BEWARE ON EBAY .. Don't deal with AIRTRUCKER98

[steelers]

He bought a $500 plus card from me on July 12 through ebay and he received it on July 16. He left positive feedback the same day, A+ seller is what he put for feedback. Now out of nowhere, he sends a request to return the item today. The player has gone down a bit in price of course, this is in my opinion the absolute worst part about this business. It's beyond bad business, it's pathetic. Please block this buyer. There should be a 3-day period after you receive an item, where you can no longer return it. Ebay better do something about this soon, it's absolutely ridiculous what the buyer can get away with

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by steelers

He bought a $500 plus card from me on July 12 through ebay and he received it on July 16. He left positive feedback the same day, A+ seller is what he put for feedback. Now out of nowhere, he sends a request to return the item today. The player has gone down a bit in price of course, this is in my opinion the absolute worst part about this business. It's beyond bad business, it's pathetic. Please block this buyer. There should be a 3-day period after you receive an item, where you can no longer return it. Ebay better do something about this soon, it's absolutely ridiculous what the buyer can get away with

The credit card companies allow up to 6 months, so eBay can not do a quick return as they would be swamped with more Credit Card challenges than they do now.

If you allow returns, a buyer can return for any reason including finding a lower price, if you do not allow returns eBay has to allow a buyer to return if they see fit or people will get their financial institutions involved and eBay will be forced to take the returns.

Just the nature of eBay becoming a "major retailer"

[66_Fiat]

What was the card?

[steelers]

Originally Posted by 66_Fiat

What was the card?

I really don't think it matters much what card it was, a high end bowman chrome auto that sold for the going price at that time. Buyers reason for the return "changed my mind about adding to my personal collection " .. Yeah, right.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by steelers

I really don't think it matters much what card it was, a high end bowman chrome auto that sold for the going price at that time. Buyers reason for the return "changed my mind about adding to my personal collection " .. Yeah, right.

If you accept returns on your eBay then the reason doesn't matter sadly.

[steelers]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

If you accept returns on your eBay then the reason doesn't matter sadly.

Yes, I do allow returns and have no problem with them, if you don't like the item shortly after you receive it, returns are perfectly acceptable. I have a major problem with someone trying to take advantage of the rules to screw the seller.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by steelers

Yes, I do allow returns and have no problem with them, if you don't like the item shortly after you receive it, returns are perfectly acceptable. I have a major problem with someone trying to take advantage of the rules to screw the seller.

I understand and it stinks but it's the rules he could have found a better price and done the same and eBay encourages and allows it. Just the nature of the beast.

[JohnRyno]

He could've listed "moving to the international space station" as the reason for return. It's all street legal as long as you get the card back in the same condition it went out.

[fenwaykid]

Selling on eBay sucks lately. You can't trust anyone anymore and eBay give doesn't give 2 shts.

Assume it was Bregman?

[Keyser Soze]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

If you accept returns on your eBay then the reason doesn't matter sadly.

You have to allow returns. You can say that you don't allow them all you want, but eBay will force you to if buyer claims "item not as described," which is a massive gray area as we all know.

[puck419]

It's funny.... This is the same buyer (airtrucker) who told someone I know at my LCS a week after he won the auction of a card that he was not going to be paying because his son bid on the card and has for sure disciplined his son, and wouldn't happen again.

(I believe it was also a prospect card)

[Boo]

Originally Posted by puck419

It's funny.... This is the same buyer (airtrucker) who told someone I know at my LCS a week after he won the auction of a card that he was not going to be paying because his son bid on the card and has for sure disciplined his son, and wouldn't happen again.

(I believe it was also a prospect card)

Is his son a beaded metaphor?

[nanners13]

Originally Posted by fenwaykid

Selling on eBay sucks lately. You can't trust anyone anymore and eBay give doesn't give 2 shts.

Assume it was Bregman?

i was just gonna say, Bet ya its Bregman, with all the recent threads on him flopping

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

You have to allow returns. You can say that you don't allow them all you want, but eBay will force you to if buyer claims "item not as described," which is a massive gray area as we all know.

