BUYER BEWARE: Trimmed PSA-10 2000 Stadium Club Derek Jeter Co-Signers on Ebay

corndog · 04-24-2019, 06:12 PM

This auction for a PSA-10 2000 Stadium Club Co-Signers dual autograph card of Derek Jeter and Rey Ordonez was just recently listed on Ebay by seller markbrunell here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-Stadiu...MAAOSwj8VcXNJ~

Worthpoint has two prior sales, one as raw back in July of 2013 here: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-co4-461132451
and one month later as a PSA-9 here: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...2000-465010501

The card is not serial numbered but the two signatures are a match.

I don't need to use circles or anything, you can clearly see the two bad corners at the top on the raw card here:

A month later the card had been graded by PSA and given a 9 here:

And now the same card is being sold as a PSA-10 here:

Don't know anything about the seller, just pointing out yet another trimmed card graded by PSA.

SaveMeTheGum · 04-24-2019, 06:15 PM

Look at the seller...

3124508 on COMC · 04-24-2019, 06:18 PM

Look at this seller:

All trimmed cards lead to PWCC.

awz50 · 04-24-2019, 06:20 PM

Jesus pwcc really going down the poop hole

KhalDrogo · 04-24-2019, 06:22 PM

Will PWCC investigate who consigned that card?

corndog · 04-24-2019, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Look at this seller:

All trimmed cards lead to PWCC.

When was that sale date? Maybe brunell can get a refund from PWCC since they sold the 10...

3124508 on COMC · 04-24-2019, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corndog

When was that sale date? Maybe brunell can get a refund from PWCC since they sold the 10...

January 2019. Item still shows on Ebay in completed listings.

superdan49 · 04-24-2019, 06:30 PM

A couple of things I noticed here:

1) It has a new serial number with an older style flip (i.e., not a Lighthouse holder). That means the card was submitted to PSA by a big submitter.

2) It was once sold (or appears to be sold) as a PSA 9 by PSA.Gems, as seen in the description from corndog's second Worthpoint link. That is a Kevin Burge account, one of the more notorious criminals active in the industry.

discostu · 04-24-2019, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superdan49

A couple of things I noticed here:

1) It has a new serial number with an older style flip (i.e., not a Lighthouse holder). That means the card was submitted to PSA by a big submitter.

2) It was once sold (or appears to be sold) as a PSA 9 by PSA.Gems, as seen in the description from corndog's second Worthpoint link. That is a Kevin Burge account, one of the more notorious criminals active in the industry.

For the newer members, or members who don't know the name "Kevin Burge" - he was really in on the ground floor of the patch faking, scam game...with a colorful and shady history going back 10+ years.

corndog · 04-24-2019, 06:44 PM

Unbelievable sequence of events...

PWCC owes markbrunell a refund.

superdan49 · 04-24-2019, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corndog

Unbelievable sequence of events...

PWCC owes markbrunell a refund.

Yup. Then PSA will be paying out PWCC to hopefully de-certify this card. Slabbing or selling altered cards might start getting expensive for the hobby superpowers.

KhalDrogo · 04-24-2019, 06:50 PM

Has someone reached out yet?

vwnut13 · 04-24-2019, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superdan49

Yup. Then PSA will be paying out PWCC to hopefully de-certify this card. Slabbing or selling altered cards might start getting expensive for the hobby superpowers.

What's the difference in value between a PSA 10 and an altered card?

PSA is going to have to raise grading fees to cover all these payouts.

superdan49 · 04-24-2019, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vwnut13

What's the difference in value between a PSA 10 and an altered card?

PSA is going to have to raise grading fees to cover all these payouts.

I collect Jeter, and I think that card would still bring in $100-$150 in an altered slab. The autographs are still good.

HeritageKing · 04-24-2019, 07:00 PM

If PSA can't detect a trimmed card here, why trust them with anything else?

mjwoop · 04-24-2019, 07:25 PM

The implication here is that this card may have been trimmed on two separate occasions, right?

PSA is taking a lot of serious credibility shots around here recently. If nothing else, I'm hopeful that it causes some (or at least one) of the resident PSA cheerleaders to put their pom-poms down for a bit.

04-24-2019, 06:12 PM	#1
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 19,138	BUYER BEWARE: Trimmed PSA-10 2000 Stadium Club Derek Jeter Co-Signers on Ebay This auction for a PSA-10 2000 Stadium Club Co-Signers dual autograph card of Derek Jeter and Rey Ordonez was just recently listed on Ebay by seller markbrunell here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-Stadiu...MAAOSwj8VcXNJ~ Worthpoint has two prior sales, one as raw back in July of 2013 here: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-co4-461132451 and one month later as a PSA-9 here: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...2000-465010501 The card is not serial numbered but the two signatures are a match. I don't need to use circles or anything, you can clearly see the two bad corners at the top on the raw card here: A month later the card had been graded by PSA and given a 9 here: And now the same card is being sold as a PSA-10 here: Don't know anything about the seller, just pointing out yet another trimmed card graded by PSA. __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

04-24-2019, 06:15 PM	#2
SaveMeTheGum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NH --> CA --> SC Posts: 17,092 Cardboard_Dynamite CardboardDynamite	Look at the seller... __________________ Pay fast. Ship fast. Deal with people honestly. IG: CardboardDynamite

04-24-2019, 06:20 PM	#4
awz50 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: New Hampshire>>>Arizona>>>>Florida Posts: 33,622 awz50	Jesus pwcc really going down the poop hole __________________ Collecting Baseball Hof Autographs 249/352 Blowouts Official Red Sox face of the franchise Eduardo Rodriguez Super Collector

04-24-2019, 06:22 PM	#5
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,732	Will PWCC investigate who consigned that card? __________________ I love PSA!

04-24-2019, 06:30 PM	#8
superdan49 BODA Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 4,274	A couple of things I noticed here: 1) It has a new serial number with an older style flip (i.e., not a Lighthouse holder). That means the card was submitted to PSA by a big submitter. 2) It was once sold (or appears to be sold) as a PSA 9 by PSA.Gems, as seen in the description from corndog's second Worthpoint link. That is a Kevin Burge account, one of the more notorious criminals active in the industry. __________________ Cardboard Detective Emeritus superdan49@protonmail.com — Anonymous Tip-line

04-24-2019, 06:18 PM	#3
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,484	Look at this seller: All trimmed cards lead to PWCC.

04-24-2019, 06:44 PM	#10
corndog BODA Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it. Posts: 19,138	Unbelievable sequence of events... PWCC owes markbrunell a refund. __________________ He has no rival, He has no equal.

04-24-2019, 06:50 PM	#12
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,732	Has someone reached out yet? __________________ I love PSA!

04-24-2019, 07:00 PM	#15
HeritageKing Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,641	If PSA can't detect a trimmed card here, why trust them with anything else? __________________ #2 Topps Heritage Autograph Collector

04-24-2019, 07:25 PM	#16
mjwoop Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,760	The implication here is that this card may have been trimmed on two separate occasions, right? PSA is taking a lot of serious credibility shots around here recently. If nothing else, I'm hopeful that it causes some (or at least one) of the resident PSA cheerleaders to put their pom-poms down for a bit.