1992 Star Pics SNL Autographs - A Lesson In Forgeries *LONG*

[charnick]

I became a HUGE fan of this set once I learned of its existence, but there's a dearth of information out there about it. When I decided to start collecting them, I knew I had to do as much research as possible and share that knowledge with anyone else that might be interested. Star Pics autos are notorious for being easy to forge, but armed with this knowledge, collectors can make educated purchasing decisions. I hope to demonstrate how the forgeries differ from authentic copies, and how to tell the difference using known fakes as examples.

Please note, much of the info in this post is my opinion only, and I feel I've made educated conclusions. As Star Pics no longer exists, and there's so little official documentation out there, there is a certainly a chance I am incorrect about some things. Just had to put that out there, and hope to start a dialogue with anyone who's interested.

A little background. In 1992, Star Pics released a set covering SNL's history. As part of the set, there were 12 autographs released. Like other Star Pics autographs from other product lines, these cards were all signed on the back of base cards with an authentication sticker attached with the initials of the authenticator. A quick search on eBay and you can see these autos from a variety of sports and pop culture sets that Star Pics released in the early 90's.

The SNL autograph set contains the following signers: Tim Meadows, Chris Rock, Julia Sweeney, Ellen Cleghorne, Kevin Nealon, Phil Hartman (RIP), Chris Farley (RIP), Rob Schneider, Mike Myers, Al Franken, Adam Sandler, & GE Smith. There is still some debate as to whether these were packed out, or dealer incentives, and I've found no information to determine which of those might be true. There is an estimated dozen of each card in existence, but again, that number has never been confirmed. Another point of contention is how they were signed, with a specific signing party most commonly mentioned. All the cards were signed in the same color with the same thickness of pen, so it is likely they were all signed at the same time, possibly all at once in the same place.

A web search provided images of known authentic copies, posted many years ago:




You can see how the autographs of the same subjects are extremely similar on both sets, all signed with similar pens. They all have the same authentication sticker (with the exception of Kevin Nealon, more on that later), placed in the same general area on the cards. Comparing the autos to known exemplars (primarily through PSA/DNA listings on eBay, also a lot more on that later), they all seem to match as well. It is for this reason that I believe these copies to be legit and will be using them as exemplars moving forward.

The Chris Farley and the Phil Hartman cards are two of the most sought after, as we lost these legends too soon. The Farley is specifically forged frequently. Here are some obvious fakes that are floating around on eBay and elsewhere:



This one is too obvious. legit Star Pics autos are NEVER signed on the front, and certainly not with an authentication sticker. Also know that these stickers are apparently VERY easy to remove without any damage, which is one of the reasons why Star Pics autos are frequently forged. If you're looking to pick one up, I recommend purchasing a very low-end autograph on COMC or eBay that has no added value from forgery and using that to examine up-close and in person. I was lucky enough to have a pack pulled auto from their 1991 Hockey Draft Pick set that I pulled myself as a kid to use for comparison. So again: sig on front=forgery.

Here are two more front-signed Farley forgeries:




Both clearly signed in the same hand, but again, any Star Pics auto with the signature on the front is fake 100% of the time. Also a good time to mention that all the legit copies were signed on the same base card (with a possible exception, coming up), and the Farley's are always signed on the Chippendales card.

About 2 years ago, a very well known, ethical seller posted a PSA/DNA authenticated copy of the Chris Farley card in a blue flip. I immediately jumped on it and resubmitted it to PSA/DNA to get it in a red flip, as that's what I prefer in my collection. Here is a copy of that card:



When I got it back from PSA/DNA in the red flip, I took the time to closely examine it and it raised some concerns. First the autograph looks nothing like the two known copies shown above. The pen color and thickness is accurate, but there are many differences, such as the angle of the signature in relation to the card, the roundness of the loops in the last name, plus the sticker is crooked (although of the same initials), and covering the auto, which doesn't happen in any of the other examples. Plus when I had the chance to really get up close I noticed this:



Extremely difficult to see in the scan, there is a place in the Y in Farley where the pen was lifted up and placed back down. The arrow points to this mark, and you can kind of see where the Y begins to come down to toward the lower left and after about 2mm, begins to come straight down instead. It was very well placed, and easy to miss unless you look at it in the light where you can see the pen mark from being placed back down. It was because of this, I decided to move on from it.

