Why isn't Mike Alstott in the Hall of Fame?

Grid · 10-18-2019, 03:19 PM

With all this Frank Gore talk, and everyone playing "Is so and so a Hall of Famer" How does Alstott get overlooked by the hall?

Almost 7400 total yards & 71 TD's is pretty crazy for a full back. You can even argue he was the greatest full back of his generation. Maybe even one of the best all time.

Plenty of full backs in the HOF. Jim Brown, Csonka, Nagurski, Motley, Riggins, Franco Harris, Jim Talyor, Earl Campbell. I'd put Mike's career up against most of those players.

Career highlights and awards

Super Bowl champion (XXXVII)
6× Pro Bowl (1997–2002)
3× First-team All-Pro (1997–1999)
Second-Team All-Pro (1996)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ring of Honor
Consensus All-Big Ten (1995)
Purdue Intercollegiate Athletics Hall of Fame
Indiana Football Hall of Fame

Grid · 10-18-2019, 03:25 PM

I'd vote him in based on his sexy rookie card alone!

asujbl · 10-18-2019, 03:32 PM

Jim Brown has 16,000 career yards... in 118 games

Alstott has 7,500 in 158

Same thing though

rippev · 10-18-2019, 03:38 PM

I agree 100% that he should be. He was a staple on the Bucs during their glory years.

asujbl · 10-18-2019, 03:41 PM

Clarify... Alstott is awesome and I would vote for him

Your comparisons of players are asinine

Carry on

JWBlue · 10-18-2019, 03:44 PM

He probably should be.

Grid · 10-18-2019, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asujbl

Jim Brown has 16,000 career yards... in 118 games

Alstott has 7,500 in 158

Same thing though

Did something happen to you as a child? Am I saying only players greater than Jim Brown are allowed in the hall of fame?

Quote:

Originally Posted by asujbl

Clarify... Alstott is awesome and I would vote for him

Your comparisons of players are asinine

Carry on

Another asinine post from you. Do we have a beef going and no one told me? I'm saying I would put Mike's numbers and achievements up against most of the FB's currently in the Hall. Those players got in, and Mike's resume is comparable to most of them.

Could no one argue he was not a top 10 FB?

Just stop posting if all you are going to do is be a dick.

asujbl · 10-18-2019, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grid

Did something happen to you as a child? Am I saying only players greater than Jim Brown are allowed in the hall of fame?

Another asinine post from you. Do we have a beef going and no one told me? I'm saying I would put Mike's numbers and achievements up against most of the FB's current in the Hall.

Could no one argue he was not a top 10 FB?

Just stop posting if all you are going to do is be a dick.

You mentioned Jim Brown in a Mike Alstott thread

Don’t be mad at me you’re dumb

pejc300 · 10-18-2019, 03:49 PM

Grid; I've never seen you like this. Take a breath.

P.S. Alstott should be in. Loved that dude.

Grid · 10-18-2019, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rippev

I agree 100% that he should be. He was a staple on the Bucs during their glory years.

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Originally Posted by JWBlue

He probably should be.

Thank you! The A-Train was Badass and no one wanted to try to tackle him. He could get those pads low and just brutalize defenders in the open field.

And for a big back, he could leap too.

Grid · 10-18-2019, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asujbl

You mentioned Jim Brown in a Mike Alstott thread

Don’t be mad at me you’re dumb

In context. Stop being an idiot. I understand your Ohio state education is working against you here. Maybe sip a little less of your Browns Kool Aid and then you can post without looking like a moron.

Grid · 10-18-2019, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pejc300

Grid; I've never seen you like this. Take a breath.

P.S. Alstott should be in. Loved that dude.

No need to take a breath. I'm chill. And yes, dude was a beast!

asujbl · 10-18-2019, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grid

In context. Stop being an idiot. I understand your Ohio state education is working against you here. Maybe sip a little less of your Browns Kool Aid and then you can post without looking like a moron.

I didn’t go to Ohio State

How do you not know this?

deemsterz33 · 10-18-2019, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grid

With all this Frank Gore talk, and everyone playing "Is so and so a Hall of Famer" How does Alstott get overlooked by the hall?

Almost 7400 total yards & 71 TD's is pretty crazy for a full back. You can even argue he was the greatest full back of his generation. Maybe even one of the best all time.

Plenty of full backs in the HOF. Jim Brown, Csonka, Nagurski, Motley, Riggins, Franco Harris, Jim Talyor, Earl Campbell. I'd put Mike's career up against most of those players.

Career highlights and awards

Super Bowl champion (XXXVII)
6× Pro Bowl (1997–2002)
3× First-team All-Pro (1997–1999)
Second-Team All-Pro (1996)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ring of Honor
Consensus All-Big Ten (1995)
Purdue Intercollegiate Athletics Hall of Fame
Indiana Football Hall of Fame

I'm a fan of Alstott, and his awards are pretty impressive. I just don't think he has the kind of stats that pop off the page and say HOFer when you look at them. All those guys you mentioned above had peaks during there career thay Alstott never touched. I mean in 1983 Riggins scored over 1/3 of the TDs that Alstott scored in his career in one season.

Also saw Nagurski on the list, it should be noted that he was a terrific D Line and O Lineman as well as RB.

Siberian13 · 10-18-2019, 04:08 PM

I'm with Warrick Dunn on this one. So eff Alstott

Willikn · 10-18-2019, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Grid

Am I saying only players greater than Jim Brown are allowed in the hall of fame?

It'd be a pretty lonely hall were that the case.

Warrick Dunn > Mike Alstott

Warrick isn't there either.

