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Old 11-25-2018, 11:08 AM   #1
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Valmar2015. Block him now. Messaged me about chrome update acunas I had for sale, offers 45 for 5 base and a pink, I accept and ship very safely and the clown immediately files a claim saying they were damaged and since ebay pimps sellers out and always sides with buyer you can guess how it went.

This guy didn't bother sending pictures or emailing me first, but went straight to a claim like he planned it all along. He has 9 total feedback and I'm the 2nd in his feedback to recently deal with this same return of policy abuse. I'm so sick of this crap on eBay sellers should unite and file a class action lawsuit vs ebay for this crap, maybe then they'll hold SOME level of accountability on the buyers ends.

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Old 11-25-2018, 11:11 AM   #2
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I’m patiently waiting for someone to post one of these and someone to reply “hey that’s me”. I know it’s happened in the past but I look forward to it
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Old 11-25-2018, 11:12 AM   #3
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I’m patiently waiting for someone to post one of these and someone to reply “hey that’s me”. I know it’s happened in the past but I look forward to it
Oh man I'd have a field day!!! Lol
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Old 11-25-2018, 11:17 AM   #4
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Wanted to see if they'd gem and when he thought they wouldn't, he initiated a return. Even worse, he cherry picked the best out of your lot and is sending back some worse looking ones.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince people that graded modern cards were more valuable.
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Old 11-25-2018, 11:19 AM   #5
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I’m patiently waiting for someone to post one of these and someone to reply “hey that’s me”. I know it’s happened in the past but I look forward to it
I just see these thread titles and hope it’s me for a good laugh.
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Old 11-25-2018, 11:19 AM   #6
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Clown buys at release, cards drop 50% in a glut, buyers remorse.


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Old 11-25-2018, 11:20 AM   #7
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Wanted to see if they'd gem and when he thought they wouldn't, he initiated a return. Even worse, he cherry picked the best out of your lot and is sending back some worse looking ones.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince people that graded modern cards were more valuable.
People will get wise one day....we used to throw our poop in the streets too.

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Old 11-25-2018, 11:20 AM   #8
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Thanks for sharing. Tried to block...got this message,


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Old 11-25-2018, 11:21 AM   #9
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I'm waiting for one of these class action lawsuits that are mentioned weekly by the BO keyboard lawyers.
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Old 11-25-2018, 11:25 AM   #10
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He definitely switched out his crappy cards for my gem ones I sent him it's gonna be obvious when I get them back. When you have 9 feedback on what in 2018 with 2 negative (positive) from sellers claiming the same bs I don't know what could be more of a red flag to ebay, but they don't give a damn. Maybe if they were hit with a class action lawsuit they'd change their tune. I've said this for a while I don't think they care at all anymore. Have a feeling someone monstrous will end up buying them out whether it be amazon, Facebook or whoever.
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Old 11-25-2018, 11:29 AM   #11
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I'm waiting for one of these class action lawsuits that are mentioned weekly by the BO keyboard lawyers.
It would be nice. But it won't happen unless it goes viral
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Old 11-25-2018, 11:42 AM   #12
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another strike against raw cards

sorry this happened to you
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Old 11-25-2018, 12:24 PM   #13
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OP, I'd strongly suggest you start posting your cards for sale on the BST forum here, versus on eBay. I've been scammed so many times on eBay the past few years, and try to avoid at all costs. Much better experience here.
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Old 11-25-2018, 12:28 PM   #14
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=h00perstar34;14126092]He definitely switched out his crappy cards for my gem ones I sent him it's gonna be obvious when I get them back. When you have 9 feedback on what in 2018 with 2 negative (positive) from sellers claiming the same bs I don't know what could be more of a red flag to ebay, but they don't give a damn. Maybe if they were hit with a class action lawsuit they'd change their tune. I've said this for a while I don't think they care at all anymore. Have a feeling someone monstrous will end up buying them out whether it be amazon, Facebook or whoever.
ebay does not provide the staffing to look into every member for every transaction. While it's a burden on us, it's not cost effective for them to investigate every transaction unless pushed. Even so, they may resolve it as he said/she said and just go with their policy, which is in the buyers favor.

I have an ebay employee monitor my listings. When I listed a vintage Lane cedar chest without the retrofit lock for kids safety, I get a warning/listing pulled. Same goes for a vintage corningware complete coffee pot. I can sell parts but as a whole since recalled, I cannot list. Hundreds of the same are listed/sold but mine gets pulled. They are on me quick. Informing me of (sometimes entertaining) ruIes and reasons I had no clue about. I choose my battles and move on.

If you really feel they are in the wrong. Call. Give a backstory of what the seller is doing. Professionally explain your situation that the card sold was in stated description (Mint is not flawless). Explain how this card in a 10 is worth $xxx and that's the buyers goal. At your expense. Give proof (mention other feedback comment(s), offer pictures of condition then vs. once returned.

Get organized. Write out a list of key points. If you call babbling and just whining, easy dismiss. Be polite. Stick to facts. If not going where you feel the conversation should, ask to speak to someone else. The greasy wheel gets oil.

As a last resort I would ask them "Are you saying I'm allowed to do that then? Basically ebay offers a free service to inspect collectibles for gem mint copies that are widely known to increase your investment at the buyers expense. Hey why not, it's free.?" Then something like "my facebook group is going to love this"

While we know one is going to class action against ebay for this scam. We all must force their hand individually. If you want change, you must try. Never fight a claim online. Talking to a live person will always be the best way to resolve anything. Unless you need documentation, but in this case I don't feel you'll get the written response you desire.

Kinda related story- On Naxcom (Sportsbuy) years back a guy was selling a 1989 Fleer Black Box Bill Ripken card for something like $100. Had multiples avail. It's a $1 card. Seller was offering a free Whiteout version with purchase. Was positive this was a way for the seller to move fakes. Being curious and confident I could get my money back I bit. WO was a obvious a fake once I inspected so I filed a claim and quickly lost. Called Naxcom and they were not budging. I wrapped up the conversation with "ok I guess we'll be talking soon. I plan on adding a free 1952 Topps Mantle to all my listings and up the price." He was saying no, no you cant do that etc. I said but you just allowed it to happen to me. I was refunded right then and the listing was removed.

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Old 11-25-2018, 12:29 PM   #15
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Old 11-25-2018, 01:13 PM   #17
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I had this happen with Peace Silver Dollars I sold as circulated and the claimed they weren’t in collectible condition and filed a claim. I called eBay and explained it they checked out my listing and pictures and actually sided with me. It’s time consuming but if you have high quality pictures and a detailed description you stand a chance.
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Old 11-25-2018, 02:25 PM   #19
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specifically detail how the cards will be shipped next time. Leave no room for B.S.
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Old 11-25-2018, 05:02 PM   #20
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specifically detail how the cards will be shipped next time. Leave no room for B.S.
Sadly that doesn't make a difference he can claim they were damaged and send them back however he wants and eBay will always side with him
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Old 11-25-2018, 05:38 PM   #21
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+1 blocked. Thanks for the heads up, OP.
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Old 11-25-2018, 07:34 PM   #22
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Glad I was burned out roughly 15 years ago and just wanted to enjoy the hobby. I would rather list on Blowout than ever go back to eBay.

I would want to exchange phone numbers to insure communication. My belief is less people would be willing to do this stuff if members communicated. My opinion.
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I went to add this game to my block list and it says Invalid user ID now.
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I went to add this game to my block list and it says Invalid user ID now.
So the thieving #@#@#@#@#@#@#@ is watching. In that case:

YOU SUCK AND DOUCHEBAGS LIKE YOU RUIN THE HOBBY
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