Poor Ryan Healy

broadway6 · 06-17-2017, 05:56 PM

17 homers and nobody is paying attention.

hornedfrog1985 · 06-17-2017, 05:57 PM

comes with being a dh

ThoseBackPages · 06-17-2017, 05:58 PM

#ALLRISE

Jhart · 06-17-2017, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

#ALLRISE

Hahahahaha

preakness · 06-17-2017, 06:03 PM

Didn't Oakland move to Vegas?

moosetequila · 06-17-2017, 06:05 PM

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Didn't Oakland move to Vegas?

A's are the only thing left in O'town... GSW moves to SF, Raiders to Vegas...

YanksBillsFan · 06-17-2017, 06:07 PM

Nobody pays attention to him and they misspell his name. Guy can't win at all.

LCM1223 · 06-17-2017, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by YanksBillsFan

Nobody pays attention to him and they misspell his name. Guy can't win at all.

Ferg1945 · 06-17-2017, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hornedfrog1985

comes with being a dh

Yeah.... being that young and you are DH only... not gonna get much hobby love.

80% fielding percentage at 3B isn't gonna cut it.

Albert Pujols, David Ortiz and Frank Thomas played the field before moving to DH later in career.

texmcpherson · 06-17-2017, 06:27 PM

Matt Davidson has 14...

NeedChapmans · 06-17-2017, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by broadway6

17 homers and nobody is paying attention.

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Originally Posted by texmcpherson

Matt Davidson has 14...

Runs WAAAAYYYYY up this year compared to previous years. Everybody hitting HR's now; the pace is crazy.

Quick, somebody name me the best young pitcher in baseball. I'll wait.

Rooftop · 06-17-2017, 06:56 PM

Votto has 19 and plays the field.

Wrightfan85 · 06-17-2017, 07:07 PM

Conforto has 14 but he plays with the Mets. We're used to being ignored

caulaflour · 06-17-2017, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooftop

Votto plays the field.

Ottomatic · 06-17-2017, 07:15 PM

Feels like a lot of players with good HR totals. Meaning we need to readjust what we consider good and what we consider great. (im sure 17 is still very good).

WalterAZ31 · 06-17-2017, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Runs WAAAAYYYYY up this year compared to previous years. Everybody hitting HR's now; the pace is crazy.

Quick, somebody name me the best young pitcher in baseball. I'll wait.

Robbie Ray
Jose Berrios
Kyle Freeland
Jeff Hoffman
Luis Severino
Jacob DeGrom
Jameson Taillon
Michael Fulmer

That's about it

broadway6 · 06-17-2017, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Runs WAAAAYYYYY up this year compared to previous years. Everybody hitting HR's now; the pace is crazy.

Quick, somebody name me the best young pitcher in baseball. I'll wait.

Not many out there. Probably Berios since Reyes had TJ surgery.

NeedChapmans · 06-17-2017, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

Robbie Ray
Jose Berrios
Kyle Freeland
Jeff Hoffman
Luis Severino
Jacob DeGrom
Jameson Taillon
Michael Fulmer

That's about it

Half of your list haven't thrown 100 major league innings and to list a guy like DeGrom ... who turns THIRTY next year as young?

Go look back at the last six drafts. You'll likely pull every young major league superstar out of them from the hitting side (Correa, Judge, Bryant, Lindor, etc. etc. etc) but you won't find a single quality arm who has impacted the game in any meaningful way.

Look around at the games today for example. Wainwright v Miley ... 22 runs. Ryu vs. Woj ... 12 runs, Gallardo v Perez ... 14 runs etc. etc. etc. Every team is just running through old tread guys rather than throwing their young pitchers, well, because they don't have any.

Pitching is being washed away before our very eyes. After the maybe handful of pitchers that make their way into the hall from this generation, it could be a very very very long time before another one is enshrined.

WalterAZ31 · 06-17-2017, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Half of your list haven't thrown 100 major league innings and to list a guy like DeGrom ... who turns THIRTY next year as young?

Go look back at the last six drafts. You'll likely pull every young major league superstar out of them from the hitting side (Correa, Judge, Bryant, Lindor, etc. etc. etc) but you won't find a single quality arm who has impacted the game in any meaningful way.

