1988 Topps Cloth Experimental—Anybody have more info??

superdan49 · 08-27-2018, 05:12 PM

Just got an e-mail from PSA that ST had some tough Jeter cards in their current auction that matched my registry set. I was looking around and I saw this Glavine RC:

http://smalltraditions.com/Extraordi...-LOT38575.aspx

I had never heard of these before! Does anyone have more info on these, or actually have one? I'd like to track down a Mattingly, but have no idea on what they are worth (other than the fact that they are extremely rare, apparently).

ThoseBackPages · 08-27-2018, 05:26 PM

Yea, those Cloth Tests are TOUGH

ThoseBackPages · 08-27-2018, 05:33 PM

from The Big Book

ScooterD · 08-27-2018, 05:36 PM

It was a test set that was very limitedly released. They are tough, but not as bad as the 1985 minis.

My opinion only, but with something this rare, I only chase if it’s PC. The casual collector doesn’t know enough about them to pay the premium is reselling, but those holding expect the premium. Because of this, you won’t find many that aren’t high BIN. If u find an auction, jump on it

NickM · 08-27-2018, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ScooterD

It was a test set that was very limitedly released. They are tough, but not as bad as the 1985 minis.

My opinion only, but with something this rare, I only chase if it’s PC. The casual collector doesn’t know enough about them to pay the premium is reselling, but those holding expect the premium. Because of this, you won’t find many that aren’t high BIN. If u find an auction, jump on it

They're tougher than 1985 minis.

superdan49 · 08-28-2018, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

from The Big Book

Very informative, thanks! Now to find a Yankee for my collection.

Bowman1951 · 08-28-2018, 09:51 AM

There is a guy in the Vintage section seeking out the 1977 ones right now, he actually has the Cloth in his name.

ThoseBackPages · 08-28-2018, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowman1951

There is a guy in the Vintage section seeking out the 1977 ones right now, he actually has the Cloth in his name.

the '77s are easy

ScooterD · 08-28-2018, 10:31 AM

The ‘76 test issues are REALLY tough

NickM · 08-28-2018, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ScooterD

The ‘76 test issues are REALLY tough

The '76s have 2 cards. They also exist in uncut sheet form.
'72s are about as tough as '88s.
'70s are the toughest Topps Cloth.

mfw13 · 08-28-2018, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NickM

The '76s have 2 cards. They also exist in uncut sheet form.
'72s are about as tough as '88s.
'70s are the toughest Topps Cloth.

I've got the 1970 Topps Cloth McCovey in my PC.....only copy in existence as far as I know...

mattglet · 08-28-2018, 11:17 AM

I have the '88 Canseco/McGwire... I think I only know of 3 that exist?

mattglet · 08-28-2018, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

I've got the 1970 Topps Cloth McCovey in my PC.....only copy in existence as far as I know...

Would love to see a pic!

BestRCs · 08-28-2018, 12:10 PM

From what I've read from several sites the consensus seems to be that something like 50 of the sheets were printed and most were destroyed but some made it out the back door.

So less than 50 of each card that was on the sheet exist. Not all cards from the original Topps set were made into the Cloth version hence the smaller checklist (the numbering is different too).

I actually just sent a Glavine rookie in to PWCC for consignment for their upcoming auction. A BGS 9. This used to be the SGC Mint copy.

So for the Glavine, from the major grading companies there was 1 SGS which is now BGS.

And now 4 BGS and 2 PSA to give you an idea of what the qty is out there (for the encapsulated versions at least).

I thought I read that PSA stopped grading these but I guess not.

anusinha · 08-28-2018, 02:00 PM

Why is the pete rose so expensive?

Bowman1951 · 08-28-2018, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

the '77s are easy

Yeah I guess so. Here is an actual pack on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-TOPPS-...e/152505871323

mfw13 · 08-28-2018, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mattglet

Would love to see a pic!

Unfortunately it's in the safe deposit box right now.....but it looks just like his regular 1970 card, except it's on cloth.

LCM1223 · 08-28-2018, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by anusinha

Why is the pete rose so expensive?