As a personal aside, I have had a crisis of conscience about this card every since I moved it. It is still slabbed as authentic by PSA/DNA of course, and as I didn't see it signed, I cannot be 100% sure. But there were enough signs to me to think PSA/DNA messed up here, and I should have contacted PSA/DNA about it, but without proof, and no expert standing, I decided to sell it anyway. It still worries me to think I passed along a fake, but if this is a forgery, it's the best one out there, unfortunately.

A little over a year ago, another eBay seller posted a near full set of these, and I was went on to win the Sandler, Schneider, Nealon, Hartman and Mike Myers. Also for sale at the same time were Al Franken and Julia Sweeney. I lost those, and didn't save the images, but they matched the examples above almost exactly.

I went on to submit these four to PSA/DNA and they all came back as authentic except the Myers.






Note that the Kevin Nealon autograph matches the example pic almost exactly, although the sticker has different initials. So now we have established that maybe not all the cards that are real have "JB" initials, there might be an "RMR" out there too.



The Mike Myers card did NOT pass PSA/DNA, but the autos are strikingly similar to the examples. Plus, the sticker matches, isn't crooked, and is placed in the same general area. Except one thing, it's not on a Wayne's World card like the others, but rather a Dieter/Sprockets card. So now we have another mystery, if there's possibility of a legit version on a different card. All the others passed with flying colors, and all came from the same seller at the same time, so there's no reason other than that to believe it's not real. More obvious Mike Myers cards have shown up as fake since I purchased it, such as this one:



The auto is similar to the known legits, but streaky, and more importantly, without an authentication sticker at all! Lazy forger! I believe this one was faked after the Mike Myers was listed, as it's also on a Sprockets card, but perhaps the forger couldn't get a sticker. This is still being relisted on eBay even now, with no takers, which is a good sign.

Back to the Chris Farley. Another seller listed a raw copy about 8 months ago, and I grabbed that one too after it checked all the boxes:



Auto matches the others in angle, placement, color and thickness, and the authentication sticker is consistent and placed properly.
This card was also sent to PSA/DNA as well, if only to match the slabs of my other cards, so I can display them all consistently. It failed. Twice. This leads me to believe that PSA/DNA is using the other card as an exemplar, and I believe that one to be a fake, it only makes sense they would fail mine, or any other legit version. I found a way around it though, and had a custom frame made where I have my Hartman with the flip covered, and the Farley in a one-touch.



I may one day submit it to BAS, but I'm in no rush to do so at the moment, especially with how BGS has been running their operation this year.

So there you have it. This is what I've learned so far, and I guess the conclusion is there are ways to tell obvious forgeries from the rest, but there are a couple of inconsistencies, even in seemingly authentic copies, that nothing is a sure thing when it comes to 1992 Star Pics SNL autos. But the ink always tells all, and if you're looking to collect these, do your research, look at other known exemplars of any subject's autograph, and make your own educated decisions. Happy to answer any and all questions you may have, and I'll try to answer them to the best of my ability! Thanks for reading!

UPDATE (4/30/18): Just wanted to add a couple of pictures of the latest additions... I was finally able to get PSA to give my Chris Farley a thumbs up, I think the key was to submit at an in-person, take-home authentication event, as I dropped it off for same-day service at the Long Beach Expo. I have a full LOA for it now, but also had them slab it. Also slabbed was a new submission for the previously discovered Tim Meadows, which checks off all the boxes compared to the known samples above, that I acquired through the original owner on the Autograph Magazine Live forums.

Note that PSA, in its infinite wisdom, has decided they will no longer slab these SNL autos with the auto facing forward. I tried to have them reslab them, after the request had already been approved, but their Operation Manager has decided that - to quote customer service - "The Sealing team is under strict orders to not consider this request." No other explanation given, and no apology either after they previously approved the request.

Oh well.