Look around at the games today for example. Wainwright v Miley ... 22 runs. Ryu vs. Woj ... 12 runs, Gallardo v Perez ... 14 runs etc. etc. etc. Every team is just running through old tread guys rather than throwing their young pitchers, well, because they don't have any.

Pitching is being washed away before our very eyes. After the maybe handful of pitchers that make their way into the hall from this generation, it could be a very very very long time before another one is enshrined.

I was going off top of my head and didn't really realize how old DeGrom was. All you asked were who the best young pitchers in game were. Thanks for adding your criteria for innings pitched after though

WalterAZ31 · 06-17-2017, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Half of your list haven't thrown 100 major league innings and to list a guy like DeGrom ... who turns THIRTY next year as young?

Go look back at the last six drafts. You'll likely pull every young major league superstar out of them from the hitting side (Correa, Judge, Bryant, Lindor, etc. etc. etc) but you won't find a single quality arm who has impacted the game in any meaningful way.

Look around at the games today for example. Wainwright v Miley ... 22 runs. Ryu vs. Woj ... 12 runs, Gallardo v Perez ... 14 runs etc. etc. etc. Every team is just running through old tread guys rather than throwing their young pitchers, well, because they don't have any.

Pitching is being washed away before our very eyes. After the maybe handful of pitchers that make their way into the hall from this generation, it could be a very very very long time before another one is enshrined.

Jose Fernandez and Gerrit Cole have and were just fine

WalterAZ31 · 06-17-2017, 07:53 PM

Michael Wacha dominant postseason helped st Louis win
A world championship. I'd say that was pretty meaningful

NeedChapmans · 06-17-2017, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

I was going off top of my head and didn't really realize how old DeGrom was. All you asked were who the best young pitchers in game were. Thanks for adding your criteria for innings pitched after though

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Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

Jose Fernandez and Gerrit Cole have and were just fine

Kyle Freeland and Jeff Hoffman will be washed up in 2 years. Sure, some pitchers have good months, or even good seasons, but none of them stick. None; especially the ones in Minnesota or Colorado.

Gerritt Cole will be 27 this year, and he has 51 major league wins and is sporting a 5 ERA this year. Jose Fernandez doesn't matter anymore. The league does not have a single great young pitcher. Not one, and it's the very reason why run totals are skyrocketing (as are HR's). MLB starting pitching has quickly turned into a dumpster fire.

WalterAZ31 · 06-17-2017, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Kyle Freeland and Jeff Hoffman will be washed up in 2 years. Sure, some pitchers have good months, or even good seasons, but none of them stick. None; especially the ones in Minnesota or Colorado.

Gerritt Cole will be 27 this year, and he has 51 major league wins and is sporting a 5 ERA this year. Jose Fernandez doesn't matter anymore. The league does not have a single great young pitcher. Not one, and it's the very reason why run totals are skyrocketing (as are HR's). MLB starting pitching has quickly turned into a dumpster fire.

Lol. Great stuff. Can I get some good lotto numbers too? Nice to see your still gods gift on here

Kcelelli · 06-17-2017, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Kyle Freeland and Jeff Hoffman will be washed up in 2 years. Sure, some pitchers have good months, or even good seasons, but none of them stick. None; especially the ones in Minnesota or Colorado.

Gerritt Cole will be 27 this year, and he has 51 major league wins and is sporting a 5 ERA this year. Jose Fernandez doesn't matter anymore. The league does not have a single great young pitcher. Not one, and it's the very reason why run totals are skyrocketing (as are HR's). MLB starting pitching has quickly turned into a dumpster fire.

Jose Fernandez will always matter

StraWMyerS · 06-17-2017, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

Michael Wacha dominant postseason helped st Louis win
A world championship. I'd say that was pretty meaningful

The last 2 or 3 years have seen the quality of pitching around the league go from bad to worse....

Top talent from the minors such as Glasnow, Giolito, Cotton, Garrett, etc. is getting lit up for the most part.

There are key injuries to starters on basically every team each year and then those players often take another year to get back in form.

Wachas rise was nice, but did not exactly sustain which is what we are not seeing. Guys are having a good year if they're lucky and then falling off a lot.

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