Lebron is the Youngest to 28k Points

pingbling23 · 02-05-2017, 09:33 AM

Lebron surpassed Kobe last night as the youngest player to achieve 28k points, Lebron was 32 years and 36 days old. Kobe was 33 years and 131 days. Commentators were saying last night Lebron woukd need to average around 25 a game for the next 5 seasons to surpass kareem on the all time list. Durant has a good chance as well to move up the lists at Lebrons pace, it will be fun to see if he can do it.

Doublexthebeast · 02-05-2017, 09:42 AM

Lebron has a chance to be extremely productive for quite a few more years. He doesn't shoot the ball particularly well though so it will be interesting to see how he evolves his game as his athleticism starts to go away. I'll never count that guy out though, so it's likely he makes a run at Kareem.

Durant shoots the ball from the outside well so I think he is the type of guy that has a chance to be extremely productive as he ages.

6celtics33 · 02-05-2017, 10:02 AM

This speaks to him being durable and the best of the high school to NBA stars. He was ready right away and very consistent. Going forward, it's just hard to chase Kareem. Just from a skill standpoint. You don't stop being 7'4 with a sweet sky hook just because you get old. That's why Kareem is 1.

bdoody42 · 02-05-2017, 10:21 AM

I think Lebron will pass in Kareem in due time. Like stated above he has done a great job staying healthy. Him being easy from day 1 was extremely helpful.

Stats · 02-05-2017, 10:51 AM

I assume LeBron will be able to make it to #2, but Durant's game has a better chance. The only thing I would see holding Durant back is another major injury.

exoticprince · 02-05-2017, 10:59 AM

Another of many great achievements for the king. It won't be easy catching Kareem's record but he's definitely got a decent shot and should no doubt at least end his career at least # 2 all time.

the27guy · 02-05-2017, 11:02 AM

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Another of many great achievements for the king. It won't be easy catching Kareem's record but he's definitely got a decent shot and should no doubt at least end his career at least # 2 all time.

If he gets to 2, he'll get to 1. Malone is only like 1500 points behind Kareem. Malone could have caught Kareem had he really gone after it.

I think he finishes first or third overall. Most likely third.

exoticprince · 02-05-2017, 11:12 AM

Yea but that's the thing, 1500 points could likely be the difference of coming back an additional season or not, a decision the mail man chose to pass on. Time will tell anyhow so much can happen between now and then.

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If he gets to 2, he'll get to 1. Malone is only like 1500 points behind Kareem. Malone could have caught Kareem had he really gone after it.

I think he finishes first or third overall. Most likely third.

rdleifriaf · 02-05-2017, 11:12 AM

Unless LeBron's athleticism has some sort of freakish longevity, I don't see him getting to Kareem. His shot just isn't that good.

KD has a career 0.20 PPG better average than LeBron, and I think he'll finish with more career points scored.

tjforce · 02-05-2017, 01:51 PM

I believe that the record is Lebron's if he wants it. We've never seen an athlete like him before in the NBA. He's at a point were he should be regressing, but the facts are that this season:
*His shooting % has risen for a second straight year
*His scoring has risen for a second straight year
*His 3Pt shooting % is the highest its been in 4 years, and the 3rd highest of his career

He has the natural advantage that with his size he will be able to transition to more of a post player later in his career, unlike Jordan and Kobe. He began working on this a few years ago in Miami.

Durant has a few disadvantages in his quest to become the scoring champ. Mainly, games played.

Coming into this season, Durant has played 641 games over 9 seasons and scored 17,566 points. At the same age, Lebron had played 765 games over 10 season and scored 21,081 points. At the same point in their careers, Durant had averaged 27.4 points per game to Lebron's 27.6. That is important, because Durant is sharing the ball much more in Golden State, and his points per game is down to 25.8 thus far this season. At the same age season, Lebron still averaged over 27, before dropping into the 25 range since.

The other big issue for Durant is the broken foot and 3 surgeries in 2014-15. While his efficiency hasn't really dropped, his minutes and scoring have. Whether or not this injury slows him down later in his career is speculation, but he lost about 55 games he'll never get back.

