What do you do with your Zion cards?

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

somehow i never had zion cards

Originally Posted by sethc1020

We didn't either until going into year 3 I think, prices had come down already due to injuries. I thought for sure going into year 3 healthy there would be some upside but just more of the same and downward spiral. What can you do?

I should have stuck with my gut, I was one of the few that was saying Zion wasn't a generational talent that should be demanding the Insane money before even playing a game back in 2019. I was basically crucified by the BO investa mob back then. lol

I just don't seem to have cards of players who don't have things like award share or all-league selections much less playoff success

It's kinda my shtick

I did just pick up my 2nd Luka card since he's kinda tearing things up at age . . . did he turn 25 yet? It's the only card I could find in tcdb where he's doing his patented stepback (& the silver prizm parallel)

up to 3 cheapo Shai Gregious cards (Essentials RC, '21 Elite, '21 Origins). no Ant Edwards cards yet. No Wemby. Never had a Ja or Zion card.

in terms of sheer number of cards I'm up to like 50 or so Timmy Fundamental cards (considerably more than the number of my MJ or Mr Russell ones by now), they're a clecter's dream price-per-unit-wise. on libertarian but not compatibilist free will grounds, I coulda had maybe 1 or 2 Wemby cards like his Prizm with his stick figure with lots of empty space on each side and barely able to make out his face, on compatibilist free will grounds it would have been some bizarre exercise in doing what was unlikely to increase my ex post utility (or it would now make me invested in Wemby so I care more about his 5x5 feats). or do we even have free will or are we forever bogged down in semantics
(ftr I think there's libertarian free will emergent from complexly-organized-enough systems, we don't require a concept of "laws of nature" precluding that, let's not be consumed by scientism here amiright?)

to make all that topical: was it inevitable that ZW ended up with soda bottles in the bathroom (according to that crazy hookup lady with the robust backside)

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

I did just pick up my 2nd Luka card since he's kinda tearing things up at age . . . did he turn 25 yet? It's the only card I could find in tcdb where he's doing his patented stepback (& the silver prizm parallel)

up to 3 cheapo Shai Gregious cards

Speaking of Luka and Shai …….
2018 Wax has RC’s of Luka, SGA and Trae, and is still fairly reasonably priced

[rynobot]

Picked up my first Zion prizm rc for $10 last month. Seemed fair for a borderline all-star. :haha:

[onenonly0]

Seems like he is gaining a little bit of hype now (nothing compared to his rookie year). Just sold some of his slabs on ebay.

And I maybe did something very stupid. I just bought his Contenders Auto. lol. I thought it was a good price and had a room to grow in the future. I could’ve gotten fooled for twice but couldn’t resist. Haha.


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[h00perstar34]

Deep run in the playoffs and championships will help. Heck, it took Lebron 7 years to get one. His chrome rookies sold for $28 in summer of 2010, I remember because I sold 2 at that price dirt cheap.

Moral of the story, don’t be me!

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by h00perstar34

Deep run in the playoffs and championships will help. Heck, it took Lebron 7 years to get one. His chrome rookies sold for $28 in summer of 2010, I remember because I sold 2 at that price dirt cheap.

Moral of the story, don’t be me!

There are 0 similarities between LeBron and Zion as players and their respective card markets

[h00perstar34]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

There are 0 similarities between LeBron and Zion as players and their respective card markets

False. Both had a ton of card hype #1/2 respectively in the past 20 years of the Market (before Wemby). Their games aren’t the same, but Zion partly fueled the covid craziness.

Obviously not saying Zion is close to Lebrons talent, but more playoff exposure will 100% revitalize his market if he plays well. To how much of an extent we will have to wait and see, if it happens.

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[90skid]

I sold two Zion's yesterday and was glad to do so. Out the mail they go!

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by h00perstar34

False. Both had a ton of card hype #1/2 respectively in the past 20 years of the Market (before Wemby). Their games aren’t the same, but Zion partly fueled the covid craziness.

Obviously not saying Zion is close to Lebrons talent, but more playoff exposure will 100% revitalize his market if he plays well. To how much of an extent we will have to wait and see, if it happens.

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a gazillion players had a ton of hype, but the hobby in 2004 was literally nothing like the hobby in 2020.

0 similarities, and no Zion didn't fuel covid craziness, the trillions in helicopter money did.

[h00perstar34]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

a gazillion players had a ton of hype, but the hobby in 2004 was literally nothing like the hobby in 2020.

0 similarities, and no Zion didn't fuel covid craziness, the trillions in helicopter money did.

True 2004 was nothing like 2020 market wise, but that’s it. Zion was absolutely without a doubt the most hyped player since Lebron, with a ton more people (and money) in the hobby.


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[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by h00perstar34

True 2004 was nothing like 2020 market wise, but that’s it. Zion was absolutely without a doubt the most hyped player since Lebron, with a ton more people in the hobby.


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They say that every other year. "x player is the most hyped since lebron". This year it was Wemby, in a few years it'll be someone else.

[jcardstore]

If you bought Zion during Covid, you're never gonna make your money back. If you bought Zion this offseason, I haven't looked but you might be in the black or close to it.

If you're buying Zion now and they don't make a deep run, you're probably going to lose money

[h00perstar34]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

They say that every other year. "x player is the most hyped since lebron". This year it was Wemby, in a few years it'll be someone else.

Hype yes, but not to Zions level.
Wemby is something we’ve never seen before

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[h00perstar34]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

If you bought Zion during Covid, you're never gonna make your money back. If you bought Zion this offseason, I haven't looked but you might be in the black or close to it.

If you're buying Zion now and they don't make a deep run, you're probably going to lose money

But if you buy Zion now you likely have a 3-4 year window before you lose a ton.

I do agree if you bought during Covid 99% chance you never see that again.


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[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by h00perstar34

But if you buy Zion now you likely have a 3-4 year window before you lose a ton.

I do agree if you bought during Covid 99% chance you never see that again.


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Unless Zion decides he really does care about being a true NBA star, I don't see how you're gonna make money.

Zion is the kind of guy who could be so much better than he is if he just decided he wants to care about playing on both ends of the floor and evolving his game.

He's never changed his game and despite being one of the most dominant post players, maybe ever, he's never done anything past that.

Has he become a better passer marginally? Sure, but that's not going to elevate you to stardom.

[h00perstar34]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Unless Zion decides he really does care about being a true NBA star, I don't see how you're gonna make money.

Zion is the kind of guy who could be so much better than he is if he just decided he wants to care about playing on both ends of the floor and evolving his game.

He's never changed his game and despite being one of the most dominant post players, maybe ever, he's never done anything past that.

Has he become a better passer marginally? Sure, but that's not going to elevate you to stardom.

I think this run and next year will be very telling. Team is getting better and can become a legit contender if he wants to take that leap. West is tough, will be all that much more impressive if he ever decides he wants to dominate in the playoffs.


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[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by h00perstar34

I think this run and next year will be very telling. Team is getting better and can become a legit contender if he wants to take that leap. West is tough, will be all that much more impressive if he ever decides he wants to dominate in the playoffs.


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A deep run will change some minds for sure.

I don't think this team is a contender without a PG. When it comes down to half court offense, CJ running point ain't gonna cut it.

Non-shooting 4-5 aint gonna cut it.

They seem locked into a good first round matchup but past that it seems tough

[h00perstar34]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

A deep run will change some minds for sure.

I don't think this team is a contender without a PG. When it comes down to half court offense, CJ running point ain't gonna cut it.

Non-shooting 4-5 aint gonna cut it.

They seem locked into a good first round matchup but past that it seems tough

They’re not out of the woods yet for the play in. 10 of last 12 games are against playoff caliber teams. Might slip to 6 or even as far as 8 still.

[mbrahv1984]

Originally Posted by h00perstar34

False. Both had a ton of card hype #1/2 respectively in the past 20 years of the Market (before Wemby). Their games aren’t the same, but Zion partly fueled the covid craziness.

Obviously not saying Zion is close to Lebrons talent, but more playoff exposure will 100% revitalize his market if he plays well. To how much of an extent we will have to wait and see, if it happens.

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It's NOT false. The hobby was entirely different back then, it's like comparing apples and orangutans. Literally incomparable times in the hobby. The hype beast/investor bros (thanks Gary Vee) made sure of that. That being said the hobby is starting to normalize..a bit.

[h00perstar34]

Originally Posted by mbrahv1984

It's NOT false. The hobby was entirely different back then, it's like comparing apples and orangutans. Literally incomparable times in the hobby.

2019 Zion hype was false? Lol ok


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[MavsRChamps]

It's not even about hype or Zion's play - In my opinion it's just the fact Panini printed SO MANY cards starting his rookie year. So much to choose from & practically 80%+ of people who have Zion cards or buy Zion cards don't even collect them ... they're just looking to sell it more to the next person. It's the same reason a lot of Rookies 2019-2021 have fallen in price. Supply is just so great. Personally, time's now to sell too since Pelicans playing well and there's some hype for playoff run. With how tough the West is, odds are very unlikely they make deep run so play the odds and sell.

[h00perstar34]

Originally Posted by MavsRChamps

It's not even about hype or Zion's play - In my opinion it's just the fact Panini printed SO MANY cards starting his rookie year. So much to choose from & practically 80%+ of people who have Zion cards or buy Zion cards don't even collect them ... they're just looking to sell it more to the next person. It's the same reason a lot of Rookies 2019-2021 have fallen in price. Supply is just so great. Personally, time's now to sell too since Pelicans playing well and there's some hype for playoff run. With how tough the West is, odds are very unlikely they make deep run so play the odds and sell.

It’s more about seeing promise and progress. If he plays well in playoffs and they lose in 6 or 7 in second round, it will be a good lead up to prices bumping a bit for next year.


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[ninjacookies]

Nobody's going to see Covid peaks again for any card of any player. Let's not make this a BBW specific issue.


That said, he cratered as much if not more than any other star/semi-star since that stretch for obvious reasons.

Majority of his bass and mid end are so low relatively to his skill level and potential - but the apprehension will still exist due to the health concerns. Plus we have yet to see if he'll ever make that leap into All-NBA territory. He's certainly young enough to get there, but the dedication and desire has to be there.


Tanzanite hands never fold. Besides, his dime bass rate of decay makes TopShot .gifs look like a walk through Skid Row.

'Grats to all my chubby chasing prognosticators.

[boxbuster7]

I don't even get offers on my select white psa 10 /149 - gonna just jack up the price and pray every night he stays healthy

[Nomad]

I do remember wondering what exactly was life altering about Zion at the time. Not like is is nine feet tall, which is what it takes these days.