JeremyNick · 10-18-2019, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grid

Did something happen to you as a child? Am I saying only players greater than Jim Brown are allowed in the hall of fame?

Another asinine post from you. Do we have a beef going and no one told me? I'm saying I would put Mike's numbers and achievements up against most of the FB's currently in the Hall. Those players got in, and Mike's resume is comparable to most of them.

Could no one argue he was not a top 10 FB?

Just stop posting if all you are going to do is be a dick.

I just picked one, Franco Harris, since you used him as a comp in your original post.
173 total games, 12,210 yards, 100 total TDs (91 rushing, 9 receiving), 4.1 ypc average over 13 seasons
Mike Alstott
158 total games, 5088 yards, 71 total TDs (58 rushing, 13 receiving), 3.7 ypc average over 11 seasons
It's not even a discussion. Alstott was a good FB, but he simply should not be in HOF discussion.

Whodatiz · 10-18-2019, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grid

In context. Stop being an idiot. I understand your Ohio state education is working against you here. Maybe sip a little less of your Browns Kool Aid and then you can post without looking like a moron.

Dude, he’s an ASU alum. There’s your answer.

asujbl · 10-18-2019, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Whodatiz

Dude, he’s an ASU alum. There’s your answer.

Insulting to ASU graduates. Not cool.

asujbl · 10-18-2019, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I just picked one, Franco Harris, since you used him as a comp in your original post.
173 total games, 12,210 yards, 100 total TDs (91 rushing, 9 receiving), 4.1 ypc average over 13 seasons
Mike Alstott
158 total games, 5088 yards, 71 total TDs (58 rushing, 13 receiving), 3.7 ypc average over 11 seasons
It's not even a discussion. Alstott was a good FB, but he simply should not be in HOF discussion.

Well he isn’t Franco. He’s Jim Brown. Don’t get it twisted.

asujbl · 10-18-2019, 04:16 PM

Csonka had 9,000 yards in Less games

Still the same

asujbl · 10-18-2019, 04:17 PM

Riggins has 14,000 in basically the same amount of games

asujbl · 10-18-2019, 04:18 PM

Alstott is awesome

OP simply listed a bunch of dudes that are not just better... but way better

That wherever he went education

Stifle · 10-18-2019, 04:20 PM

Being the 9th best ever Fullback, the chance of him being voted in isn't that long of a shot. He was ahead of Alan Ameche, ahead of T. Richardson. L. Neal, T. Rathman and L. Centers who were all STUDS.

JeremyNick · 10-18-2019, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asujbl

Well he isn’t Franco. He’s Jim Brown. Don’t get it twisted.

But is he as good of a rapper as soon to be HOFer Lev Bell?

10-18-2019, 03:19 PM	#1
Grid Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 12,875 Gridiron-Gladiators	Why isn't Mike Alstott in the Hall of Fame? With all this Frank Gore talk, and everyone playing "Is so and so a Hall of Famer" How does Alstott get overlooked by the hall? Almost 7400 total yards & 71 TD's is pretty crazy for a full back. You can even argue he was the greatest full back of his generation. Maybe even one of the best all time. Plenty of full backs in the HOF. Jim Brown, Csonka, Nagurski, Motley, Riggins, Franco Harris, Jim Talyor, Earl Campbell. I'd put Mike's career up against most of those players. Career highlights and awards Super Bowl champion (XXXVII) 6× Pro Bowl (1997–2002) 3× First-team All-Pro (1997–1999) Second-Team All-Pro (1996) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ring of Honor Consensus All-Big Ten (1995) Purdue Intercollegiate Athletics Hall of Fame Indiana Football Hall of Fame

10-18-2019, 03:32 PM	#3
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,196 ohiosundevils	Jim Brown has 16,000 career yards... in 118 games Alstott has 7,500 in 158 Same thing though __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

10-18-2019, 03:41 PM	#5
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,196 ohiosundevils	Clarify... Alstott is awesome and I would vote for him Your comparisons of players are asinine Carry on __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

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asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,196 ohiosundevils	Csonka had 9,000 yards in Less games Still the same __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

10-18-2019, 04:17 PM	#22
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,196 ohiosundevils	Riggins has 14,000 in basically the same amount of games __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

10-18-2019, 03:25 PM	#2
Grid Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 12,875 Gridiron-Gladiators	I'd vote him in based on his sexy rookie card alone!

10-18-2019, 03:38 PM	#4
rippev Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: New Mexico Posts: 2,710	I agree 100% that he should be. He was a staple on the Bucs during their glory years.

10-18-2019, 03:44 PM	#6
JWBlue Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,369	He probably should be.

10-18-2019, 03:49 PM	#9
pejc300 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 10,652	Grid; I've never seen you like this. Take a breath. P.S. Alstott should be in. Loved that dude.

10-18-2019, 04:08 PM	#15
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 76,214 shiller13	I'm with Warrick Dunn on this one. So eff Alstott

10-18-2019, 04:18 PM	#23
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,196 ohiosundevils	Alstott is awesome OP simply listed a bunch of dudes that are not just better... but way better That wherever he went education __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

10-18-2019, 04:20 PM	#24
Stifle Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: I've met great collectors throughout MI and N. Indiana / CHI. Posts: 9,316 Stifle	Being the 9th best ever Fullback, the chance of him being voted in isn't that long of a shot. He was ahead of Alan Ameche, ahead of T. Richardson. L. Neal, T. Rathman and L. Centers who were all STUDS. Last edited by Stifle; 10-18-2019 at 05:50 PM.