Two things can really stop Lebron. One is major injury. Once Kobe started getting hurt, he went down hill quick. Lebron has never had a major injury to this point, but you never know.

The next is Lebron himself. If he hits age 36 and is no longer top 5, does he even want to play? My guess is yes; he is such a great distributor and will find a way to put together a competitive team where what's left of his skills were help them compete. But what do I know about the thought process of a guy who will be damn near a billionaire in the near future.

6celtics33 · 02-05-2017, 02:26 PM

@tj.... So in your mind Jordan didn't become a great post player later in his career when he came out of retirement?

dbird3312 · 02-05-2017, 02:29 PM

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@tj.... So in your mind Jordan didn't become a great post player later in his career when he came out of retirement?

That's what you took from all that? Haha oookay. No I believe he said lebrons size allows him to transition to post play easier

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6celtics33 · 02-05-2017, 02:31 PM

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That's what you took from all that? Haha oookay. No I believe he said lebrons size allows his to transition to post play easier

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Wow buddy you dive right in. I took a few things from it but that's the one id like clarified if is ok with you. What he said was that Lebron could transition to a post game unlike Jordan and Kobe. Jordan lived in the post late in his career.

6celtics33 · 02-05-2017, 02:33 PM

But this is the norm.... If it's got Lebron or any other player in the title of a thread then the slurpers are allowed to talk down any other player but if you defend any other player then there will be plenty of people waiting to jump down my throat and tell me this isn't a Jordan thread. Note I wasn't the one who brought Jordan up. Maybe Lebron could add 5,000 points to his total if he'd ever get his free throw % to 80-85.

asujbl · 02-05-2017, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 6celtics33

But this is the norm.... If it's got Lebron or any other player in the title of a thread then the slurpers are allowed to talk down any other player but if you defend any other player then there will be plenty of people waiting to jump down my throat and tell me this isn't a Jordan thread. Note I wasn't the one who brought Jordan up. Maybe Lebron could add 5,000 points to his total if he'd ever get his free throw % to 80-85.

Your math is spot on... how many FT's do you think he takes a year?

6celtics33 · 02-05-2017, 02:53 PM

Haha, and here is the professor. Tax professor, grammar professor, and now math professor. You all are so predictable it's hilarious. Now I just need jj2 to quote me and give a one line snarky remark and it will be complete.

6celtics33 · 02-05-2017, 02:55 PM

To answer your question though, I know it's not 5000 yet but hell, Lebron will play til he's 45 or 46 and average 25 every year. Why wouldn't he?

asujbl · 02-05-2017, 02:56 PM

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Haha, and here is the professor. Tax professor, grammar professor, and now math professor. You all are so predictable it's hilarious. Now I just need jj2 to quote me and give a one line snarky remark and it will be complete.

Not my fault you can't do math. Blame your elementary school.

Orangejello727 · 02-05-2017, 02:56 PM

The basic takeaway from these types of threads is that Lebron MUST be the best at everything. If stats prove otherwise, then that means Lebron could do it but chooses not to. If stats prove it so, then it means Lebron is the best. He can never be anywhere but #1.

Ill congratulate Lebron when he passes Kareem. But please remember if he doesn't pass Kareem, its not because he didnt want to. Its because he couldn't. The same goes for any stat you choose and any player you choose.

Congrats to Lebron for being the youngest to accomplish something.

6celtics33 · 02-05-2017, 02:57 PM

D bird needs to make another top 5 thread and then yell at people like they're dumb when they don't telepathically know he "meant" top 10. Save the pm's though bud. Don't need to hear it.

6celtics33 · 02-05-2017, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Orangejello727

The basic takeaway from these types of threads is that Lebron MUST be the best at everything. If stats prove otherwise, then that means Lebron could do it but chooses not to. If stats prove it so, then it means Lebron is the best. He can never be anywhere but #1.

Ill congratulate Lebron when he passes Kareem. But please remember if he doesn't pass Kareem, its not because he didnt want to. Its because he couldn't. The same goes for any stat you choose and any player you choose.

