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Old 06-01-2019, 06:43 PM   #1
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Exclamation Brent Huigens & PWCC Used pwcc_auctions ID to Buy Cards for Gary Moser to Trim/Alter

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First, here is a brief summary of the entire PWCC fraud as it has unraveled for those who are just learning about it:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1297767

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I'll preface this post by saying that I suspect that whitman111 is jointly used by PWCC and Moser to purchase cards. I also suspect that at least some of these cards were accidentally purchased on the pwcc_auctions account as opposed to the whitman111 account. Below are six cards that were purchased by PWCC, altered, and sold by PWCC. I will show that at least four were altered by Gary Moser via whitman111. I'd also ask that particular attention is paid to the dates in this thread. PWCC has purchased cards to alter as far back as 2011. It likely goes back further too, but I simply haven't gotten there yet. The most recent card purchase from pwcc_auctions is circa 2014. This is not a new scheme.

Here are the archives of the pwcc_auctions ID (PWCC's only known eBay account) buyer feedback:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190527...rchInterval=30

https://web.archive.org/web/20190527...0&mPg=2&page=2

Identifying PWCC's buyer code:

Using links above, PWCC purchased an item from user jmas2073, who only has 6 feedback:


That user has left feedback for only one red shooting star account, u***p. That means this is PWCC's buyer code on Ebay (it is different on Vintage Card Prices):


Link: https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...rchInterval=30

Using the two link archives above, sellers who sold to PWCC can be identified. Using the feedback that the seller left for PWCC, the item that PWCC purchased can be identified. Using Vintage Card Prices, the seller name can be matched up with the card purchased and the grade to locate a picture of the item. Otherwise, Worthpoint can be used to find an exact title match to the purchased item. To link these cards bought and sold by PWCC to Gary Moser, the PSA website can be used to identify additional cards in that PSA submission. The PSA website or PWCC's auction archive will have photos of these cards. Next, Vintage Card Prices can be used to locate cards purchased by whitman111 in lower grade. If these two cards are the same, the submission can be linked to Gary Moser. The first four cards are in Gary Moser submissions. Linking back the fifth and sixth cards is still a work in progress.

There are many more altered cards in these PSA submissions, but all I'm going to post here for now is a single altered card purchased by PWCC and an accompanying card (altered or unaltered) in the same PSA submission that can be linked to Gary Moser.

My final note is that VCP links will not work if not logged in. I believe there are images of all relevant info from VCP included below.

Altered card #1 purchased and sold by PWCC:
DATE PURCHASED: 10/8/2012
DATE SOLD: 4/10/2017
Item Feedback:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190527...rchInterval=30
Identifying card using VCP:

(e***r is PWCC's buyer code on VCP)
http://www.vintagecardprices.com/car...grd=1&grdr=PSA
PWCC sale: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1458308
Image composite (tape/tape residue removed, although it is still visible with careful examination):

Note this card is inexplicably missing from the PSA database. Did someone return this card to PSA?

Moser connection (linking card has not been proven to be altered in this case):
VCP: http://www.vintagecardprices.com/car...grd=6&grdr=PSA
PWCC sale: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1447089
Image composite:





Altered card #2 purchased and sold by PWCC:
DATE PURCHASED: 9/14/2014
DATE SOLD: 6/18/2015
Item Feedback:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190601...mPg=38&page=13
Identifying card using Worthpoint (exact title match): https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...york-973955921
PWCC sale: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1131294
Image composite (trimmed right edge):


Moser connection (linking card appears to have been pressed to sharpen corners- possible trimmed right edge as well):
VCP: http://www.vintagecardprices.com/car...grd=4&grdr=PSA
PWCC sale: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1379513
Image composite:





Altered card #3 purchased and sold by PWCC:
DATE PURCHASED: 2/16/2014
DATE SOLD: 10/15/2014
Item Feedback:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190527...&mPg=11&page=2
Identifying card using VCP:

http://www.vintagecardprices.com/car...grd=5&grdr=PSA
PWCC sale: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1040010
Image composite (trimmed right edge):


