2021 Official MLB ST Pump Thread - Page 36

premium1981 · 03-25-2021, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

But writing a guy like Robert off after a half season is ridiculous.

Please quote me saying I have written off Luis Robert. You keep assuming things. I actually believe he will be solid, and even be an All Star some years. My point was that he isn't Andruw Jones. That is literally the only point I was making.

The_Reverend · 03-25-2021, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BDavis317

Austin Riley with 2 massive homers today. Those poor baseballs.

So I guess sending this throw in card in a sub was a good idea.

Zauron · 03-25-2021, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

The last 6 years of his career Andruw Jones wasn’t Andruw Jones. His career died quickly after leaving ATL. That’s not a half argument. Great players don’t fade that many years. Yea defensive awards are great, and 10 straight is incredible. But writing a guy like Robert off after a half season is ridiculous.

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Again, I'm not writing Robert off. I am simply stating I truly believe he isn't going to be a .300/.400/.550 slash guy like his pricing is.

There is nothing wrong with slashing .250/.330/.500 with his defense. That's a great player, but of course people investing in him don't want that. They want the hype slash line.

The strikeout totals have been there his whole career so far as well, since he started in 2018. This spring he is striking out at a 29% plate appearance clip.

Last year, it was 32.4%

2019, he hovered as a whole around 24%

2018 was 25%

Now the minor league K rate isn't extremely awful, but it shows he is going to strike out a lot. Naturally it jumps when he advanced to major league pitching. It's not a huge concern if everything else falls into place for his hitting, because Ronald Acuna is in a similar boat. However, Acuna is at least drawing walks now, has a lot more power at the moment.

If Robert can learn to work the counts, sure he can be a whole lot better, and that may happen. However, it takes batters sometimes a long time to mature into that. Steroids aside, it took Sammy Sosa nearly 6/7 seasons before he started to draw more walks.

Getting on base is crucial to success, it's one reason I prefer Soto over Acuna and Tatis, because I feel he's going to get on base more often than either of those two. Heck, in the World Series vs the Astros, it was Soto drawing a walk that forced Greinke out and led to Howie Kendrick's monster 2 run homerun.

shortstopguy12 · 03-25-2021, 09:51 AM

Yes.. Pump him up!

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Originally Posted by PumpnDumpling

Mondesi went 1-2 today with a Triple and a walk, i'm almost more excited for the bb than the 3B

Coach Ditka · 03-25-2021, 09:53 AM

Opening Day is ONE week from today!

premium1981 · 03-25-2021, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Ditka

Opening Day is ONE week from today!

OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

base set · 03-25-2021, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

I’m ready for Spring Training to be over and get some real baseball going...

Yeah the last week of ST is the toughest. Just the regular line-ups mostly dialing in their swing. I’m glad my team doesn’t even have an MLB.com broadcast today.

How about the spring for Steven Matz; 4th start today. Watch out Evil Empire.

And Matt Joyce - 3rd calendar decade in the game, played his way right into Opening Day it looks like. Early on I thought Moniak would finally make it, dunno what happened there.

crpav · 03-25-2021, 12:13 PM

Well the ship is sunk for dumb Eloy...

NYRE2PECT · 03-25-2021, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crpav

Well the ship is sunk for dumb Eloy...

Why would you hang on like that!? Ooof.

letsgocapitals · 03-25-2021, 12:54 PM

Duquette saying possibly 5-6 months with a torn pec.

Rememberthepast · 03-25-2021, 03:12 PM

Ohtani goes oppo

shortstopguy12 · 03-25-2021, 03:44 PM

Mondesi with a HR...

ClevelandIC · 03-25-2021, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rememberthepast

Ohtani goes oppo

If he shows a little life in season his stuff may see the biggest percentage increase in baseball this year. Stonks.

LVDan · 03-25-2021, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandIC

If he shows a little life in season his stuff may see the biggest percentage increase in baseball this year. Stonks.

