2017 National Treasures 1/1 Mistake? Found a listing for card on eBay that I own.

My-Coolectibles · 05-02-2018, 07:26 PM

I own this one.

Found this listing on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Dan-Vo...0AAOSwva1a6iv6

Different cards because the signatures don't match.

These are the parallels in the set...

Rookie Materials Signature /99
Rookie Materials Signature Gold /49
Rookie Materials Signature Holo Gold /25
Rookie Materials Signature Holo Silver /10
Rookie Materials Signature Platinum /1
Rookie Materials Signature Printing Plate Cyan /1
Rookie Materials Signature Printing Plate Magenta /1
Rookie Materials Signature Printing Plate Yellow /1
Rookie Materials Signature Printing Plate Black /1
Rookie Materials Signature Brand Logo /1
Rookie Materials Signature Laundry Tag /1

Can the Brand Logo /1 and the Platinum /1 be the same card?

The Accountant · 05-02-2018, 07:56 PM

Hmm I don't know enough but interesting

mrmopar · 05-02-2018, 08:04 PM

Would probably need to compare them side by side to be sure they are not the same exact item. Sometimes the differences between parallels are so subtle that they get missed. Could be one has holographic foil and one is regular or one is a slightly different color than the other. Lastly, it could be a dupe that was accidentally released twice.

LCM1223 · 05-02-2018, 08:07 PM

Has to be Brand and Platinum no other possible explanation unless manufacturing error

My-Coolectibles · 05-02-2018, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmopar

Would probably need to compare them side by side to be sure they are not the same exact item. Sometimes the differences between parallels are so subtle that they get missed. Could be one has holographic foil and one is regular or one is a slightly different color than the other. Lastly, it could be a dupe that was accidentally released twice.

Mine is holographic with the shine. The other one looks like it too. According to the checklist, there's only two cards that this can be...the 1/1 Platinum and the 1/1 Brand Logo. It seems silly to make it with the same patch.

Bassplayah101 · 05-02-2018, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by My-Coolectibles

Mine is holographic with the shine. The other one looks like it too. According to the checklist, there's only two cards that this can be...the 1/1 Platinum and the 1/1 Brand Logo. It seems silly to make it with the same patch.

Were talking about Panini here.

Big35Hurt · 05-02-2018, 08:19 PM

To make matters worse, they forgot to include the logos and full team name. Sorry man.

metallicalex777 · 05-03-2018, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by My-Coolectibles

Mine is holographic with the shine. The other one looks like it too. According to the checklist, there's only two cards that this can be...the 1/1 Platinum and the 1/1 Brand Logo. It seems silly to make it with the same patch.

I'm pretty sure they goofed and duplicated the Majestic patch in both the Brand logo and Platinum 1/1s for Vogelbach. This doesn't prove that, but here are 2 other current examples I was able to find between listed and completed eBay listings. You can see both versions of Derek Fisher and Dinelson Lamet that I put together for reference for the Brand Logo and Platinum Logo versions. Sucks that Panini didn't articulate any verbiage on these on the front/back:

Haze28 · 05-03-2018, 02:11 PM

Do you have a pic of the backs of both cards? One might be the laundry tag 1/1 but they messed up the swatch.

metallicalex777 · 05-03-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Haze28

Do you have a pic of the backs of both cards? One might be the laundry tag 1/1 but they messed up the swatch.

It doesn't look like the back nor the front distinguish laundry tag from platinum from brand logo.

psd2k10 · 05-03-2018, 05:00 PM

this is what happens for collecting Panini. Never understood wanting to collect cards that dont have the MLB license but to each his own.

lauriontj · 05-03-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by psd2k10

this is what happens for collecting Panini. Never understood wanting to collect cards that dont have the MLB license but to each his own.

Because player collectors like myself will collect anything with our player on it. I wish everyone would stop with the no license thing. Some of us like it, and some of us don’t. I don’t collect cards for the logos, I collect cards for the players that are on it.

RYBOWSKI97 · 05-03-2018, 08:09 PM

Panini making multiple 1/1s .....no they dont do that. Hope u figure it out, looks to me like u guys has 1/2's

joshua.roundtre · 05-03-2018, 11:38 PM

Why are the best looking cards produced, the ones without logos?

I'm guessing they had logo patches from both arms and made both 1/1s. You can tell that they are two different cards.

However I just had something similar happen on my Didi Gregorius Topps Chrome Gold Refractor Autograph #13/50 on eBay. I'm guessing the other seller used my title or something, but changed the scans because his clearly shows #4x/50 on the back scan.

ninjacookies · 05-03-2018, 11:50 PM

Definitely different cards, as the D on the other card has streaks while yours doesn't.

Way to go, Panini. Probably issued that as a replacement for a damaged Andrelton Simmons auto.