Correct, but if you do not have returns listed they can not return it for reasons like this, the buyer would need to use the not as described and be dishonest (which does happen)

[Keyser Soze]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Correct, but if you do not have returns listed they can not return it for reasons like this, the buyer would need to use the not as described and be dishonest (which does happen)

Right. So you might as well accept returns. These jerks have no issue lying about the reason for the return, and worse yet, you hear stories of them actually damaging the card just to facilitate the return.

Yet another reason that I'm glad I stopped prospecting.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Right. So you might as well accept returns. These jerks have no issue lying about the reason for the return, and worse yet, you hear stories of them actually damaging the card just to facilitate the return.

Yet another reason that I'm glad I stopped prospecting.

I completely agree and in our opinion the discount outweighs the issues we have gotten by accepting returns. I get the call out thread and frustration, but by accepting the returns the OP has to take them and it stinks.

[Syndygaard]

Originally Posted by steelers

He bought a $500 plus card from me on July 12 through ebay and he received it on July 16. He left positive feedback the same day, A+ seller is what he put for feedback. Now out of nowhere, he sends a request to return the item today. The player has gone down a bit in price of course, this is in my opinion the absolute worst part about this business. It's beyond bad business, it's pathetic. Please block this buyer. There should be a 3-day period after you receive an item, where you can no longer return it. Ebay better do something about this soon, it's absolutely ridiculous what the buyer can get away with

Do you accept returns? Like your ebay account setup?

[Nyfancam01]

Originally Posted by Syndygaard

Do you accept returns? Like your ebay account setup?

if you sell on ebay.... you accept returns

[Syndygaard]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

The credit card companies allow up to 6 months, so eBay can not do a quick return as they would be swamped with more Credit Card challenges than they do now.

If you allow returns, a buyer can return for any reason including finding a lower price, if you do not allow returns eBay has to allow a buyer to return if they see fit or people will get their financial institutions involved and eBay will be forced to take the returns.

Just the nature of eBay becoming a "major retailer"

If you allow returns, I thought it was only 14 days?

[Syndygaard]

Originally Posted by steelers

Yes, I do allow returns and have no problem with them, if you don't like the item shortly after you receive it, returns are perfectly acceptable. I have a major problem with someone trying to take advantage of the rules to screw the seller.

This is where you have to make the decision as to where to roll the dice when things like this can happen vs not happen based on what you set up as a seller. I dont offer returns, period, so this cant happen. Its not worth it mate.

[kordell1]

Originally Posted by steelers

He bought a $500 plus card from me on July 12 through ebay and he received it on July 16. He left positive feedback the same day, A+ seller is what he put for feedback. Now out of nowhere, he sends a request to return the item today. The player has gone down a bit in price of course, this is in my opinion the absolute worst part about this business. It's beyond bad business, it's pathetic. Please block this buyer. There should be a 3-day period after you receive an item, where you can no longer return it. Ebay better do something about this soon, it's absolutely ridiculous what the buyer can get away with

Do you have the 20% restocking fee set on your listings? I did that a couple months ago and haven't had any returns since.

[grimmr74]

I wonder what this post would read like if the card that was sold had gone up in price

[Syndygaard]

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

You have to allow returns. You can say that you don't allow them all you want, but eBay will force you to if buyer claims "item not as described," which is a massive gray area as we all know.

In my opinion, no you dont. I have (knock on wood) - had like 1 person do this over 6 years of activity - if I accept returns it opens up the floodgates.

[Syndygaard]

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

Right. So you might as well accept returns. These jerks have no issue lying about the reason for the return, and worse yet, you hear stories of them actually damaging the card just to facilitate the return.

Yet another reason that I'm glad I stopped prospecting.

No no no - dont do that it makes it 10x worse - just limit the damage by not accpeting returns and those who will be dishonest will rarely happen Im telling you.

[BostonNut]

20% restocking fee.

You won't have this problem anymore.