The Weirdly Wonderful Seneca Wallace Small Talk Chit Chat Talkin' Topics Thread

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

I haven’t seen much in the way of Girl Scouts cookies lately, I don’t know if it’s my location or that nobody I know has their Girls in the Girl Scouts. When I do see them it is usually a group of parents and girls selling them in front of Kroger.

One of my friends just posted it on Facebook so I think the sales are getting ready to start again. Like you, I'm a sucker for Tagalongs.

[Saraste]

Originally Posted by jplarson

As far as "Virtue Signaling" goes, I've always viewed it as someone bragging about their goodness so that attention is on them for the good thing they are doing as the primary reason and the actual cause as secondary. There's a distinction between making an announcement that hopes to inspire others to action vs an announcement of look how good I am.

Fanatics - maybe virtue signaling but reads to me more inspiring. Ymmv on that perception.
Dillo dude - so much virtue signaling it's borderline a parody.

Like corndog, I like the way you said this. I tried to say something similar. You said it much better.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by jplarson

Who let JerryNicholas in here? Caramel deLites are clearly the superior Girl Scout cookie. Fortunately my daughter is in the Girl Scouts and I'm going to be set for a long time.

You’re a lucky man, serious question how often do they have cookie sales as I haven’t seen one in awhile. We should start a poll about everyone’s favorite girls scout cookies. My top 2 are Tagalongs and Thin Mints, but I will happily eat any kind.

[Saraste]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Now this a great event.

I love it! Now that is the way to roast someone.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

One of my friends just posted it on Facebook so I think the sales are getting ready to start again. Like you, I'm a sucker for Tagalongs.

Time for me to start stalking the front of Kroger again.

[Saraste]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Here's the definition again since a few of you don't seem to know what it is.



Your examples would only be virtue signaling if you were doing them not out of respect or desire but because someone is pushing you to do it or it's a perceived moral righteousness and/or because of that push or perceived moral righteousness, you brag about doing it to get something in return or as not to fall victim to being shamed by those pushing it.

I would add to this that the person that does it does not necessarily have to agree with what they themselves are doing. They are doing it just to make themselves look "good".

[Saraste]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Isn't that the whole purpose of the "outing" sellers who put stuff online for sale after Hamlin's tragedy thread? Weren't certain people here forcing their beliefs and then shaming people who took the opposite stance? I mean it's commonplace on a lot of BO threads.

That's exactly what they are doing: attempting to "shame" people into believing what the shamers want them to believe.

[TheFrenzy]

Just from a quick google search, it looks like the barbecue controversy is from 2019.

- The woman in question was a recluse who grew her own food and liked to be left alone.

- New neighbors moved in, started grilling fish next to the fence, smoking heavily, and letting their kids play loudly in the back yard. (None of those things being illegal in Australia)

- The neighbors actually stopped barbecuing and letting their kids play in the backyard after she complained—but she still took the issue to court.

- That's when the "thousands" began registering for a meat cook out across the street. However, when most of the people who had registered found out that the neighbors in question were Vietnamese immigrants, they dropped out and only a few hundred showed up.

- The courts tossed her case out.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by Saraste

That's exactly what they are doing: attempting to "shame" people into believing what the shamers want them to believe.

We don’t know any of the sellers situations so shaming them is really unnecessary. I haven’t sold a card yet because of a person or players tragedy but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t . If I came upon hard times and really needed the money I would. Thank goodness this scenario doesn’t happen that often what’s funny is I have had a Pele Ginter no numbered mini up on eBay forever and there is still no interest in it.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Considering what occurred in this tragedy and how/who saved Hamlin, tons of donations would be better served going to the American Red Cross so they can train more people on how to perform CPR and to first responders to ensure they have the equipment (ambulances, AED, Lucas, etc.) to continue to save people's lives.

I’ll just say this, if you would have popped in the thread to just drop this nugget and leave, no one could have disagreed with you. Well said.

[Saraste]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

One of my friends just posted it on Facebook so I think the sales are getting ready to start again. Like you, I'm a sucker for Tagalongs.

In addition, I also really like Do-si-dos.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

I will tell you that first responders, military, doctors, nurses, the Josies of the world are worth more than a 1000 Hamlins!

This might be the most disappointing thing I've ever read from you.

The fact that you felt the need to make such an unnecessary comparison of the "worth" of human lives shows me that you're not in a good space for having these conversations.

(And in case it gets brought up, there was a discussion in the other thread about how death from old age doesn't produce the same level of shock and grief as the unexpected death of a young person. That was a separate and nuanced discussion. Unlike what we're seeing here.)

[Saraste]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Just from a quick google search, it looks like the barbecue controversy is from 2019.

- The woman in question was a recluse who grew her own food and liked to be left alone.

- New neighbors moved in, started grilling fish next to the fence, smoking heavily, and letting their kids play loudly in the back yard. (None of those things being illegal in Australia)

- The neighbors actually stopped barbecuing and letting their kids play in the backyard after she complained—but she still took the issue to court.

- That's when the "thousands" began registering for a meat cook out across the street. However, when most of the people who had registered found out that the neighbors in question were Vietnamese immigrants, they dropped out and only a few hundred showed up.

- The courts tossed her case out.

Stop coming in here with the real story.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by Saraste

Stop coming in here with the real story.

It makes me feel even worse for the neighbors (again, not virtue signaling here).

- Move to a new country and have your neighbor start threatening you for doing normal things in your own backyard.

- Do your best to accommodate them (even though you don't have to).

- Still get taken to court.

- Try to stay anonymous when the media attention gets hot.

- Watch the outpouring of support dry up when people find out your race/immigration status.

Life is messy.

[JosieD]

Took an actual lunch break today and got myself a new pair of shoes. They are so nice. I will not wear them to weedwhack.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

It makes me feel even worse for the neighbors (again, not virtue signaling here).

- Move to a new country and have your neighbor start threatening you for doing normal things in your own backyard.

- Do your best to accommodate them (even though you don't have to).

- Still get taken to court.

- Try to stay anonymous when the media attention gets hot.

- Watch the outpouring of support dry up when people find out your race/immigration status.



Life is messy.

Yes when people can’t decide what they are really angry about.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

This might be the most disappointing thing I've ever read from you.

The fact that you felt the need to make such an unnecessary comparison of the "worth" of human lives shows me that you're not in a good space for having these conversations.

(And in case it gets brought up, there was a discussion in the other thread about how death from old age doesn't produce the same level of shock and grief as the unexpected death of a young person. That was a separate and nuanced discussion. Unlike what we're seeing here.)

[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by bigdog2003

We had a kid suffer a knee injury in a 13u game tonight. I just heard from the coach, detached patellar tendon, surgery and 9 months of rehab.

Poor kid.

Wife works with a guy who was on a business trip in Europe and got sh1tfaced and fell in the street and detached BOTH his patellar tendons. Some how this F'er turned it into a workers comp claim

[jlzinck]

So eating a salad at this event would be virtue signaling?

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Now this a great event.

[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

I haven’t seen much in the way of Girl Scouts cookies lately, I don’t know if it’s my location or that nobody I know has their Girls in the Girl Scouts. When I do see them it is usually a group of parents and girls selling them in front of Kroger.

They came to my door on Sunday. Had no cash on me and they take venmo.

Bought my 2 boxes for the year@

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

So eating a salad at this event would be virtue signaling?

Eating a salad is always virtue signaling.

Unless it's ribbon salad.

[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Eating a salad is always virtue signaling.

Unless it's ribbon salad.

Looks up ribbon salad, throws up lunch.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

They came to my door on Sunday. Had no cash on me and they take venmo.

Bought my 2 boxes for the year@

Only people that come to my door are the mail person or Jehovah’s Witness a Girl Scout selling cookies would be a rather welcome sight.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by jlzinck

Looks up ribbon salad, throws up lunch.

Like I said, there is no virtue associated with ribbon salad.

[spuds1961]

Originally Posted by JosieD

Took an actual lunch break today and got myself a new pair of shoes. They are so nice. I will not wear them to weedwhack.

Glad you took a lunch and glad you like the shoes, always important to have shoes for weed whacking and shoes for show.