Congrats to Lebron for being the youngest to accomplish something.

Exactly, probably the front office's fault for holding him back if he doesn't

6celtics33 · 02-05-2017, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Not my fault you can't do math. Blame your elementary school.

Lebron fan wanting me to blame someone else. Sounds about right.

asujbl · 02-05-2017, 03:02 PM

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Lebron fan wanting me to blame someone else. Sounds about right.

No worries. If you taught yourself awful math than just blame yourself. Don't have to pass it along.

rookies · 02-05-2017, 03:10 PM

I think lebron wants the most points scored title just to say he wasnt even a scorer yet scored the most. Lebron thinks he is (and is) a pass first player so for him to be the leading point scorer it would be a better case for his GOAT status. I think Jordan is the GOAT no matter what, but lebron still has a shot if he gets more accolades. KAreem was known for scoring Malone known for scoring MJ known for scoring lebron not so much so if he finishes on top thats amazing.

rookies · 02-05-2017, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Orangejello727

The basic takeaway from these types of threads is that Lebron MUST be the best at everything. If stats prove otherwise, then that means Lebron could do it but chooses not to. If stats prove it so, then it means Lebron is the best. He can never be anywhere but #1.

Ill congratulate Lebron when he passes Kareem. But please remember if he doesn't pass Kareem, its not because he didnt want to. Its because he couldn't. The same goes for any stat you choose and any player you choose.

Congrats to Lebron for being the youngest to accomplish something.

Totally agree but same thing goes for Jordan could have/ should have won 8 rings.

02-05-2017, 10:21 AM	#4
bdoody42 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: MD Posts: 8,346 Mainecards42 bdoody42	I think Lebron will pass in Kareem in due time. Like stated above he has done a great job staying healthy. Him being easy from day 1 was extremely helpful. __________________ Looking for Celtic on card autos and Paul Pierce cards. IG-marylandcards42

02-05-2017, 11:12 AM	#9
rdleifriaf Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: PNW Posts: 1,024 rdleifriaf	Unless LeBron's athleticism has some sort of freakish longevity, I don't see him getting to Kareem. His shot just isn't that good. KD has a career 0.20 PPG better average than LeBron, and I think he'll finish with more career points scored. __________________ http://www.hobbydisplay.com/rdleifriaf/wilkins https://twitter.com/HobbyDisplay

02-05-2017, 01:51 PM	#10
tjforce Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 23,781	I believe that the record is Lebron's if he wants it. We've never seen an athlete like him before in the NBA. He's at a point were he should be regressing, but the facts are that this season: His shooting % has risen for a second straight year His scoring has risen for a second straight year *His 3Pt shooting % is the highest its been in 4 years, and the 3rd highest of his career He has the natural advantage that with his size he will be able to transition to more of a post player later in his career, unlike Jordan and Kobe. He began working on this a few years ago in Miami. Durant has a few disadvantages in his quest to become the scoring champ. Mainly, games played. Coming into this season, Durant has played 641 games over 9 seasons and scored 17,566 points. At the same age, Lebron had played 765 games over 10 season and scored 21,081 points. At the same point in their careers, Durant had averaged 27.4 points per game to Lebron's 27.6. That is important, because Durant is sharing the ball much more in Golden State, and his points per game is down to 25.8 thus far this season. At the same age season, Lebron still averaged over 27, before dropping into the 25 range since. The other big issue for Durant is the broken foot and 3 surgeries in 2014-15. While his efficiency hasn't really dropped, his minutes and scoring have. Whether or not this injury slows him down later in his career is speculation, but he lost about 55 games he'll never get back. Two things can really stop Lebron. One is major injury. Once Kobe started getting hurt, he went down hill quick. Lebron has never had a major injury to this point, but you never know. The next is Lebron himself. If he hits age 36 and is no longer top 5, does he even want to play? My guess is yes; he is such a great distributor and will find a way to put together a competitive team where what's left of his skills were help them compete. But what do I know about the thought process of a guy who will be damn near a billionaire in the near future. __________________ "Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because it’s the best thing going. Wooooo!"