Because it’s not an autograph

anusinha · 08-28-2018, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowman1951

Yeah I guess so. Here is an actual pack on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-TOPPS-...e/152505871323

Dang..... they got Balko Tusmoh to be on the pack

Collinsfanatic · 08-28-2018, 08:17 PM

I have a few of the 77s Munson and Winfield being the best

Sent from my Coolpad 3622A using Tapatalk

superdan49 · 09-08-2018, 08:28 PM

Post script: Just saw that Glavine Cloth sold for $2,618. Wow, for a Tom Glavine card!

ThoseBackPages · 09-08-2018, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by superdan49

Post script: Just saw that Glavine Cloth sold for $2,618. Wow, for a Tom Glavine card!

LOVE IT!

1977 Cloth · 09-19-2018, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowman1951

There is a guy in the Vintage section seeking out the 1977 ones right now, he actually has the Cloth in his name.

I'm the guy seeking the 77s. I have 4 complete PSA sets with the only all 10 set. The others are moving along as well.

I also have a very nice 88 uncut sheet framed along with a a few of the 72s. The 70 and 76s are on the list as well. I even started collecting the 2012 cloth which are replicas of the 77 set.

I can tell you most of what you may want to know about the 77 set as I have another 20-30 copies of each card raw and some unopened boxes.

The one question I still cannot get answered is why there is one or two stars on the back of a card. The same player has cards with each designation and I am trying to grab a 10 of each. I've been collecting the set since it came out, so it has been a few weeks.

08-27-2018, 05:12 PM	#1
superdan49 BODA Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 4,272	1988 Topps Cloth Experimental—Anybody have more info?? Just got an e-mail from PSA that ST had some tough Jeter cards in their current auction that matched my registry set. I was looking around and I saw this Glavine RC: http://smalltraditions.com/Extraordi...-LOT38575.aspx I had never heard of these before! Does anyone have more info on these, or actually have one? I'd like to track down a Mattingly, but have no idea on what they are worth (other than the fact that they are extremely rare, apparently).

08-27-2018, 05:26 PM	#2
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,137 ThoseBackPages	Yea, those Cloth Tests are TOUGH __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

08-27-2018, 05:33 PM	#3
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,137 ThoseBackPages	from The Big Book __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

08-28-2018, 11:17 AM	#12
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08-28-2018, 08:17 PM	#20
Collinsfanatic Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 3,173	I have a few of the 77s Munson and Winfield being the best Sent from my Coolpad 3622A using Tapatalk __________________ Always looking for PSA Graded rookies, Juan Soto, and Washington Nationals!

08-27-2018, 05:36 PM	#4
ScooterD Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 5,218	It was a test set that was very limitedly released. They are tough, but not as bad as the 1985 minis. My opinion only, but with something this rare, I only chase if it’s PC. The casual collector doesn’t know enough about them to pay the premium is reselling, but those holding expect the premium. Because of this, you won’t find many that aren’t high BIN. If u find an auction, jump on it

08-28-2018, 09:51 AM	#7
Bowman1951 Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Boston 'Burbs Posts: 4,714 djblitz Bowman1951	There is a guy in the Vintage section seeking out the 1977 ones right now, he actually has the Cloth in his name.

08-28-2018, 10:31 AM	#9
ScooterD Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 5,218	The ‘76 test issues are REALLY tough

08-28-2018, 12:10 PM	#14
BestRCs Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,468 BestRCs	From what I've read from several sites the consensus seems to be that something like 50 of the sheets were printed and most were destroyed but some made it out the back door. So less than 50 of each card that was on the sheet exist. Not all cards from the original Topps set were made into the Cloth version hence the smaller checklist (the numbering is different too). I actually just sent a Glavine rookie in to PWCC for consignment for their upcoming auction. A BGS 9. This used to be the SGC Mint copy. So for the Glavine, from the major grading companies there was 1 SGS which is now BGS. And now 4 BGS and 2 PSA to give you an idea of what the qty is out there (for the encapsulated versions at least). I thought I read that PSA stopped grading these but I guess not.

08-28-2018, 02:00 PM	#15
anusinha Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,438	Why is the pete rose so expensive?

09-08-2018, 08:28 PM	#21
superdan49 BODA Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 4,272	Post script: Just saw that Glavine Cloth sold for $2,618. Wow, for a Tom Glavine card!