Zeldafanatic15 · 05-04-2018, 07:37 AM

I pulled this in a group break a while back from NT 2017 FB, technically it's the BLUE 1/1, see how the name is in blue foil? Yeah, that's the difference. Apparently they have 1/1s that have prime pieces, but according to Panini CS, because I asked, the Giants uniforms have a lack of good patches, so they used the number.

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Craiggysanford · 05-04-2018, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lauriontj

Because player collectors like myself will collect anything with our player on it. I wish everyone would stop with the no license thing. Some of us like it, and some of us don’t. I don’t collect cards for the logos, I collect cards for the players that are on it.

TRUTH!

notoriousrmb · 05-04-2018, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lauriontj

Because player collectors like myself will collect anything with our player on it. I wish everyone would stop with the no license thing. Some of us like it, and some of us don’t. I don’t collect cards for the logos, I collect cards for the players that are on it.

This exactly. Not sure why people have to say "Look no logos!" in every Panini thread, its not news and just makes you look petty.

I collect Panini cards too for my player, many of them look nicer than photoshopped Bowman cards but no one complains about that in every Topps thread...

05-02-2018, 07:56 PM	#2
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joshua.roundtre Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,147 ltjlosersnkings ltjlosersnkings	Why are the best looking cards produced, the ones without logos? I'm guessing they had logo patches from both arms and made both 1/1s. You can tell that they are two different cards. However I just had something similar happen on my Didi Gregorius Topps Chrome Gold Refractor Autograph #13/50 on eBay. I'm guessing the other seller used my title or something, but changed the scans because his clearly shows #4x/50 on the back scan. __________________ Better lives have been lived in the margins, locked in prisons, and lost on the gallows then have ever been enshrined in palaces.

05-02-2018, 07:26 PM	#1
My-Coolectibles Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,172 My-Coolectibles MyCoolectibles	2017 National Treasures 1/1 Mistake? Found a listing for card on eBay that I own. I own this one. Found this listing on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Dan-Vo...0AAOSwva1a6iv6 Different cards because the signatures don't match. These are the parallels in the set... Rookie Materials Signature /99 Rookie Materials Signature Gold /49 Rookie Materials Signature Holo Gold /25 Rookie Materials Signature Holo Silver /10 Rookie Materials Signature Platinum /1 Rookie Materials Signature Printing Plate Cyan /1 Rookie Materials Signature Printing Plate Magenta /1 Rookie Materials Signature Printing Plate Yellow /1 Rookie Materials Signature Printing Plate Black /1 Rookie Materials Signature Brand Logo /1 Rookie Materials Signature Laundry Tag /1 Can the Brand Logo /1 and the Platinum /1 be the same card?

05-02-2018, 08:04 PM	#3
mrmopar Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 406	Would probably need to compare them side by side to be sure they are not the same exact item. Sometimes the differences between parallels are so subtle that they get missed. Could be one has holographic foil and one is regular or one is a slightly different color than the other. Lastly, it could be a dupe that was accidentally released twice.

05-02-2018, 08:07 PM	#4
LCM1223 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 26,542 lucards1295	Has to be Brand and Platinum no other possible explanation unless manufacturing error __________________ Total Topps BUNT Profits: $1614.49 KICK: $3243.82 HUDDLE: $300.22 STAR WARS CARD TRADER: $2899.57 STAR WARS FORCE COLLECTION: $1318.14 TWD: $94.09 SKATE: $697.03

05-02-2018, 08:19 PM	#7
Big35Hurt Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9,569	To make matters worse, they forgot to include the logos and full team name. Sorry man.

05-03-2018, 02:11 PM	#9
Haze28 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,017 Hazinaround	Do you have a pic of the backs of both cards? One might be the laundry tag 1/1 but they messed up the swatch.

05-03-2018, 05:00 PM	#11
psd2k10 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,457	this is what happens for collecting Panini. Never understood wanting to collect cards that dont have the MLB license but to each his own.

05-03-2018, 08:09 PM	#13
RYBOWSKI97 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: northeast ohio Posts: 4,450 rybowski97	Panini making multiple 1/1s .....no they dont do that. Hope u figure it out, looks to me like u guys has 1/2's __________________ PC- Jordan, Antoine Walker, Favre, LT, Gooden 80'S-90'S RCS & INSERTS GRADED STAR & HOF RCS Son PC--Trout, Lindor, Westbrook, Lebron, OBJ, B Mayfield, Cleveland teams and OSU players

05-03-2018, 11:50 PM	#15
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 56,871	Definitely different cards, as the D on the other card has streaks while yours doesn't. Way to go, Panini. Probably issued that as a replacement for a damaged Andrelton Simmons auto.

05-04-2018, 07:37 AM	#16
Zeldafanatic15 Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,182 Zeldafanatic15 Zeldafanatic	I pulled this in a group break a while back from NT 2017 FB, technically it's the BLUE 1/1, see how the name is in blue foil? Yeah, that's the difference. Apparently they have 1/1s that have prime pieces, but according to Panini CS, because I asked, the Giants uniforms have a lack of good patches, so they used the number. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk