Official 2018 New England Patriots Thread

BostonNut · 02-04-2018, 11:22 PM

Hope Edleman comes back 100%, Butler seems to have ten toes and nine fingers out the door, Dion Lewis needs to be back. I'd take Burkhead back too.

Disappointing for sure but...as spoiled as we are it's hard to dwell on this one. Philly deserved it.

3AND4 · 02-04-2018, 11:24 PM

Who is replacing you O & D coaches? Will that have a big effect?

Dnic · 02-04-2018, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Hope Edleman comes back 100%, Butler seems to have ten toes and nine fingers out the door, Dion Lewis needs to be back. I'd take Burkhead back too.

Disappointing for sure but...as spoiled as we are it's hard to dwell on this one. Philly deserved it.

You guys need a better defense coach first lol

ntgm37 · 02-04-2018, 11:24 PM

I hope Dion and Butler follow Jimmy to SF. Good game and season.

Cavaliercards · 02-04-2018, 11:26 PM

Time for the Red Blob to go and have some new blood in at DC

Bowman1951 · 02-05-2018, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 3AND4

Who is replacing you O & D coaches? Will that have a big effect?

It doesn’t seem to have slowed down the train over the past 15 years with the revolving door at those spots, someone new comes in and the outgoing guy fails miserably at his new HC gig.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

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pac213up · 02-05-2018, 08:35 AM

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You guys need a better defense coach first lol

The defensive coach was top notch. The defensive roster on the other hand....not so much.

pac213up · 02-05-2018, 08:37 AM

Hightower and Edelman back. Offensive is set. Defensively the secondary is fine. Need to add some pass rushers up front on the D line and depth at linebacker. A second TE option is always a good idea as well.

Oldschool42 · 02-05-2018, 09:07 AM

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Hightower and Edelman back. Offensive is set. Defensively the secondary is fine. Need to add some pass rushers up front on the D line and depth at linebacker. A second TE option is always a good idea as well.

Hightower and Bulter were both on the field for the first four games when the Pats got lit up. Pats D has been average at best for a long time, they have never had a lights out Ravens type defense. With Belichick and Patricia as coaches I don’t understand why the Pats D hasn’t been better over the years. Maybe statistically they have been “good” but why aren’t they better? Way too many 3rd and 4th down conversions all year. Does any team fear the Pats D?
The secondary is ok but would be “better” if they had a d line that could pressure the QB and linebackers that could tackle! The run defense was awful last night (164 yards!). When the hell will we have a player that blows up receivers? The best corner will look average if the front 7 isn’t putting pressure on the QB. When the hell will Malcolm Brown make a play? He can’t hold Wilfolks jock. The Pats drafts over the years haven’t been that good and it might be catching up with them.
That being said as long as Brady is Brady the Pats should be in the mix each year.

bojesphob · 02-05-2018, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldschool42

Hightower and Bulter were both on the field for the first four games when the Pats got lit up. Pats D has been average at best for a long time, they have never had a lights out Ravens type defense. With Belichick and Patricia as coaches I don’t understand why the Pats D hasn’t been better over the years. Maybe statistically they have been “good” but why aren’t they better? Way too many 3rd and 4th down conversions all year. Does any team fear the Pats D?
The secondary is ok but would be “better” if they had a d line that could pressure the QB and linebackers that could tackle! The run defense was awful last night (164 yards!). When the hell will we have a player that blows up receivers? The best corner will look average if the front 7 isn’t putting pressure on the QB. When the hell will Malcolm Brown make a play? He can’t hold Wilfolks jock. The Pats drafts over the years haven’t been that good and it might be catching up with them.
That being said as long as Brady is Brady the Pats should be in the mix each year.

Welcome to what Packers fans have been dealing with since 2010.

Cades · 02-05-2018, 09:20 AM

Hightower and Edelman back healthy will be nice.