UPDATE (11/16/19): eBay seller curveballsportscards2017, an LCS in Pinconning, Michigan recently had a Farley, a Hartman and a Myers for sale, listed as (they claim) consignments from sellers who used to own an LCS in the area in 1990's who claimed to have pulled these cards in their store at the time:

Chris Farley: https://www.ebay.com/itm/293205838582
Mike Myers: https://www.ebay.com/itm/293205842256
Phil Hartman: https://www.ebay.com/itm/293205840733

Comparing these three cards to the others in this post, and other known authentic autographs, I believe all of them to be authentic. The Myers is on a Sprockets card, like the one listed above that I had in my possession earlier, which failed PSA/DNA. That very same card ended up getting JSA authentication on it, and was sold on COMC quite some time ago:

https://www.comc.com/Cards/Non-Sport...ed/COA_Sticker

Why they listed it as an "Aftermarket Auto" in the URL is beyond me, but comparing the two together, along with the earlier known Wayne's World versions, I now believe the Sprockets cards to be authentic, and that PSA/DNA clearly made an error here, which they have been known to do on far too many occasions. I purchased this new Myers discovery, and it now sits proudly in my collection as raw. I will not be sending this in to PSA/DNA, and quite frankly, with their role in the current trimming scandals, I hesitate to ever do business with them again until they clean up their act.



The Farley sold to a member of this board based my recommendation that it was authentic, and that member provided these images for further reference:



The Hartman did not sell by curveballsportscards2017, and is now back up for sale at a lower price by ebay seller cbcollect-47 in Saginaw, MI. This could be a second account for the LCS, or perhaps the original consigners relisting it themselves. If you're in the market for these, I believe it to be authentic, and if authentication is your jam, I'd be hard pressed to see how PSA/DNA would NOT slab this one, it's a dead ringer for mine that they did grade and authenticate.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/383267606356

UPDATE (12/18/21): Adding images of known real autos of Chris Farley and Phil Hartman, these two sold at Goldin Auctions this past summer 2021.

[jrfillini]

Nice post.

I was on the hunt for a Farley a few years ago and got close to buying one, but ultimately chickened out for the reasons that you listed. There was a complete auto set listed maybe two years ago for ~$1800 from a guy with some connection to Star Pics that was so so tempting. I'll probably end up never getting one because there are just so many fakes out there and the professionals seem to have a hard time figuring out what is legit. Too bad, because I'd love to have one in my collection.

Cool display you've got there!

[jdandns]

Yeah, the thousands and thousands of 25 cent Star Pics autos from their various sports draft cards sets from those same years have unfortunately led to a virtually endless supply of those gold stickers. Beyond helping to sell SNL and Twin Peaks forged cards as authentic, they are also often used on a StarPic Brett Favre draft pick cards for the same sinister ends.

I actually have a double signed Wayne's World 8x10 I know to be authentic with Myers (and Carvey) on it, and boy, that (top) Myers you've shown does look good. I've always wanted some of these cards, so I've probably opened about 15 boxes of these over the years, including several when they were newly issued, Never found one, but the production run WAS mammoth, so if there are only, 100 or so from all the signers combined, that would be a tough pull indeed.

Do you have the Phil Hartman Inkworks Small Soldiers Tribute card? He planned to sign for that set, but was murdered before he did. The already designed auto card was turned into a lovely memorial card. It ultimately wasn't issued in packs but some got out when Inkworks went out of business.

[89Giants]

Nice read. Funny I just had Nealon sign his card when I met him last week, I was super stoked!

[CollectorMan]

One of the greatest sets ever produced.

[byronscott4ever]

This is a favorite set of mine as well. If someone decided to make an SNL set today, they could do autos of so many people, from beginning to end. Cast members, musicians, guest hosts, Lorne Michaels, etc.

I found a checklist online of which cards supposedly were signed:
9 Al Franker
18 Julia Sweeny
19 Rob Schneider
27 Mike Myers
33 Chris Rock
47 Chris Farley
53 Adam Sandler
58 G.E. Smith
83 Phil Hartman
89 Tim Meadows
130 Kevin Nealon
131 Ellen Cleghorn
131 Ellen Cleghorn - Signed as Queen Shenequa.

I have purchased a few boxes and never hit an auto. Frankly, I think the autos weren't inserted because they missed getting back and in the packs. That's a hunch because for a while, I asked every seller of any of these where they got the card and no one said it came from a pack. I believe one or two said that Star Pics sold them cheap when they went bankrupt. That makes sense.

I have two auto inserts and bought them for next to nothing on ebay so I'm not sweating it a great deal (of course, I hope they are real). I have enjoyed getting them signed IP since the set came out.

[GUCD231]

Great read! I can appreciate the depths a collector will go to uncover information that was never made readily available. I believe half the fun of collecting great sets like yours is the detective work and satisfaction of knowing exactly what you have. The PSA exemplar theory is valid. While PSA is helpful I would trust my gut as you did when deciding if it was authentic or not.

[BuffyCollector]

There has been a bunch of Twin Peaks fakes on eBay recently. It's so hard to collect these sets.

[charnick]

Originally Posted by jrfillini

Nice post.

I was on the hunt for a Farley a few years ago and got close to buying one, but ultimately chickened out for the reasons that you listed. There was a complete auto set listed maybe two years ago for ~$1800 from a guy with some connection to Star Pics that was so so tempting. I'll probably end up never getting one because there are just so many fakes out there and the professionals seem to have a hard time figuring out what is legit. Too bad, because I'd love to have one in my collection.

Cool display you've got there!

Thanks! I'd rather have the Farley & Hartman on display in my case with the rest of the ones I have, but thanks PSA... I've heard about that complete set sale from old forum posts elsewhere, but never found it on Worthpoint, but I think the images I found (the first one in the post) are from that sale.

That's the main reason I decided to make this post and share the knowledge I've culled over the past three years, in case anyone else wanted to collect them too. So much modern day stuff on the NS forum, and for good reason, but the older stuff often gets forgotten, and I wanted to make sure there was something out there for people to reference. If you ever come across one and are considering purchasing it, by all means share here or get in touch, and I'll try to help out as much as I can regarding authenticity! Don't let the forgers get you down!

Originally Posted by jdandns

Yeah, the thousands and thousands of 25 cent Star Pics autos from their various sports draft cards sets from those same years have unfortunately led to a virtually endless supply of those gold stickers. Beyond helping to sell SNL and Twin Peaks forged cards as authentic, they are also often used on a StarPic Brett Favre draft pick cards for the same sinister ends.

I actually have a double signed Wayne's World 8x10 I know to be authentic with Myers (and Carvey) on it, and boy, that (top) Myers you've shown does look good. I've always wanted some of these cards, so I've probably opened about 15 boxes of these over the years, including several when they were newly issued, Never found one, but the production run WAS mammoth, so if there are only, 100 or so from all the signers combined, that would be a tough pull indeed.

Do you have the Phil Hartman Inkworks Small Soldiers Tribute card? He planned to sign for that set, but was murdered before he did. The already designed auto card was turned into a lovely memorial card. It ultimately wasn't issued in packs but some got out when Inkworks went out of business.

Yes, the Brett Favre card is probably the most forged Star Pics card, followed by the Chris Farley. There's definitely no shortage of stickers out there on legit low-end cards, but hopefully with more age and time passing by they'll be harder and harder to remove without showing some sign of tampering. If only Star Pics has made them like price tag stickers where they rip as you remove them, that might have helped.

I'm still very confident the Myers shown is real, though being on a different base card, I can see why PSA/DNA would instantly fail it if they used the card number as a criterion. It doesn't strain credulity to me to think a Star Pics rep didn't bring enough Wayne's World cards with them to the signing, or maybe they showed Mike all his cards, and he signed that one by accident. We'll never know, but the ink certainly feels right.

If print run estimates are to be believed, there are millions of each base card, and if only a dozen or so of each were signed, well, these would be harder to pull than just about any other pack-pulled autograph from the era, like the Upper Deck Ted Williams or Mickey Mantle, or even more rare than a 1990 Topps Frank Thomas NNOF error. If you ever decide to collect these, patience would most certainly have to be a virtue!

I know I've seen the Phil Hartman Inkworks card, in another thread I was in, but thanks Photobucket for sucking and disabling 3rd party hosting. If you have a scan or a link to one, I'd love to host it myself and add it to the post for reference!

Originally Posted by 89Giants

Nice read. Funny I just had Nealon sign his card when I met him last week, I was super stoked!

Aw man, what timing! That must have been a fun experience! If I had posted this earlier, I could have asked you to see if he remembered signing these... I know these guys have signed thousands of autographs in their life, and why remember something like this, but I always figured if there was a particular signing party or event behind these, they might have a vague recollection. It was early in most of their careers, and I would hope being asked and paid to sign some trading cards just as you're getting big could be a memory that would stick out with them. I actually used to work for Happy Madison, and every year at the company holiday party, I was always dying to ask him about these, but never had the chance, plus it's not exactly scintillating cocktail party conversation!

Originally Posted by CollectorMan

One of the greatest sets ever produced.

Most definitely! The designs are soooo 90's and the set covers the entire run of the show up to 1992. Even if you don't go for the autos, base sets are as cheap as can be and make for a fun addition to anyone's collection!

[jdandns]

Sure, I can post the tribute to Hartman here if you'd like, next time I'm on my laptop.

As for the SNL base cards, have you happened across any error cards? I has been a LONG time since I looked at mine, but I remember getting a "wrong back" out of a pack at least once.

[charnick]

Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

This is a favorite set of mine as well. If someone decided to make an SNL set today, they could do autos of so many people, from beginning to end. Cast members, musicians, guest hosts, Lorne Michaels, etc.

I found a checklist online of which cards supposedly were signed:
9 Al Franker
18 Julia Sweeny
19 Rob Schneider
27 Mike Myers
33 Chris Rock
47 Chris Farley
53 Adam Sandler
58 G.E. Smith
83 Phil Hartman
89 Tim Meadows
130 Kevin Nealon
131 Ellen Cleghorn
131 Ellen Cleghorn - Signed as Queen Shenequa.

I have purchased a few boxes and never hit an auto. Frankly, I think the autos weren't inserted because they missed getting back and in the packs. That's a hunch because for a while, I asked every seller of any of these where they got the card and no one said it came from a pack. I believe one or two said that Star Pics sold them cheap when they went bankrupt. That makes sense.

I have two auto inserts and bought them for next to nothing on ebay so I'm not sweating it a great deal (of course, I hope they are real). I have enjoyed getting them signed IP since the set came out.

Thanks SO much for sharing this! Do you mind sharing the link where you found this checklist? I never found one myself in my research, or if I did, it must have been early in the game, and I can no longer find it. That was my only concern with writing this post, is that in the beginning I didn't save every image or link I found when I most definitely should have. Trying to use this post as a central repository of information so future collectors can find it easily and all in one place. I see the Myers is definitely listed as the Wayne World card, so the mystery continues there... I mean, if that one is SOOOO perfectly forged, why haven't others ever shown up on the market from the same source somehow?

You might be right about them not getting packed out, as I suggested, no seller I ever spoke said they got one from a pack either. That could also potentially explain the different authentication stickers on the pictured Kevin Nealon and Chris Rock cards (first two in the post). If they had these in their vault without stickers, they could have quickly slapped others on their once they went bankrupt and had their assets acquired by someone else. The ink is consistent, both compared to other cards and other certified authentic memorabilia so I don't believe them to be forgeries.

Do you mind me asking which two you have and could share pics? The more we can identify and display here in the post, the more educated we can be when these do come up for sale. Are yours possibly the Al Franken & Julia Sweeney? Those were the two I lost when I found the others, and IIRC, they did go for pretty good prices.

Originally Posted by GUCD231

Great read! I can appreciate the depths a collector will go to uncover information that was never made readily available. I believe half the fun of collecting great sets like yours is the detective work and satisfaction of knowing exactly what you have. The PSA exemplar theory is valid. While PSA is helpful I would trust my gut as you did when deciding if it was authentic or not.

