It's Time For Us Collectors and Breakers To Boycott Panini

TRode · 07-10-2017, 07:41 AM

Over the last year, Panini America has hindered the Football card collecting hobby. They have complete reign over the Football corner of this hobby and they are taking advantage of it. From labeling relics in Flawless as game-used when they aren't to not authenticating autographs from 1st round draft pick Takkarist McKinley, it was too many mistakes right after another. But now, we have the most sought after RC auto from 2016 now being faked. Most Dak Prescott autographs in 2016 Prizm are fake and Panini has owned up to it. That's great, but it's too late and these mistakes are happening too often. In May, we had the Takkarist McKinley drama, now we have the same situation with Dak Prescott. When will it stop?

It WON'T stop unless we show Panini that we aren't stupid and we aren't taking it anymore. The only way to show them is to NOT buy Panini products anymore. Hurt them where it's hurt us: Their Bank Accounts. Vote with your dollar and let Panini know that you've screwed us collectors over for the last time.

Breakers, PLEASE JOIN US! This movement doesn't get off the ground if it doesn't have your support. No more bulk shipments of Panini products. No more case breaks, group breaks or mixers with Panini products. The more you buy Panini, the more it shows them that YOU are OKAY with giving your customers fake autographs and fake relics.

Collectors, no single, no boxes, no group breaks or anything that involves Panini. It's time we get serious about this and it's time we let Panini know that they haven't earned our money. They don't respect us by doing right by us as collectors, we don't buy their non-authentic products. The more you buy Panini, the more you are letting them know that YOU are OKAY with buying fake relics and fake autographs.

If we ALL come together and work together and follow through, maybe, just maybe, something will change. This is the ONLY way things will change. Enough words, let's put some actions behind them!! Who's with me?!?!

Edreedballhawk · 07-10-2017, 08:02 AM

Don't forget having to buy the college release in order to get the NFL stuff from National Treasures.

ClickWins · 07-10-2017, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TRode

Over the last year, Panini America has hindered the Football card collecting hobby. They have complete reign over the Football corner of this hobby and they are taking advantage of it. From labeling relics in Flawless as game-used when they aren't to not authenticating autographs from 1st round draft pick Takkarist McKinley, it was too many mistakes right after another. But now, we have the most sought after RC auto from 2016 now being faked. Most Dak Prescott autographs in 2016 Prizm are fake and Panini has owned up to it. That's great, but it's too late and these mistakes are happening too often. In May, we had the Takkarist McKinley drama, now we have the same situation with Dak Prescott. When will it stop?

It WON'T stop unless we show Panini that we aren't stupid and we aren't taking it anymore. The only way to show them is to NOT buy Panini products anymore. Hurt them where it's hurt us: Their Bank Accounts. Vote with your dollar and let Panini know that you've screwed us collectors over for the last time.

Breakers, PLEASE JOIN US! This movement doesn't get off the ground if it doesn't have your support. No more bulk shipments of Panini products. No more case breaks, group breaks or mixers with Panini products. The more you buy Panini, the more it shows them that YOU are OKAY with giving your customers fake autographs and fake relics.

Collectors, no single, no boxes, no group breaks or anything that involves Panini. It's time we get serious about this and it's time we let Panini know that they haven't earned our money. They don't respect us by doing right by us as collectors, we don't buy their non-authentic products. The more you buy Panini, the more you are letting them know that YOU are OKAY with buying fake relics and fake autographs.

If we ALL come together and work together and follow through, maybe, just maybe, something will change. This is the ONLY way things will change. Enough words, let's put some actions behind them!! Who's with me?!?!

You think the breakers are going to stop making money??? You think they actually care about the consumers? Fake autos or not they just see $$$

hairysasquatch · 07-10-2017, 08:08 AM

All of us in the BPF1Y thread are wit' you, man!

Siberian13 · 07-10-2017, 08:11 AM

Sucks you are forced to buy products you don't want to get the good ones. Pretty messed up

Cavaliercards · 07-10-2017, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Sucks you are forced to buy products you don't want to get the good ones. Pretty messed up

I know right, we were pissed about that when we heard about Marvel Premier's Allocation.

Cavaliercards · 07-10-2017, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ClickWins

You think the breakers are going to stop making money??? You think they actually care about the consumers? Fake autos or not they just see $$$

That was my first thought as well.

TRode · 07-10-2017, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ClickWins

You think the breakers are going to stop making money??? You think they actually care about the consumers? Fake autos or not they just see $$$

I know it's a long shot, but we need breakers support in order to send any sort of message to Panini. No way we can do it just as collectors.

