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Spent a few minutes digging around in ProFootballReference.com this afternoon. Threw together a spreadsheet of Hall of Fame careers and there's some really interesting stuff.
For example, the 1971 season featured a record 78 future Hall of Fame players suiting up and taking the field. (obviously the post-2000 data is a bit incomplete given that only a few worthy players have reached eligibility)
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Did you know that out of the league's 279 Hall of Fame players, only ten had careers shorter than eight season?
7 seasons - Dick Stanfel, G 7 seasons - Fritz Pollard, RB 7 seasons - Gale Sayers, RB 7 seasons - Kenny Easley, DB 7 seasons - Terrell Davis, RB 6 seasons - Arnie Weinmeister, DT 6 seasons - Cliff Battles, RB 6 seasons - Doak Walker, RB 6 seasons - Ernie Nevers, RB At the other end of the spectrum, only seven players have had careers of twenty seasons or more. 20 seasons - Brett Favre, QB 20 seasons - Jackie Slater, T 20 seasons - Jerry Rice, WR 20 seasons - Junior Seau, LB 22 seasons - Lou Groza, T/K 26 seasons - Morten Anderson, K 27 seasons - George Blanda, QB/K |
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Fun Fact: Starting with 1938, there have always been either two or three Hall of Fame centers active in the league with the exceptions of 1958-1959 and 1991-1993 when Jim Ringo and Dermontti Dawson were the only active Hall of Fame centers and 1974 which featured four Hall of Fame centers: Jim Otto, Mick Tingelhoff, Jim Langer, and Mike Webster.
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Fun Fact: The average length of a Hall of Fame career is 13.03 seasons. The average length of a Hall of Fame quarterback's career is 15.14 seasons. (14.7 seasons if set aside the QB/K career George Blanda)
Only four Hall of Fame quarterbacks played for fewer than twelve seasons: 11 seasons - Jim Kelly 11 seasons - Roger Staubach 10 seasons - Ottot Graham 8 seasons - Bob Waterfield |
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Fun Fact: The average length of a Hall of Fame running back's career is 10.98 seasons.
Sixteen Hall of Fame running backs played fewer than ten seasons. Three played only six seasons (Cliff Battles, Doak Walker, Ernie Nevers). However, only four played more than fifteen seasons: 16 seasons - Arnie Herber 16 seasons - Joe Perry 16 seasons - Marcus Allen 19 seasons - Ken Strong |
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If you're looking for the seasons with the most and fewest Hall of Fame running backs and quarterbacks:
The 1968, 1988 and 1989 seasons each featured only four Hall of Fame running backs. In 1968 it was Leroy Kelly, Gale Sayers, Floyd Little, and a rookie Larry Csonka. In 1988 it was Tony Dorsett (in his final season), Marcus Allen, Eric Dickerson, and a rookie Thurman Thomas. In 1989 Dorsett had retired and Barry Sanders had been drafted. Going by Hall of Famers, the six-season stretch from 1958 to 1964 was definitely the golden age of running backs with nine Hall of Famers playing in every season. For 1958-1963, this included: - Joe Perry - Frank Gifford - Ollie Matson - Hugh McElhenny - John Henry Johnson - Lenny Moore - Paul Hornung - Jim Brown - Jim Taylor In 1964, Joe Perry retired and Leroy Kelly was drafted. As for quarterbacks, the 1970-1971 and 1973 seasons saw ten Hall of Fame quarterbacks suit up: (George Blanda was still active, but only as a kicker) - Bart Starr (70, 71) - Johnny Unitas (70, 71, 73) - Len Dawson (70, 71, 73) - Sonny Jurgensen (70, 71, 73) - Fran Tarkenton (70, 71, 73) - Joe Namath (70, 71, 73) - Bob Griese (70, 71, 73) - Roger Staubach (70, 71, 73) - Ken Stabler (70, 71, 73) - Terry Bradshaw (70, 71, 73) - Dan Fouts (73) By far the worst seasons for Hall of Fame quarterbacks were the 1981-1982 seasons in which only Ken Stabler, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, and Dan Fouts were active. |
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Very well researched. Kinda want to steal this for that sweet, sweet Reddit karma.
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The big graphs showing the overlapping careers of every HOFer are still here on my laptop. Besides, if you get too much karma I heard that Reddit locks you out of your account and sells it to Russia or Pelosi or whoever the boogeyman is supposed to be. |
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Very well done Frenzy! I love stuff like this.
You need to do one on the most common names in the Hall so we all know what to name our kids to increase their chances of being future HOFers. I know there are several Willies and Georges. |
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This is very cool. I also like stuff like this. I wonder how the numbers would change if you did each of the above fun facts with both players that were elected by the writers, and then guys that were selected by the senior committee. Not that it matters, but I wonder which positions are more heavily represented by senior committee nominations.
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It feels like Jim Kelly played more than 11 seasons. It must be those additional years of USFL exposure. |
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The closest I can get to the highest number is the 2012 season with about 5-10 players that can still get in potentially if they can continue their careers(Matt Ryan,Matthew Stafford, etc.). I'm also sure I missed a few guys including the O-Line. I included a few young guys that are on that career trajectory.
*Active players 2012
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The lowest amount of HOF running backs could be next year if Adrian Peterson and Frank Gore retire. Careers just dont last very long anymore
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Just looking at the career lengths of most of the Hall of Fame running backs makes Gore all that much more of a slam dunk. I mean, we've got four HOFers who only played six NFL seasons! That's crazy. |
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If anyone is interested in some AP 1st Team All-Pro data:
The Hall of Fame committee definitely goes easier on WRs and RBs than any other positions when it comes to AP 1st Team All-Pro selections. 11 HOF WRs only made All Pro once and 6 never made it all. 13 HOF RBs only made All Pro once and 3 never made it at all. As for QBs, 4 never made All Pro (Aikman, Moon, Elway, and Staubach) while 8 only made it once (Stabler, Kelly, Bradshaw, Tarkenton, Namath, Blanda, Starr, and Van Brocklin). The record for most AP 1st Team All Pro Selections is shared by WR Jerry Rice and C Jim Otto at 10. |
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