Thanks for the kind words! The first time my Farley failed, I figured it could just be a "standard" mistake if you can call it that (most Farley autos I've seen with PSA/DNA are late in his career, rushed IP versions, while these are early and all signed in a controlled environment). The second time it failed (good money after bad, *sigh*), I figured they just HAD to be using the original bad one as a specific Star Pics exemplar.

Originally Posted by BuffyCollector

There has been a bunch of Twin Peaks fakes on eBay recently. It's so hard to collect these sets.

The Twin Peaks is another set in the same boat as these for sure. Early in my research, I had found a long article writing about those, but almost nothing about these, so I felt compelled to share my knowledge with others as we continue to try to piece together the facts as best as possible. These are too cool to be forgotten to the ages, and left to the forgers!

[charnick]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Sure, I can post the tribute to Hartman here if you'd like, next time I'm on my laptop.

As for the SNL base cards, have you happened across any error cards? I has been a LONG time since I looked at mine, but I remember getting a "wrong back" out of a pack at least once.

Would LOVE to see it again, it's a neat card from what I remember. I have a base set of these without autos and haven't yet seen a wrong back, but from how many they must have printed, plus seeing a ton of errors like that in early 90's baseball cards, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see some sort of printing errors out there.

[jdandns]

[byronscott4ever]

[QUOTE=charnick;12548494]Thanks SO much for sharing this! Do you mind sharing the link where you found this checklist? I never found one myself in my research, or if I did, it must have been early in the game, and I can no longer find it. That was my only concern with writing this post, is that in the beginning I didn't save every image or link I found when I most definitely should have. Trying to use this post as a central repository of information so future collectors can find it easily and all in one place. I see the Myers is definitely listed as the Wayne World card, so the mystery continues there... I mean, if that one is SOOOO perfectly forged, why haven't others ever shown up on the market from the same source somehow?

You might be right about them not getting packed out, as I suggested, no seller I ever spoke said they got one from a pack either. That could also potentially explain the different authentication stickers on the pictured Kevin Nealon and Chris Rock cards (first two in the post). If they had these in their vault without stickers, they could have quickly slapped others on their once they went bankrupt and had their assets acquired by someone else. The ink is consistent, both compared to other cards and other certified authentic memorabilia so I don't believe them to be forgeries.

Do you mind me asking which two you have and could share pics? The more we can identify and display here in the post, the more educated we can be when these do come up for sale. Are yours possibly the Al Franken & Julia Sweeney? Those were the two I lost when I found the others, and IIRC, they did go for pretty good prices.[\quote]

I found it but didn't relocate but found this one which I tried to find originally. I did not compare this to my original list:

http://www.nslists.com/satnite.htm

I have Myers and Nealon, bought in a lot over 15 years ago at a terrific price.

[charnick]

Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

I found it but didn't relocate but found this one which I tried to find originally. I did not compare this to my original list:

http://www.nslists.com/satnite.htm

I have Myers and Nealon, bought in a lot over 15 years ago at a terrific price.

This is great info, thanks for sharing! I'll definitely save an archive of that page for posterity.

If you've had your cards that long, would have to think there's a great shot at them being good for sure, especially if they match up with these pics.

[charnick]

Here's a new Tim Meadows to surface that I received from a trusted member of the AML forums. There's some wear on the sticker, and the angle is a little crooked, but the general placement lines up pretty well. It's been in a PC for years, so the wear can be explained by that but if I were purchasing, I would be weary. Most importantly, the ink seems to line up, though the pen is streaking. It's not the best example, but I do believe this to be genuine.

[THSN]

Originally Posted by charnick

Thanks for the kind words! The first time my Farley failed, I figured it could just be a "standard" mistake if you can call it that (most Farley autos I've seen with PSA/DNA are late in his career, rushed IP versions, while these are early and all signed in a controlled environment). The second time it failed (good money after bad, *sigh*), I figured they just HAD to be using the original bad one as a specific Star Pics exemplar.

Excellent, excellent work and a great read.