TRode · 07-10-2017, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ClickWins

You think the breakers are going to stop making money??? You think they actually care about the consumers? Fake autos or not they just see $$$

There's a whole bunch of Topps products to buy. Old football stuff and Baseball stuff.

Ray27Ray52 · 07-10-2017, 08:23 AM

Breakers are never going to stop breaking. This is how they make money. You aren't going to convince them to stop trying to make money.

Cavaliercards · 07-10-2017, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TRode

There's a whole bunch of Topps products to buy. Old football stuff and Baseball stuff.

And people want new football rookies when they are thriving like last years class did. Topps loaded up their last year with redemptions and you hear more horror story replacements than good things about those, they did it on purpose.

Agree there are a lot of nice baseball products.

cowboyzqna · 07-10-2017, 08:24 AM

Group breaking is a machine right now... I remember back when it was on youtube and it took a week to fill a break lol.

Group breakers are getting paid... some are literally breaking a million dollars of product a year. (An educated guess... 2k a night would be over 700k... you do the math... we have all seen 50 thousand dollar nights when NT first comes out)

Panini knows this. They don't need to do right by the collectors... people love to gamble (I am a huge proponent of group breaks myself... great fun for 50 bucks)

Don't stress it man. It is what it is.

TRode · 07-10-2017, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Breakers are never going to stop breaking. This is how they make money. You aren't going to convince them to stop trying to make money.

They don't need to stop breaking. Just stop buying Panini stuff. Buy some 2015 Topps Football or Topps Baseball.

TRode · 07-10-2017, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cowboyzqna

Group breaking is a machine right now... I remember back when it was on youtube and it took a week to fill a break lol.

Group breakers are getting paid... some are literally breaking a million dollars of product a year. (An educated guess... 2k a night would be over 700k... you do the math... we have all seen 50 thousand dollar nights when NT first comes out)

Panini knows this. They don't need to do right by the collectors... people love to gamble (I am a huge proponent of group breaks myself... great fun for 50 bucks)

Don't stress it man. It is what it is.

Like I said, I know it's a real long shot. But it's the only way things will change. If Panini is still making that money even after all these screw ups, why would they change any practices?

Ray27Ray52 · 07-10-2017, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TRode

They don't need to stop breaking. Just stop buying Panini stuff. Buy some 2015 Topps Football or Topps Baseball.

LOL. You can't be serious. Are you an adult?

TRode · 07-10-2017, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

LOL. You can't be serious. Are you an adult?

Like I've said, it's a long shot, but nothing changes if breakers don't at least lessen the Panini products they buy.

Ray27Ray52 · 07-10-2017, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TRode

Like I've said, it's a long shot, but nothing changes if breakers don't at least lessen the Panini products they buy.

Panini holds the exclusive NFL license. That means breakers would forego the big money makers like Optic and NT. That won't happen in a million years. You can't be this naïve.

Cavaliercards · 07-10-2017, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TRode

Like I said, I know it's a real long shot. But it's the only way things will change. If players are still making that money even after all these screw ups, why would they change any practices?

Fixed it for you in regards to fake autographs which have happened industry wide except for BG

cowboyzqna · 07-10-2017, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TRode

Like I've said, it's a long shot, but nothing changes if breakers don't at least lessen the Panini products they buy.

Won't happen. New products are the business. (Double Entendre)

Cavaliercards · 07-10-2017, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Panini holds the exclusive NFL license. That means breakers would forego the big money makers like Optic and NT. That won't happen in a million years. You can't be this naïve.

And as Topps doesn't want the NFL and UD can't come close to affording a fraction of the license. That leaves us hoping Leaf takes over.

Branesergen · 07-10-2017, 08:33 AM

See heres the thing with me, this might actually get traction but the over-exaggerations is is what kills it. There are quite a few things you could be using but you're going with "If you support fake autos and fake patches"? You're talking about a 0.01% of an entire years worth of product being "faked". So 5000 (a very generous number) out of how many hundreds of thousands of autos released brand wide in 2016 were "faked". 50 patches out of how many hundreds of thousands of patches released brand wide were "faked". OMG everything is fake! And you support fake if you buy Panini!!!!!!111!11!!!

I get what you're trying to do, I really do, but talking like a child throws a temper tantrum is not how to get things done. Well maybe it is in this New America....

If you were to put together a solid case of why people should be boycotting Panini you might just sway some people to follow. But over-exaggerated claims and "poopnini this, poopnini that" just makes you look foolish in my eyes and I would never support your cause.

TRode · 07-10-2017, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Panini holds the exclusive NFL license. That means breakers would forego the big money makers like Optic and NT. That won't happen in a million years. You can't be this naïve.

