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Old 02-14-2023, 04:18 PM   #976
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Best I can tell doing my redneck math
2022 Series 1 108,833 hobby boxes made
2023 Series 1 149,583 hobby boxes made

2022 Series 1 62,056 Jumbo Hobby Boxes made
2023 Series 1 120,550 Jumbo Hobby Boxes made
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:21 PM   #977
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SSP Ohtani on ebay for $800???
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:22 PM   #978
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:24 PM   #979
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Congrats on the pull
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:27 PM   #980
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I’m still waiting for my BO shipping notice too
I am also still waiting.
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:30 PM   #981
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SSP Ohtani on ebay for $800???
sounds about in line with any of the top name guys. If it was graded PSA 10 I'd guess $1500 +


The Ohtani is a sweet looking card also in that retro looking uniform.
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:33 PM   #982
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sounds about in line with any of the top name guys. If it was graded PSA 10 I'd guess $1500 +


The Ohtani is a sweet looking card also in that retro looking uniform.
Ah so there is the seller
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:35 PM   #983
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:36 PM   #984
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:38 PM   #985
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Best I can tell doing my redneck math
2022 Series 1 108,833 hobby boxes made
2023 Series 1 149,583 hobby boxes made

2022 Series 1 62,056 Jumbo Hobby Boxes made
2023 Series 1 120,550 Jumbo Hobby Boxes made
2023: Agree with you on hobby boxes based on clear pack odds (3,590,000 packs). Disagree on Jumbo.

Black /72 is a hobby/jumbo exclusive - 72 * 330 = 23,760 total. Hobby packs = 3,590,000, odds are 1:262, so 3,590,000/262 = 13,702 black in hobby packs. That leaves 10,058 for jumbo packs, at 1:80 odds, which means ~804,617 jumbo packs at 10/box = 80,462 boxes.


2022: Agree on both your counts (using the same methodology as I did for 2023).
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:43 PM   #986
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Best I can tell doing my redneck math
2022 Series 1 108,833 hobby boxes made
2023 Series 1 149,583 hobby boxes made

2022 Series 1 62,056 Jumbo Hobby Boxes made
2023 Series 1 120,550 Jumbo Hobby Boxes made
I thought 2023 had a lower print run the 2022 ?
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:48 PM   #987
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SSP Ohtani on ebay for $800???
I can't be the only one who gets Sleepaway Camp vibes from that Ohtani card...?
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:51 PM   #988
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2023: Agree with you on hobby boxes based on clear pack odds (3,590,000 packs). Disagree on Jumbo.

Black /72 is a hobby/jumbo exclusive - 72 * 330 = 23,760 total. Hobby packs = 3,590,000, odds are 1:262, so 3,590,000/262 = 13,702 black in hobby packs. That leaves 10,058 for jumbo packs, at 1:80 odds, which means ~804,617 jumbo packs at 10/box = 80,462 boxes.


2022: Agree on both your counts (using the same methodology as I did for 2023).
I reversed my numbers for black in hobby versus jumbo. plus I calculated based off black being /71 not /72, but your math checks out better than mine.
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I reversed my numbers for black in hobby versus jumbo. plus I calculated based off black being /71 not /72, but your math checks out better than mine.
Gotcha, that makes sense!


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Old 02-14-2023, 04:54 PM   #990
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I thought 2023 had a lower print run the 2022 ?
Math checks out on the Hobby, but Jumbo looks off to me.

edit: Just saw rons follow up.
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Print runs might still be lower because of retail. I have a feeling this will be a major trend with fanatics. It sounds like they are really going all in on the breaker side of things (even creating their own breaking platform) and I think we see retail side continue to fade (for better or worse).
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:59 PM   #992
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Print runs might still be lower because of retail. I have a feeling this will be a major trend with fanatics. It sounds like they are really going all in on the breaker side of things (even creating their own breaking platform) and I think we see retail side continue to fade (for better or worse).
Maybe Fanatics listened to us after they dropped the ball with 2022 TCU.

Maybe hobby (and jumbo) configurations will actually (as they should) be better than retail configurations!!
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Old 02-14-2023, 05:07 PM   #993
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Maybe Fanatics listened to us after they dropped the ball with 2022 TCU.

Maybe hobby (and jumbo) configurations will actually (as they should) be better than retail configurations!!
yes have to feed the breakers!
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Old 02-14-2023, 05:12 PM   #995
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Old 02-14-2023, 05:16 PM   #996
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yes have to feed the breakers!
Man, they have to feed us (who prefer hobby configurations) too!
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Old 02-14-2023, 05:26 PM   #998
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$85/$155 at my suburban Chicago LCS
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Old 02-14-2023, 05:30 PM   #999
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Which one is that? Wondering if we go to the same shop...
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Old 02-14-2023, 05:30 PM   #1000
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I assume these are pre-tax prices. Your LCS is taxing.

I purchased a sealed jumbo case from a random online seller for $875 ($145.83 per, no tax involved) shipped. I received a couple other quotes in the $885-$900 ($900 would be $150 per). I only spent 30-60 minutes searching/communicating with random online sellers too. In other words, I probably could've found a better deal had I searched longer.

Just buy online. You might wait a couple more days but you'll save some money and get much better deals.
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