Moser connection (linking card has trimmed left and right edges):
VCP: http://www.vintagecardprices.com/car...grd=6&grdr=PSA
PWCC sale: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1090818
Image composite:




Altered card #4 purchased and sold by PWCC:
DATE PURCHASED: 4/1/2012
DATE SOLD: 3/12/2017
Item Feedback:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190530...mPg=24&page=19
Identifying card using Worthpoint (exact title match): https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...isty-289984388
PWCC sale: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1435751
Image composite (crease pressed out, cleaned, corners improved):


Moser connection (linking card has been cleaned):
VCP: http://www.vintagecardprices.com/car...grd=4&grdr=PSA
PWCC sale: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1435723
Image composite:




Altered card #5 & #6 purchased and sold by PWCC (same PSA submission- currently not linked to Moser):
DATE PURCHASED: 12/4/2011
DATE SOLD: 11/5/2012
This is a failed cleaning of a Goudey Ruth. The card suffered significant paper loss during attempted alteration.
Item Feedback:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190601...0&mPg=5&page=2
Identifying card using Worthpoint (exact title match): https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...aded-249782611
PWCC sale: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/287156
Image composite (failed cleaning):


DATE PURCHASED: 6/12/2011
DATE SOLD: 12/3/2012
This one has gone though a lot of alteration on the back. This card was also damaged (paper loss) due to alteration.
Item Feedback:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190601...mPg=66&page=35
Identifying card using Worthpoint (exact title match): https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-psa-163686514
PWCC sale: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/319972
Image composite (cleaning of reverse- paper loss created):




Let me know if anything is erroneous, broken, or missing!

Please share anywhere you can!

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EDIT 1:


I'll let people draw their own conclusions on this mess:



https://web.archive.org/web/20190602...0&mPg=6&page=4

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-nm7-150317715

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1018264

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Old 06-01-2019, 06:46 PM   #2
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:47 PM   #3
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So many threads

So much damning evidence

Who can do anything ? eBay ? Feds?

Or will anyone do anything

Are these crimes ?

I would think so
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:49 PM   #4
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...and THIS would be the fireworks you were alluding to earlier this week. I thought it was the BGS Black Label...I stand corrected.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:50 PM   #5
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Wow! Great detective work. This needs to be presented at the National and also to Beckett Media. Shame on BGS and PSA as well. The PSA board of directors needs to know this information, as well as eBay and federal authorities. Isn’t it mail fraud too?
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:52 PM   #6
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This thread needs another picture:


http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=269654

Off topic: And would you be surprised if Bronko scored 4 touchdowns for Polk High?
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Holy *^%#
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:01 PM   #8
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This was before stickers, but cards noted as high end were still seen in abundance in Moser’s subs.

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Old 06-01-2019, 07:02 PM   #9
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This........ is what ive been waiting for all week. Wow.
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:09 PM   #10
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Someones going to jail...its inevitable at this point. Time for pwcc to close up shop.
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:09 PM   #11
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A big thank you to all BODA is doing!
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And they would have gotten away with it, if it hadn't been for those meddling internet detectives.
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If PSA ever brings Brent back on their Wednesday radio show or plugs another of his auctions, it will be too many.
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Old 06-01-2019, 07:15 PM   #14
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Seriously, thank you for all your work on stuff like this, 3124508. Shoutout to superdan for his work as well.
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So, whos going to roll on who first?

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3124508, thank you for putting the grunt work into trying to keep our hobby honest.
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How shocked are these crooks that this is all coming to light? To be a fly on the wall as they watch it all come crumbling down slowwwly but surely. Absolutely incredible detective work by those involved!
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Wish I could be at the National, should be a great time!
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You sir, are incredible. The investigative work is something to behold, and I thank you.
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Bunch of Nancy Drew’s.......great findings


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Wasn't there like a 5 million dollar vault that was built several months ago?

What happens to the vault?
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Well, I guess we know why Brent has been jumping through hoops to destroy as much pre-2015 evidence as he could.

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Holy smokin' gun........
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The blowout community should pitch in for a table at Nationals to display the evidence
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Wasn't there like a 5 million dollar vault that was built several months ago?

What happens to the vault?

::Insert any Building on Fire here::
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