Fernando Tatis Jr - Page 459

anusinha · 08-01-2021, 10:39 AM

Depends on what you consider juicing. Something like 80% of the NFL has a therapeutic expemtion to take amphetamines for ADD.

k13 · 08-01-2021, 10:43 AM

Tell me how an NFL LB/RB passes a test?

If they can pass a test anyone can.
Therefore testing is a joke.

jhssketchcards · 08-01-2021, 10:43 AM

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He's 220lbs +....

What are you talking about?

Guy before said he’s listed at 215… he gained 5 lbs since that post so yep, he’s juicing.

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k13 · 08-01-2021, 10:47 AM

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Depends on what you consider juicing. Something like 80% of the NFL has a therapeutic expemtion to take amphetamines for ADD.

There's like 40 different steroids.
So each sport/position would find the best suitable one for their needs.

Only the dumb/careless get caught or in political motives for the league.

Even punters have been caught on steroids "lists".

k13 · 08-01-2021, 10:48 AM

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Guy before said he’s listed at 215… he gained 5 lbs since that post so yep, he’s juicing.

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210-220...all the same but not 130...

Chris P · 08-01-2021, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

There's like 40 different steroids.
So each sport/position would find the best suitable one for their needs.

Only the dumb/careless get caught or in political motives for the league.

Even punters have been caught on steroids "lists".

Damn you're so knowledgable..i hope you never fully expose the fraud so us dumb fans can continue to enjoy sports in ignorance!

jhssketchcards · 08-01-2021, 10:54 AM

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210-220...all the same but not 130...

Yeah because websites never lie about players stats

Here’s Jeter in 2000… 6’3” 195

Tatis 6’3”220

I know inflation is going on but there is no way Tatis is really 220lbs.

For the record I don’t think he’s really on the juice but I certainly do not believe he’s 220lbs.

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BGeezy · 08-01-2021, 10:58 AM

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99% of athletes are.

If you think "tests" me something then you are beyond gullible.
The NFL is beyond steroids yet almost no one tests positive.

Do you trust these tests?

Read about injuries and steroids.

Why do you think there's so many hamstring injuries...

"fans" are so dumb. They really want to believe their heros are clean and their villains were dirty. When there's money involved everything is dirty.

Kids in HS are all juiced up yet the pros are clean lol

marl1220 · 08-01-2021, 12:06 PM

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Too late.

ewokpelts · 08-01-2021, 12:15 PM

how many times will this guy get the same injury in the same season?

pewe · 08-01-2021, 12:21 PM

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how many times will this guy get the same injury in the same season?

My understanding is that once you’ve had one, it becomes easy to happen again… so guessing the answer is “unfortunately many times”

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hermanotarjeta · 08-01-2021, 12:45 PM

How many more years of long-term damage are the Padres going to do to his career by delaying his surgery just for the sake of this year's playoff run? One scrappy year at the expense of 5-10 more years of maximum production?

Each time that joint falls out, new areas of inflammation and scarring are happening. This may even threaten his surgical recovery and long-term stability the more they delay.

Padres management needs to be seriously questioned if they allow him to play again this season. How are they going to spin, at this rate, 2-3 more shoulder dislocations for the rest of the season?

moosetequila · 08-01-2021, 12:53 PM

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How many more years of long-term damage are the Padres going to do to his career by delaying his surgery just for the sake of this year's playoff run? One scrappy year at the expense of 5-10 more years of maximum production?

Each time that joint falls out, new areas of inflammation and scarring are happening. This may even threaten his surgical recovery and long-term stability the more they delay.

Padres management needs to be seriously questioned if they allow him to play again this season. How are they going to spin, at this rate, 2-3 more shoulder dislocations for the rest of the season?

Yup, my right shoulder will no longer sit in the socket, and the socket is chipped and arthritic. Range of motion is FUBAR...

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hermanotarjeta · 08-01-2021, 12:57 PM

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Yup, my right shoulder will no longer sit in the socket, and the socket is chipped and arthritic. Range of motion is FUBAR...

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Man, sorry to hear about that.

If the Padres only care about winning right now and are totally disregarding the long-term health of their players, they will find a way to get him on the field.

And sure, maybe, it won't affect Tatis in the next year or two, but what about down the line? When he is getting ready for another big contract, but he can't perform well anymore due to chronic arthritis and joint issues. Or the Padres are stuck with a debilitated Tatis for years.

Sacrifice the short term for Tatis' long-term health.

Taking him out will be a great way to admit that the Giants and Dodgers beat them at the trade deadline.

Then again, the Padres will always be the Padres..................

cloakroom · 08-01-2021, 01:01 PM

season ending surgery is "on the table"

jhssketchcards · 08-01-2021, 02:44 PM

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season ending surgery is "on the table"

And unfortunately MVP ending surgery

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hermanotarjeta · 08-01-2021, 03:00 PM

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And unfortunately MVP ending surgery

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Who else is left who has a chance to pull it off?

Soto?

JRX · 08-01-2021, 03:00 PM

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And unfortunately MVP ending surgery

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He could still get it even if he's done for the year. The other leaders in War among pos players are Acuna, and 3 dodgers (Muncy, Trea, Taylor). With DeGrom out, he probably won't get it either. Maybe they should just give both to guys in the AL.

jhssketchcards · 08-01-2021, 03:06 PM

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He could still get it even if he's done for the year. The other leaders in War among pos players are Acuna, and 3 dodgers (Muncy, Trea, Taylor). With DeGrom out, he probably won't get it either. Maybe they should just give both to guys in the AL.

I think if his season ended in late August yes, but not now. Writers are funny. Trout won after missing some of the end of the season so it is possible. If Soto comes alive and has a nice end of the year streak he could get it, but don’t think they’d give it to Muncy. Sucks that both he and deGrom were tracking towards the awards but now both are derailed. Worst thing they can do is keep injecting it and getting through the season. It’s not worth it. More damage can be done and jeopardize Tatis long term.

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JRX · 08-01-2021, 03:20 PM

I didn't realize he only played 88 games, so that's probably not possible. It could end up being Trea Turner. Maybe Machado gets hot. Will be quite a race if Tatis doesn't play.

NoWhammys2021 · 08-01-2021, 03:24 PM

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Who else is left who has a chance to pull it off?

Soto?

Nats would have to actually do something with their season

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cloakroom · 08-01-2021, 03:36 PM

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I didn't realize he only played 88 games, so that's probably not possible. It could end up being Trea Turner. Maybe Machado gets hot. Will be quite a race if Tatis doesn't play.

Machado has been hot and if keeps playing like this until the end of the year, it might actually be him. I'd say Trea is in driver's seat for now. I don't know how the Padres could have much confidence internally after the last week. Shutting Tatis down is starting to make a lot of sense.

SupermanBrandon · 08-01-2021, 04:18 PM

I see that the BO Doctors out today. They are usually right on the money with every diagnosis.

pewe · 08-01-2021, 07:27 PM

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I see that the BO Doctors out today. They are usually right on the money with every diagnosis.

Efficient as they get 1st, 2nd, and 3rd opinions all at once!!!

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Tim · 08-01-2021, 07:37 PM

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Who else is left who has a chance to pull it off?

Soto?

Big longshot but if Votto remains hot and the Reds somehow get the wildcard over San Diego, Votto will win MVP. but as I said it's a longshot.

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anusinha Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,499	Depends on what you consider juicing. Something like 80% of the NFL has a therapeutic expemtion to take amphetamines for ADD.

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k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Tell me how an NFL LB/RB passes a test? If they can pass a test anyone can. Therefore testing is a joke.

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ewokpelts Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Evergreen Park, IL Posts: 3,997 asg2003ws2005	how many times will this guy get the same injury in the same season?

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hermanotarjeta Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 20,884	How many more years of long-term damage are the Padres going to do to his career by delaying his surgery just for the sake of this year's playoff run? One scrappy year at the expense of 5-10 more years of maximum production? Each time that joint falls out, new areas of inflammation and scarring are happening. This may even threaten his surgical recovery and long-term stability the more they delay. Padres management needs to be seriously questioned if they allow him to play again this season. How are they going to spin, at this rate, 2-3 more shoulder dislocations for the rest of the season?

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cloakroom Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 322	season ending surgery is "on the table"

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JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,531	I didn't realize he only played 88 games, so that's probably not possible. It could end up being Trea Turner. Maybe Machado gets hot. Will be quite a race if Tatis doesn't play.

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SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	I see that the BO Doctors out today. They are usually right on the money with every diagnosis.