Viceroy Cards is back!

[Deathgate]

Or at least, they're in the process of coming back. A new website is up at https://viceroy.cards/

I'm quivering with anticipation to see what Ryan has in store for us next!

[arek]

I've not bought any of their products but I remember seeing some nice breaks. I just subscribed to their list to see what they have planned

[kerg]

Been 5 years.. damn.

Good deal. Personally I like that they are going the kickstarter path and wish more would go that route. However, much easier for sketch products than TV shows or movies.

[Spider-Fan]

Originally Posted by kerg

Been 5 years.. damn.

Good deal. Personally I like that they are going the kickstarter path and wish more would go that route. However, much easier for sketch products than TV shows or movies.

I disagree. What is the recourse if you back a kickstarter and the product is never made?

[kerg]

Originally Posted by Spider-Fan

I disagree. What is the recourse if you back a kickstarter and the product is never made?

Yes, that is a major potential negative and some kickstarters backfire.

Also why I said I personally like it. I've backed a number of kickstarter items and have yet to had someone not deliver. However, I'm usually backing more established companies rather than first timers.

[webjon]

Very cool that Viceroy is back -- I'm glad that they are taking steps to get their product out to a wider audience, that's awesome. . .

I think backing them on Kickstarter would be ok since they have produced sets before, but overall I've had a lot of failures on Kickstarter/Indiegogo/Pledgemusic to that point that I avoid them.

The last outstanding campaign I have has *finally* said they will be shipping soon -- although it is unclear what they are shipping, and we were supposed to receive what we ordered in early 2015.

[Zeldafanatic15]

Indulge someone who just got into the hobby within the past few years: what's Viceroy?

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[Deathgate]

Originally Posted by Zeldafanatic15

Indulge someone who just got into the hobby within the past few years: what's Viceroy?

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Viceroy put out sketch card sets a few years back, each pack had a sketch card and a few insert cards. The inserts were very well thought out, and very different than most companies have. The sketch cards were drawn on 100 pt thickness cards, and the backs of the cards were printed with a letterpress.

[KevinCaptiva]

I'm happy they are back. Not a fan of Kickstarter but at least I know they have put out very good stuff in the past so it gives me more confidence in them.

[jadams]

Originally Posted by Spider-Fan

I disagree. What is the recourse if you back a kickstarter and the product is never made?

Nothing, absolutely nothing.

All the Kickstarter project person does is claim delay after delay after delay. It's pretty easy rip people off on Kickstarter. Couple of active "high level" sketchcard artists are guilty of this.

Disclaimer: This has nothing to do with Viceroy Cards, I can't wait to see their new product offering.

[ViceroyCards]

Hey Everyone!

Thanks for the kind words about our past releases. We're really looking forward to producing more sets and trying new things!

If anyone has any questions or suggestions, feel free to ask here and we'll answer as best we can.

As far as Kickstarter goes, I agree with the concerns a Kickstarter campaign can bring. The upcoming set will also be sold in a traditional manner via our new website for those who choose not to use Kickstarter. Everything available in pledge levels will be available at some point before release via the website, except for a few non-physical or one off rewards. If we decide to include stretch goals, anything added via a stretch goal will be included in the full release. I think most can agree that feeling like you missed out on something simply because it was part of a Kickstarter can be quite annoying. We're trying to utilize some of the benefits of a Kickstarter Campaign, while avoiding concerns that have troubled backers on other campaigns.

This would also be a good time to ask what you'd like to see in upcoming products.

Thanks again for all the support, even after our 5 year hibernation!

[kerg]

Originally Posted by ViceroyCards

This would also be a good time to ask what you'd like to see in upcoming products.

With the assumption you are staying away from things that would require a license (TV/Comics/Movies), I'd love to see things more based on history and/or folklore

King Arthur
Robin Hood
Ancient Greece
Ancient Rome
Folklore/Mythology

[ViceroyCards]

Originally Posted by kerg

With the assumption you are staying away from things that would require a license (TV/Comics/Movies), I'd love to see things more based on history and/or folklore

King Arthur
Robin Hood
Ancient Greece
Ancient Rome
Folklore/Mythology

We actually have several of those on the potentials list. Let me see if I can find our old potentials list from 2013. I think it's on the google drive. Edit: Also, we are looking at some licenses.

