***The Official New York Yankees Thread***

[spuds1961]

What’s funny is Boone parlayed that 2003 series winning home run against the Red Sox into 6 years of managing the Yankees. In hindsight since they didn’t win the World Series in 2003 anyway it kind of makes me wish Boston won in 2003 instead of 2004. I wonder if they would’ve beaten the Marlins that year and how future history would’ve played out.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

I wish just once Boone would throw someone under the bus, just say his play has sucked lately and if it continues he will either be benched or released.

See my post above about Boone being perfect for politics. He simply can't do what you and the rest of the fan base ask. There is no calling out of players who sucks by him. He'd rather be their friend than their boss.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

What’s funny is Boone parlayed that 2003 series winning home run against the Red Sox into 6 years of managing the Yankees. In hindsight since they didn’t win the World Series in 2003 anyway it kind of makes me wish Boston won in 2003 instead of 2004. I wonder if they would’ve beaten the Marlins that year and how future history would’ve played out.

So many great Yankees past players who could manage the team (some of them with managers experience) and we get this loser year in and year out.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

So many great Yankees past players who could manage the team (some of them with managers experience) and we get this loser year in and year out.

I know most of us fans were screaming for Mattingly and Willie Randolph. I never thought Boone was the right choice but I was willing to give him a chance. The Boone experiment should’ve stopped after 2020 and definitely after 2021. I still think with a different manager they would’ve won a World Series between 2018 and now.

[Mandy1320]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

I wish just once Boone would throw someone under the bus, just say his play has sucked lately and if it continues he will either be benched or released.

If anything gets Boone fired, it would be this. The Yankees as an organization are becoming more and more apparent with how they like to control the narrative and perception of the team.

I think we can all agree that the Yankee fanbase as a whole is a little more doom and gloom than a vast majority of the other fanbases around the league. So naturally, the Yankees PR has to combat that and keep the 'vibes' positive no matter where they are record-wise. Hicks and Donaldson's poor play are good examples of this but what really made me open my eyes recently is Judge.

First, it was no news and 'we have to wait for the swelling to go down'... then it was a sprain.....then it was ANOTHER sprain, but oh he's feeling better and it doesn't hurt to walk....then it was he's doing "balance exercises" in the pool which is signaling the start of his return. All of these updates came from within the organization.

Now comes the bombshell when beat reporters decided to ask Judge himself who revealed that it's a torn ligament and it still hurts to walk; not sure when he could be back.

So, Yankees PR wants me to believe that everything is fine and Judge will be back soon, when in reality, there's a chance he could require surgery and be done for the season. Then you add on Hal's and Cashman's comments recently that take shots at the PAYING CUSTOMERS for not being grateful and we have a full blown conspiracy that has me believe that the Yankees invest more into PR than they do on the end product.

So if Boone talks ill of any player, even if it's more along the lines of constructive criticism, he could face repercussions from higher up. I firmly believe that he was explicitly told to never EVER talk negatively about a player.

TL;DR Boone will never talk bad about a player no matter what because the Yankees want to control the narrative and pretend like everything is okay.

[larry25]

Originally Posted by Mandy1320

If anything gets Boone fired, it would be this. The Yankees as an organization are becoming more and more apparent with how they like to control the narrative and perception of the team.

I think we can all agree that the Yankee fanbase as a whole is a little more doom and gloom than a vast majority of the other fanbases around the league. So naturally, the Yankees PR has to combat that and keep the 'vibes' positive no matter where they are record-wise. Hicks and Donaldson's poor play are good examples of this but what really made me open my eyes recently is Judge.

First, it was no news and 'we have to wait for the swelling to go down'... then it was a sprain.....then it was ANOTHER sprain, but oh he's feeling better and it doesn't hurt to walk....then it was he's doing "balance exercises" in the pool which is signaling the start of his return. All of these updates came from within the organization.

Now comes the bombshell when beat reporters decided to ask Judge himself who revealed that it's a torn ligament and it still hurts to walk; not sure when he could be back.

So, Yankees PR wants me to believe that everything is fine and Judge will be back soon, when in reality, there's a chance he could require surgery and be done for the season. Then you add on Hal's and Cashman's comments recently that take shots at the PAYING CUSTOMERS for not being grateful and we have a full blown conspiracy that has me believe that the Yankees invest more into PR than they do on the end product.

So if Boone talks ill of any player, even if it's more along the lines of constructive criticism, he could face repercussions from higher up. I firmly believe that he was explicitly told to never EVER talk negatively about a player.

TL;DR Boone will never talk bad about a player no matter what because the Yankees want to control the narrative and pretend like everything is okay.

FYI, a torn ligament is a sprain.

[Mandy1320]

Originally Posted by larry25

FYI, a torn ligament is a sprain.

Yes, i know. But there's still a difference in the diagnosis. Sprain is a very small tear that simply requires a couple weeks of rest.

If you are diagnosed with a torn ligament, as Judge pretty much said, that is different. Now you go from a couple weeks to a couple months and maybe surgery if it doesn't heal as expected.

[spuds1961]

Mandy I just think upper management from Hal to Cashman doesn’t have a clue. I had typed a much longer response but I hit a wrong button and it disappeared. As far as Judge they should’ve just said they didn’t have an informative answer and left it at that.

[Mandy1320]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

Mandy I just think upper management from Hal to Cashman doesn’t have a clue. I had typed a much longer response but I hit a wrong button and it disappeared. As far as Judge they should’ve just said they didn’t have an informative answer and left it at that.

Yea that would've been a better move than what they've done. But, they know that if they constantly push the message that "everything is fine", then people will keep coming to the park and watch on TV.

That's all that matters to them.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by Mandy1320

If anything gets Boone fired, it would be this. The Yankees as an organization are becoming more and more apparent with how they like to control the narrative and perception of the team.

I think we can all agree that the Yankee fanbase as a whole is a little more doom and gloom than a vast majority of the other fanbases around the league. So naturally, the Yankees PR has to combat that and keep the 'vibes' positive no matter where they are record-wise. Hicks and Donaldson's poor play are good examples of this but what really made me open my eyes recently is Judge.

First, it was no news and 'we have to wait for the swelling to go down'... then it was a sprain.....then it was ANOTHER sprain, but oh he's feeling better and it doesn't hurt to walk....then it was he's doing "balance exercises" in the pool which is signaling the start of his return. All of these updates came from within the organization.

Now comes the bombshell when beat reporters decided to ask Judge himself who revealed that it's a torn ligament and it still hurts to walk; not sure when he could be back.

So, Yankees PR wants me to believe that everything is fine and Judge will be back soon, when in reality, there's a chance he could require surgery and be done for the season. Then you add on Hal's and Cashman's comments recently that take shots at the PAYING CUSTOMERS for not being grateful and we have a full blown conspiracy that has me believe that the Yankees invest more into PR than they do on the end product.

So if Boone talks ill of any player, even if it's more along the lines of constructive criticism, he could face repercussions from higher up. I firmly believe that he was explicitly told to never EVER talk negatively about a player.

TL;DR Boone will never talk bad about a player no matter what because the Yankees want to control the narrative and pretend like everything is okay.

The whole Judge injury and how they've trickled out little to no information reminds me of how the NFL is so secretive during the week on the status of players that may or may not be injured. It's been ridiculous!

The whole culture of management of this team sucks. Are they now woke and can't say anything negative about the horrible play of a member of the team to make up for the fact that George used to do it on a daily basis?

[fulltritty]

I hate to say it as I hated his massive binders of analytics in choosing what relief pitcher to bring in, but I'd rather see Girardi in that dugout managing than Boone.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

I hate to say it as I hated his massive binders of analytics in choosing what relief pitcher to bring in, but I'd rather see Girardi in that dugout managing than Boone.

If they would’ve stayed the course I believe Girardi would’ve won a World Series by now. He almost beat an Astros team that was caught cheating and not punished severely enough in my eyes. Girardi might not have been a good fit in Philadelphia but he was fine with the Yankees., to think he got fired after taking the Yankees to game 7 of the ALCS because he failed to challenge a play but yet we have had Boone for 6 years with all his screw ups.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

If they would’ve stayed the course I believe Girardi would’ve won a World Series by now. He almost beat an Astros team that was caught cheating and not punished severely enough in my eyes. Girardi might not have been a good fit in Philadelphia but he was fine with the Yankees., to think he got fired after taking the Yankees to game 7 of the ALCS because he failed to challenge a play but yet we have had Boone for 6 years with all his screw ups.

Exactly. How Boone still has a job is beyond me. I feel like he's only good for entertainment as when he gets thrown out of the game often. He's the Yankees modern day Billy Martin, but at least Billy got fired.

[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

If they would’ve stayed the course I believe Girardi would’ve won a World Series by now. He almost beat an Astros team that was caught cheating and not punished severely enough in my eyes. Girardi might not have been a good fit in Philadelphia but he was fine with the Yankees., to think he got fired after taking the Yankees to game 7 of the ALCS because he failed to challenge a play but yet we have had Boone for 6 years with all his screw ups.

Except the team hated Girardi at the end

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[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Exactly. How Boone still has a job is beyond me. I feel like he's only good for entertainment as when he gets thrown out of the game often. He's the Yankees modern day Billy Martin, but at least Billy got fired.

Lol maybe but if he makes the playoffs and Judge misses a ton more time he gets manager of the year votes.

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[ottobord]

Originally Posted by hxcmilkshake

Except the team hated Girardi at the end

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They chose Sanchez over Girardi and Sanchez desperately needed Girardi. The baby bombers were and are babies. The sooner the remaining bunch Gleyber, Sevy, and German are out of here the better. Think of all the promising young players that just fizzled here. It has to be a couple dozen.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by hxcmilkshake

Except the team hated Girardi at the end

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Might have hated him but he still had better end results than Boone.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by hxcmilkshake

Lol maybe but if he makes the playoffs and Judge misses a ton more time he gets manager of the year votes.

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Boone is probably happy Judge is out because there is less pressure on him to win. This act is getting tired though because winning enough to make the playoffs without Judge gets Boone another year. Losing with a healthy team would give us a better read as to what type of manager Boone really is.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by ottobord

They chose Sanchez over Girardi and Sanchez desperately needed Girardi. The baby bombers were and are babies. The sooner the remaining bunch Gleyber, Sevy, and German are out of here the better. Think of all the promising young players that just fizzled here. It has to be a couple dozen.

Yep they either fizzled their way off the team or like Greg Bird couldn’t stay healthy. Unfortunately it looks like that might be the case with Judge great when healthy just not healthy enough of the time.

[larry25]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

Yep they either fizzled their way off the team or like Greg Bird couldn’t stay healthy. Unfortunately it looks like that might be the case with Judge great when healthy just not healthy enough of the time.

Say what? Judge has missed like a combined 4 months in the last 6 years. How is that injury prone? What current league leader hasn't had injuries?

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by larry25

Say what? Judge has missed like a combined 4 months in the last 6 years. How is that injury prone? What current league leader hasn't had injuries?

Might not have missed a lot of time but sometimes playing unhealthy is even worse. I thought he missed more time than that if I am wrong so be it, he had the wrist which was almost 4 months in itself, the oblique which was another 2 months the joke in the Judge thread about his power shoulder after the home run derby and now the toe. Seems injury prone to me.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

Might not have missed a lot of time but sometimes playing unhealthy is even worse. I thought he missed more time than that if I am wrong so be it, he had the wrist which was almost 4 months in itself, the oblique which was another 2 months the joke in the Judge thread about his power shoulder after the home run derby and now the toe. Seems injury prone to me.

If you're going to say he's injury prone, you need to throw out the wrist injury. He was hit by a pitch; something that can happen to anyone and was not really his fault. Here's a good article on his injuries.

https://yanksgoyard.com/2021/06/11/a...story-updates/

Now Stanton is injury prone and pretty worthless when he's not on the IL.

[fulltritty]

I've always like McKinney. He reminds me of Luke Voit.

Red-hot Billy McKinney hopes he found a home with Yankees: ‘That’s the goal’

https://nypost.com/2023/06/26/red-ho...-with-yankees/

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

If you're going to say he's injury prone, you need to throw out the wrist injury. He was hit by a pitch; something that can happen to anyone and was not really his fault. Here's a good article on his injuries.

https://yanksgoyard.com/2021/06/11/a...story-updates/

Now Stanton is injury prone and pretty worthless when he's not on the IL.

I will say the wrist injury was an unlucky instance but google Judge injury timeline there are alot of things there. I was ready to concede he isn’t injured as often as I thought but after reading that I will just say there’s enough there to say I wasn’t wrong.

[hxcmilkshake]

Our new road-only 3B goes deep!

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