For the 4th or 5th time, I know it's a long shot. I know it probably won't happen. But it's the only way to change things. Actions, not words. If you don't agree that's fine but don't start #@#@#@#@.

Ray27Ray52 · 07-10-2017, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TRode

For the 4th or 5th time, I know it's a long shot. I know it probably won't happen. But it's the only way to change things. Actions, not words. If you don't agree that's fine but don't start #@#@#@#@.

It's not a long shot. It's an iron clad impossibility.

TRode · 07-10-2017, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cowboyzqna

Won't happen. New products are the business. (Double Entendre)

I get that. But I'm not the kind of person to just sit on a forum and complain and complain and expect that to change something.

TRode · 07-10-2017, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

And as Topps doesn't want the NFL and UD can't come close to affording a fraction of the license. That leaves us hoping Leaf takes over.

Well Panini has the license til 2024 I believe so that's making the situation rougher too. I don't think Leaf as the power to take over either.

07-10-2017, 07:41 AM	#1
TRode Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 586 trode1207	It's Time For Us Collectors and Breakers To Boycott Panini Over the last year, Panini America has hindered the Football card collecting hobby. They have complete reign over the Football corner of this hobby and they are taking advantage of it. From labeling relics in Flawless as game-used when they aren't to not authenticating autographs from 1st round draft pick Takkarist McKinley, it was too many mistakes right after another. But now, we have the most sought after RC auto from 2016 now being faked. Most Dak Prescott autographs in 2016 Prizm are fake and Panini has owned up to it. That's great, but it's too late and these mistakes are happening too often. In May, we had the Takkarist McKinley drama, now we have the same situation with Dak Prescott. When will it stop? It WON'T stop unless we show Panini that we aren't stupid and we aren't taking it anymore. The only way to show them is to NOT buy Panini products anymore. Hurt them where it's hurt us: Their Bank Accounts. Vote with your dollar and let Panini know that you've screwed us collectors over for the last time. Breakers, PLEASE JOIN US! This movement doesn't get off the ground if it doesn't have your support. No more bulk shipments of Panini products. No more case breaks, group breaks or mixers with Panini products. The more you buy Panini, the more it shows them that YOU are OKAY with giving your customers fake autographs and fake relics. Collectors, no single, no boxes, no group breaks or anything that involves Panini. It's time we get serious about this and it's time we let Panini know that they haven't earned our money. They don't respect us by doing right by us as collectors, we don't buy their non-authentic products. The more you buy Panini, the more you are letting them know that YOU are OKAY with buying fake relics and fake autographs. If we ALL come together and work together and follow through, maybe, just maybe, something will change. This is the ONLY way things will change. Enough words, let's put some actions behind them!! Who's with me?!?! __________________ Let's all play nice with respect from both sides.

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07-10-2017, 08:24 AM	#12
cowboyzqna Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Moundridge KS Posts: 9,265 cowboyzqna	Group breaking is a machine right now... I remember back when it was on youtube and it took a week to fill a break lol. Group breakers are getting paid... some are literally breaking a million dollars of product a year. (An educated guess... 2k a night would be over 700k... you do the math... we have all seen 50 thousand dollar nights when NT first comes out) Panini knows this. They don't need to do right by the collectors... people love to gamble (I am a huge proponent of group breaks myself... great fun for 50 bucks) Don't stress it man. It is what it is. __________________ I am a Lucky Man

07-10-2017, 08:11 AM	#5
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 79,413 shiller13	Sucks you are forced to buy products you don't want to get the good ones. Pretty messed up

07-10-2017, 08:23 AM	#10
Ray27Ray52 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 22,676	Breakers are never going to stop breaking. This is how they make money. You aren't going to convince them to stop trying to make money.

07-10-2017, 08:33 AM	#21
Branesergen Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Montgomery Texas Posts: 6,908 Branesergen	See heres the thing with me, this might actually get traction but the over-exaggerations is is what kills it. There are quite a few things you could be using but you're going with "If you support fake autos and fake patches"? You're talking about a 0.01% of an entire years worth of product being "faked". So 5000 (a very generous number) out of how many hundreds of thousands of autos released brand wide in 2016 were "faked". 50 patches out of how many hundreds of thousands of patches released brand wide were "faked". OMG everything is fake! And you support fake if you buy Panini!!!!!!111!11!!! I get what you're trying to do, I really do, but talking like a child throws a temper tantrum is not how to get things done. Well maybe it is in this New America.... If you were to put together a solid case of why people should be boycotting Panini you might just sway some people to follow. But over-exaggerated claims and "poopnini this, poopnini that" just makes you look foolish in my eyes and I would never support your cause.