Books & Plays:
Romeo & Juliet and all Shakespeare
All ancient Greek, Celtic and Roman mythology
Wizard of Oz (no ruby slippers, those are movie only and under copyright)
Jungle Book
Nearly all Fairy Tales
Mother Goose
Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass
Beowulf
Arabian Nights
Treasure Island
Gullivers Travels
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
Three Musketeers

Characters from Books/Mythology:
Sherlock Holmes/Watson/Moriarty (except England)
Dracula
Frankenstein’s Monster
Don Juan
Robin Hood
John Carter of Mars
Tarzan
Cthulhu
Long John Silver
Robinson Crusoe
Peter Pan
Sweeney Todd
King Arthur/Merlin/Lady of the Lake (Camelot)
Grim Reaper
Santa Claus/Mrs. Claus
Big Bad Wolf
Illuminati/Knights Templar
Vlad the Impaler
Hunchback of Notre Dame
King Kong
Dr Jekyll/Mr. Hyde
Hercules
Captain Nemo
Achilles/Helen of Troy
Moby Dick/Ahab
Van Helsing
Don Quixote
Thor
Cinderella
Snow White

Movies:
Nosferatu
Old B SciFi movies

Other:
Presidents
Auto Companies (obsolete)
Known space or newly created fictional space travel/creatures/worlds DONE Early 2013 (Space!)
Historical figures
Unsolved mysteries
Artist/Masterpieces (Van Gogh, Da Vinci, etc)
Eras (Art Deco design, Art Nouveau, Classical period, Renaissance)
Ginter style set without the baseball (anything goes set with relics/booklets)
Circus DONE Summer 2013 as Carnival
Gods/Demons
Ancient mysteries or myths
Animals (World Wildlife Fund or National Wildlife themed sets, portion of sales donated)
Science or Biology
Sea Life DONE Fall 2013 (The Deep)
Bugs, Spiders, etc DONE Fall 2013 (Insectae)
Prehistoric creatures, etc.

[Deathgate]

I'd love to see a literature based set, it could cover a number of the topics above.

[Magickyak]

Pirates =)

[doobypenguin]

ooo Greek/Roman Mythology would be so awesome

[joudenjouden]

Originally Posted by ViceroyCards

Ginter style set without the baseball (anything goes set with relics/booklets)

This one would be a lot of fun!!!

[kerg]

Originally Posted by Magickyak

Pirates =)

I like that one. Pirate treasure coin insert cards.

[rudzud]

Loved their Insectae and The Deep sets. Pulled some really fun sketches.

[Qexit]

While I'm sure Viceroy could come up with some excellent sets featuring Fairy Tales and Myths and Legends, Perna Studios have already been putting out consistantly high quality products for those themes over the past few years so it might be a good idea to look elsewhere for their initial release(s). No reason for two small, high quality companies to be competing for the same market

[Dewman]

Space was awesome. I would be in for Space 2. And maybe Robots.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by doobypenguin

ooo Greek/Roman Mythology would be so awesome

Yep...and sneak a Kratos in there

Or Norse mythology....sneak him in there, too

[ElainePerna]

Originally Posted by Qexit

While I'm sure Viceroy could come up with some excellent sets featuring Fairy Tales and Myths and Legends, Perna Studios have already been putting out consistantly high quality products for those themes over the past few years so it might be a good idea to look elsewhere for their initial release(s). No reason for two small, high quality companies to be competing for the same market

You must have been reading our minds. Our next sets after Hallowe'en 3 is "Creatures of Myths and Legends" for Spring 2019 and "Hallow-ink" for October 2019 and "Classic Fairy Tales 2" for 2020.

[ViceroyCards]

Originally Posted by Qexit

While I'm sure Viceroy could come up with some excellent sets featuring Fairy Tales and Myths and Legends, Perna Studios have already been putting out consistantly high quality products for those themes over the past few years so it might be a good idea to look elsewhere for their initial release(s). No reason for two small, high quality companies to be competing for the same market

We have no plans to create any products matching what Perna Studios produce. They do an amazing job with their sets, and we're fans just like the rest of you!

The list above was created in 2012, so it still contains ideas before other sets were released.

[Spider-Fan]

Originally Posted by kerg

Yes, that is a major potential negative and some kickstarters backfire.

Also why I said I personally like it. I've backed a number of kickstarter items and have yet to had someone not deliver. However, I'm usually backing more established companies rather than first timers.

I preface this comment by saying I have the utmost confidence that viceroy will deliver, and it will be on or close to schedule. I may even back that campaign if it's something I want.

In general though, i think of kickstarter like preorders on crack. You pay months or even years in advance for a product, and there is no recourse if the product never gets made. At least if I preorder from BO, and the product never gets made, I'll get my deposit back. I must prefer the Perna method of taking orders once the product is in hand, and shipping it out a couple weeks later.

I understand the necessity of kickstarter, but not for established companies. Now i dont know viceroys current situation and being out for 5 years might be the same as starting from scratch.