Agree on bulkhead and Lewis, like to see solder and amendola back as well, but he has bee playing on well above team friendly deals for awhile now, after the playoffs he had I wouldn't be surprised if he wants.to get paid

Brian48 · 02-05-2018, 10:17 AM

Amendola has been restructuring his contract for a few seasons now. He knows he doesn't have much of a market cache right now. It's really more whether the Pats will do him right by keeping a role open for him. As far as Solder is concerned, I would not be surprised if this was his last game. He's got a lot of issues with his infant son battling cancer and may choose to spend more time with his family going forward.

In my gut, I really thought this was the last big opportunity for this current tandem of Brady and Belichick. Sure, the team will be competitive next year, but I don't think they will win another SB together. It's a been a great run, but you can't sustain it forever.

craigjdudley · 02-05-2018, 03:38 PM

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Amendola has been restructuring his contract for a few seasons now. He knows he doesn't have much of a market cache right now. It's really more whether the Pats will do him right by keeping a role open for him. As far as Solder is concerned, I would not be surprised if this was his last game. He's got a lot of issues with his infant son battling cancer and may choose to spend more time with his family going forward.

In my gut, I really thought this was the last big opportunity for this current tandem of Brady and Belichick. Sure, the team will be competitive next year, but I don't think they will win another SB together. It's a been a great run, but you can't sustain it forever.

I agree with you. I won't say the dynasty is over.. but I felt that this was the best shot at ring #6. We're losing both coordinators and I can see some key players leaving as well. That's going to be hard to replace and adjust to. Brady only has so many years left to save this team.

Yes it'll be great having Hightower, Edelman, Cannon, other depth players back. We really need to get help on D, especially the front 7.

Dnic · 02-05-2018, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pac213up

The defensive coach was top notch. The defensive roster on the other hand....not so much.

Watching the games I beg to differ, why does the defense look terrible in the first half and better in the second? Maybe they should change their tactics earlier say in the second quarter? They rely heavily on Brady to keep them in the game that to me doesn't seem like they are in fact the "genius" defensive coaches everyone thinks they are imo....

Bassplayah101 · 02-05-2018, 04:00 PM

Beyond both Josh and Matt leaving, we have a laundry list of free agents this offseason, so there is undoubtedly some work to do.

Amendola
Bolden
Butler
Fleming
Flowers
Lewis
Slater
Solder
Burkhead

Bassplayah101 · 02-05-2018, 04:19 PM

Looks like Greg Schiano is expected to take over as defensive coord. for the Pats.

http://www.12up.com/posts/5969240-br...or?a_aid=40966

ThoseBackPages · 02-05-2018, 04:39 PM

TOM

BRADY

Bassplayah101 · 02-05-2018, 05:20 PM

McDaniels to possibly remain with the Patriots.

https://nesn.com/2018/02/nfl-rumors-...with-patriots/

jjeanius · 02-05-2018, 05:24 PM

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McDaniels to possibly remain with the Patriots.

https://nesn.com/2018/02/nfl-rumors-...with-patriots/

Makes me wonder if he may have some insider information as to when exactly Belichick plans to retire (sooner than later), and McDaniels is patiently waiting to ascend to the throne upon his departure.

Maybe two more years...?

SaveMeTheGum · 02-05-2018, 05:26 PM

I have a bad feeling this Butler issue is going be bad news. We may never know exactly what prompted him being benched, but I do know he probably would have been able to make a play or two that was not made (especially a tackle or two) in a game where it basically came down to one play being made by one of the defenses.

When the players start to realize that this coaching decision could very well have cost them a ring, it could protentially divide the locker room.

Getting beat hurts, but Phili won that game fair and square. They out-coached and out-played the Pats. This whole Butler situation is what really stings.