Is there any chance PSA/DNA would share a picture of its exemplar with you? I guess if they considered the only solid photo, they wouldn't want other authenticators getting their hands on it, but seems like you might be a good enough customer they'd trust you to keep it private.

[charnick]

Originally Posted by THSN

Excellent, excellent work and a great read.

Is there any chance PSA/DNA would share a picture of its exemplar with you? I guess if they considered the only solid photo, they wouldn't want other authenticators getting their hands on it, but seems like you might be a good enough customer they'd trust you to keep it private.

Thanks for the kind words! I guess it couldn't hurt to get in touch with them and see what I can come up with. Like I mentioned in the article, I do wish I had contacted them back when I had the fake in my possession, it would be much easier to show them where the pen was lifted, and I bet the would have reversed their decision. And I even live only about 30 mins away from their offices, I could even have shown them in person. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20, but it couldn't hurt to see if they'd be willing to listen.

[charnick]

UPDATE (4/30/18): Just wanted to add a couple of pictures of the latest additions... I was finally able to get PSA to give my Chris Farley a thumbs up, I think the key was to submit at an in-person, take-home authentication event, as I dropped it off for same-day service at the Long Beach Expo. I have a full LOA for it now, but also had them slab it. Also slabbed was a new submission for the previously discovered Tim Meadows, which checks off all the boxes compared to the known samples above, that I acquired through the original owner on the Autograph Magazine Live forums.

Note that PSA, in its infinite wisdom, has decided they will no longer slab these SNL autos with the auto facing forward. I tried to have them reslab them, after the request had already been approved, but their Operation Manager has decided that - to quote customer service - "The Sealing team is under strict orders to not consider this request." No other explanation given, and no apology either after they previously approved the request.

Oh well.

[webjon]

Congratulations, great cards!

[charnick]

Thanks Jon! Took a while, but we got there!

[nbalinks]

Awesome collection!

[charnick]

UPDATE (11/16/19): eBay seller curveballsportscards2017, an LCS in Pinconning, Michigan recently had a Farley, a Hartman and a Myers for sale, listed as (they claim) consignments from sellers who used to own an LCS in the area in 1990's who claimed to have pulled these cards in their store at the time:

Chris Farley: https://www.ebay.com/itm/293205838582
Mike Myers: https://www.ebay.com/itm/293205842256
Phil Hartman: https://www.ebay.com/itm/293205840733

Comparing these three cards to the others in this post, and other known authentic autographs, I believe all of them to be authentic. The Myers is on a Sprockets card, like the one listed above that I had in my possession earlier, which failed PSA/DNA. That very same card ended up getting JSA authentication on it, and was sold on COMC quite some time ago:

https://www.comc.com/Cards/Non-Sport...ed/COA_Sticker

Why they listed it as an "Aftermarket Auto" in the URL is beyond me, but comparing the two together, along with the earlier known Wayne's World versions, I now believe the Sprockets cards to be authentic, and that PSA/DNA clearly made an error here, which they have been known to do on far too many occasions. I purchased this new Myers discovery, and it now sits proudly in my collection as raw. I will not be sending this in to PSA/DNA, and quite frankly, with their role in the current trimming scandals, I hesitate to ever do business with them again until they clean up their act.



The Farley sold to a member of this board based my recommendation that it was authentic, and that member provided these images for further reference:



The Hartman did not sell by curveballsportscards2017, and is now back up for sale at a lower price by ebay seller cbcollect-47 in Saginaw, MI. This could be a second account for the LCS, or perhaps the original consigners relisting it themselves. If you're in the market for these, I believe it to be authentic, and if authentication is your jam, I'd be hard pressed to see how PSA/DNA would NOT slab this one, it's a dead ringer for mine that they did grade and authenticate.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/383267606356

[rittdk01]

I bought a case of this about ten years ago and got nothing. It was super tedious opening that many cards.

[charnick]

Originally Posted by rittdk01

I bought a case of this about ten years ago and got nothing. It was super tedious opening that many cards.

The current rumors has it at just a dozen or so of each of the auto cards... in a 90's junk wax case, it's not a needle in a haystack, it's a grain of sand on the beach!