02-05-2017, 03:10 PM	#24
rookies Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Hawaii Posts: 2,107	I think lebron wants the most points scored title just to say he wasnt even a scorer yet scored the most. Lebron thinks he is (and is) a pass first player so for him to be the leading point scorer it would be a better case for his GOAT status. I think Jordan is the GOAT no matter what, but lebron still has a shot if he gets more accolades. KAreem was known for scoring Malone known for scoring MJ known for scoring lebron not so much so if he finishes on top thats amazing. __________________ BUYING: Lebron James Exquisite auto patch cards, preferably from 03/04, 08/09, and 09/10.

02-05-2017, 09:33 AM	#1
pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 16,027	Lebron is the Youngest to 28k Points Lebron surpassed Kobe last night as the youngest player to achieve 28k points, Lebron was 32 years and 36 days old. Kobe was 33 years and 131 days. Commentators were saying last night Lebron woukd need to average around 25 a game for the next 5 seasons to surpass kareem on the all time list. Durant has a good chance as well to move up the lists at Lebrons pace, it will be fun to see if he can do it.

02-05-2017, 09:42 AM	#2
Doublexthebeast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 8,806	Lebron has a chance to be extremely productive for quite a few more years. He doesn't shoot the ball particularly well though so it will be interesting to see how he evolves his game as his athleticism starts to go away. I'll never count that guy out though, so it's likely he makes a run at Kareem. Durant shoots the ball from the outside well so I think he is the type of guy that has a chance to be extremely productive as he ages. __________________ Shane McClanahan Super Collector. Always Buying.

02-05-2017, 10:02 AM	#3
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,316	This speaks to him being durable and the best of the high school to NBA stars. He was ready right away and very consistent. Going forward, it's just hard to chase Kareem. Just from a skill standpoint. You don't stop being 7'4 with a sweet sky hook just because you get old. That's why Kareem is 1.

02-05-2017, 10:51 AM	#5
Stats Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,411 thestats23_IG stats	I assume LeBron will be able to make it to #2, but Durant's game has a better chance. The only thing I would see holding Durant back is another major injury.

02-05-2017, 10:59 AM	#6
exoticprince Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,309	Another of many great achievements for the king. It won't be easy catching Kareem's record but he's definitely got a decent shot and should no doubt at least end his career at least # 2 all time.

02-05-2017, 02:26 PM	#11
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,316	@tj.... So in your mind Jordan didn't become a great post player later in his career when he came out of retirement?

02-05-2017, 02:33 PM	#14
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,316	But this is the norm.... If it's got Lebron or any other player in the title of a thread then the slurpers are allowed to talk down any other player but if you defend any other player then there will be plenty of people waiting to jump down my throat and tell me this isn't a Jordan thread. Note I wasn't the one who brought Jordan up. Maybe Lebron could add 5,000 points to his total if he'd ever get his free throw % to 80-85.

02-05-2017, 02:53 PM	#16
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,316	Haha, and here is the professor. Tax professor, grammar professor, and now math professor. You all are so predictable it's hilarious. Now I just need jj2 to quote me and give a one line snarky remark and it will be complete.

02-05-2017, 02:55 PM	#17
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,316	To answer your question though, I know it's not 5000 yet but hell, Lebron will play til he's 45 or 46 and average 25 every year. Why wouldn't he?

02-05-2017, 02:56 PM	#19
Orangejello727 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 19,096	The basic takeaway from these types of threads is that Lebron MUST be the best at everything. If stats prove otherwise, then that means Lebron could do it but chooses not to. If stats prove it so, then it means Lebron is the best. He can never be anywhere but #1. Ill congratulate Lebron when he passes Kareem. But please remember if he doesn't pass Kareem, its not because he didnt want to. Its because he couldn't. The same goes for any stat you choose and any player you choose. Congrats to Lebron for being the youngest to accomplish something.

02-05-2017, 02:57 PM	#20
6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,316	D bird needs to make another top 5 thread and then yell at people like they're dumb when they don't telepathically know he "meant" top 10. Save the pm's though bud. Don't need to hear it.