If I were Maddon I'd probably ask him if we can just s-can the pitching for a bit and bring daddy 40/100, ok?

noaskiecards · 03-25-2021, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by letsgocapitals

Duquette saying possibly 5-6 months with a torn pec.

Does Andrew Vaughn make the team?

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Zauron · 03-25-2021, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LVDan

If I were Maddon I'd probably ask him if we can just s-can the pitching for a bit and bring daddy 40/100, ok?

People might not believe this, but if he can pitch once a week and be a reliable #3 type pitcher during those games, to go with what he's showing at the plate, he's a MVP caliber player.

It's unheard of for a guy to be able to make 15-20 starts as a pitcher and say compile a 3.80 ERA with decent WHIP, k/BB splits, etc. and then to go ahead and slash .290/.380/.550 at the plate in 500ish plate appearances?

If he actually pitches like an ace though...good gravy

I had a 2018 Chrome Update international affairs auto of him, I forget how much I sold it for, I think like $250ish, but I gotta imagine that baby is worth way more now. I sorta gave up on him with all the injuries.

Ray27Ray52 · 03-25-2021, 04:59 PM

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Does Andrew Vaughn make the team?

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Looks like it's just a formality at this point. This is in reference to the Sox having Vaughn play LF in Eloy's absence, from Rotoworld:

"La Russa added that "you’ll see him out there as much as possible" over the final stretch of exhibition games as the team attempts to find a quick solution for that position in the sudden absence of Eloy Jimenez, who could be out for the entire 2021 regular season after suffering a ruptured left pectoral on Wednesday. Vaughn was drafted as a first baseman but probably has enough athleticism at age 22 to handle a temporary move to the corner outfield. Making that transition in a week, though, might be too daunting of an ask."

LVDan · 03-25-2021, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zauron

People might not believe this, but if he can pitch once a week and be a reliable #3 type pitcher during those games, to go with what he's showing at the plate, he's a MVP caliber player.

It's unheard of for a guy to be able to make 15-20 starts as a pitcher and say compile a 3.80 ERA with decent WHIP, k/BB splits, etc. and then to go ahead and slash .290/.380/.550 at the plate in 500ish plate appearances?

If he actually pitches like an ace though...good gravy

I had a 2018 Chrome Update international affairs auto of him, I forget how much I sold it for, I think like $250ish, but I gotta imagine that baby is worth way more now. I sorta gave up on him with all the injuries.

No doubt that would be awesome. I just have a tremendous amount of respect for those 2 skills at a world class level that makes me believe that while not impossible, attempting to balance the two could sabotage both. What I'm seeing now is a very dangerous young man just killing the ball like NO ONE ELSE in any camp. Id want to protect it like (Farley) Tommy Callahan protected his precious sale.
Im rooting for both but the stick is giant right now.

boxbuster7 · 03-25-2021, 05:22 PM

Chris Owings with multiple HR today...wait not sure I'm doing this right

noaskiecards · 03-25-2021, 05:36 PM

Aaron judge with his first spring homer

Now if yordan could hit

My only hope is yordan was bad in 2019 spring training.... hit 50 homers

Bad in 2020 spring training, hit a homer right away before injury

He's hopefully just testing out some stuff, plus he's rusty, good time to get the crappy stats out of the way

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crpav · 03-25-2021, 05:43 PM

Wait, Julio Rodriguez is "raking" this spring? So how much time manipulation we talking here because I think he should just make the MLB team.

LVDan · 03-25-2021, 06:34 PM

Garrett Cooper is having a very good spring, just homered. Not having the DH this year really blows for his playing time. They gotta figure out how to get him ABs somehow.

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noaskiecards · 03-25-2021, 06:34 PM

Alvarez rbi double

1 for 2 with a walk

Our boys finding that beautiful swing

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callou2131 · 03-25-2021, 06:53 PM

Austin hays, so far 2 for 3 with a triple and a homer plus an outfield put out, mountcastle 2 for 3 with a homer

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