RedSoxFan28 · 02-05-2018, 07:44 PM

Not watching the video, but was curious what he was going to say today. Never knew throwing for 505 yards, 3 TDs, 115 rating, 88 QBR was declining

Max Kellerman Believes Super Bowl LII Loss Is Proof Tom Brady Is Declining

jasonm2121 · 02-05-2018, 08:05 PM

What a crazy game. Hated to see it play out that way. It never felt like they had it but we all felt pretty good to start the drive, gotta give Philly credit, they played a tad better and seemed to want it more. I gotta think Butler is worth at least one or two third down stops.

jjeanius · 02-05-2018, 08:38 PM

Kellerman is a total clown. He’s going to keep spouting the same nonsense for the next 2 or 3 years until it’s finally (inevitably) true.

jasonm2121 · 02-05-2018, 08:40 PM

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Kellerman is a total clown. He’s going to keep spouting the same nonsense for the next 2 or 3 years until it’s finally (inevitably) true.

What a genius, everyone dies. He is really on to something.

MeteoriteGuy · 02-05-2018, 08:55 PM

Brady Revenge Tour 2.0?

02-04-2018, 11:22 PM	#1
BostonNut Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 60,920	Official 2018 New England Patriots Thread Hope Edleman comes back 100%, Butler seems to have ten toes and nine fingers out the door, Dion Lewis needs to be back. I'd take Burkhead back too. Disappointing for sure but...as spoiled as we are it's hard to dwell on this one. Philly deserved it. __________________ "It's true that whenever rectal issues come to mind thoughts of you aren't far behind" - HairySas September 4, 2025

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Brian48 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 2,244	Amendola has been restructuring his contract for a few seasons now. He knows he doesn't have much of a market cache right now. It's really more whether the Pats will do him right by keeping a role open for him. As far as Solder is concerned, I would not be surprised if this was his last game. He's got a lot of issues with his infant son battling cancer and may choose to spend more time with his family going forward. In my gut, I really thought this was the last big opportunity for this current tandem of Brady and Belichick. Sure, the team will be competitive next year, but I don't think they will win another SB together. It's a been a great run, but you can't sustain it forever.

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Bassplayah101 Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: 1 Patriot Place Posts: 7,993	Beyond both Josh and Matt leaving, we have a laundry list of free agents this offseason, so there is undoubtedly some work to do. Amendola Bolden Butler Fleming Flowers Lewis Slater Solder Burkhead

02-05-2018, 04:19 PM	#16
Bassplayah101 Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: 1 Patriot Place Posts: 7,993	Looks like Greg Schiano is expected to take over as defensive coord. for the Pats. http://www.12up.com/posts/5969240-br...or?a_aid=40966

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02-05-2018, 05:20 PM	#18
Bassplayah101 Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: 1 Patriot Place Posts: 7,993	McDaniels to possibly remain with the Patriots. https://nesn.com/2018/02/nfl-rumors-...with-patriots/

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SaveMeTheGum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NH --> CA --> SC Posts: 16,518 Cardboard_Dynamite CardboardDynamite	I have a bad feeling this Butler issue is going be bad news. We may never know exactly what prompted him being benched, but I do know he probably would have been able to make a play or two that was not made (especially a tackle or two) in a game where it basically came down to one play being made by one of the defenses. When the players start to realize that this coaching decision could very well have cost them a ring, it could protentially divide the locker room. Getting beat hurts, but Phili won that game fair and square. They out-coached and out-played the Pats. This whole Butler situation is what really stings. __________________ Pay fast. Ship fast. Deal with people honestly. IG: CardboardDynamite

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RedSoxFan28 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 12,550	Not watching the video, but was curious what he was going to say today. Never knew throwing for 505 yards, 3 TDs, 115 rating, 88 QBR was declining Max Kellerman Believes Super Bowl LII Loss Is Proof Tom Brady Is Declining __________________ #FreeBrady

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jasonm2121 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: GOAT City Posts: 12,003	What a crazy game. Hated to see it play out that way. It never felt like they had it but we all felt pretty good to start the drive, gotta give Philly credit, they played a tad better and seemed to want it more. I gotta think Butler is worth at least one or two third down stops.

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jjeanius Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Nashvegas Posts: 3,262 comiconart!!	Kellerman is a total clown. He’s going to keep spouting the same nonsense for the next 2 or 3 years until it’s finally (inevitably) true.

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