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Old 10-27-2019, 01:32 PM   #1
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Default Future Hall of Famer Investment Projections to pass collection on in 16 years. Sugges

I’m returning to the hobby in my 30’s after selling off pretty much every baseball card I owned in high school. I truly missed the hobby and I was looking for a fun way to set aside something special for the future for my newborn son. So naturally I thought of my old hobby and thought it would be something cool we could share together.

I’ll probably introduce him to the pure, arcade joy of breaking open some boxes when he is young, but presently I’m looking at buying some quality rookie/auto cards of potential future hall of famers and putting them away for a while until my son is cognizant enough to understand their true value. I’m thinking of surprising him with a sweet collection on his 16th birthday, so he can either keep them or liquidate them for a down payment on some new wheels haha).

I don’t have thousands to throw around and I don’t want to save up for half a year just to buy one quality Trout rookie. I was thinking diversifying investments a little and dropping like 100 to max 300 at a time on some players whose trajectory seems promising.

I know a lot is mere speculation at this point and I’m not going to throw money at every potential HOFer but here’s my buy list right now:

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Jeter (Parents gifted a BGS 8.5 1993 SP to help out my endeavor)
Verlander BOUGHT 2005 leaf certified ruby auto BGS 9
Pujols (looking for quality 2001 auto that won’t break the bank, may venture into 500 dollar territory here. Love some of the Donruss signature stuff but wonder about value holding. Suggestions???)
Scherzer (quality non auto PSA 10)
Yadier (2004 autos)

Good Trajectory
Bregman BOUGHT 2016 bow chrome auto
Betts (looking at Topps heritage PSA 10 possibly bowman chrome Bc I think it’s worth it although expensive)
Lindor (2011 bow chrome)
Judge (2013 sterling or later chrome autos)
Harper (think he will probably bounce back so trying to buy him soon while prices are low. Suggestions on best investments between 2011-2012?)
Trout (quality non auto if prices ever cool)
Acuna (looking for 2nd 3rd year autos)
Bellinger (2nd 3rd year autos)

Waaaay to Early but Insane Potential
Wander Franco BOUGHT Bowman Platinum Ice Auto
Tatis Jr (Pulled Walgreens 2019 yellow update but still want to buy an early auto)
Vlad Jr (expensive but don’t want to miss the boat here. Suggestions on 300 or lower investments?)

Again just returning to the hobby, so feel free to offer guidance. Would love to pass something on to my son that he will be proud of, but could also appreciate and liquidate if he wanted to use the cash! Thanks in advance!




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Old 10-27-2019, 01:39 PM   #2
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Mantle, Jeter, Trout, Jordan, Lebron, Brady
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Old 10-27-2019, 01:43 PM   #3
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I would also add Altuve.

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Old 10-27-2019, 01:43 PM   #4
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Devers, Adell, & Gorman would be my 3 long term holds, if i could hold long term. Lol.

Edit: ill agree with unclemonkey too. Altuve is a solid long term guy. He will have his price ups and downs. But with every up, the downs should raise too

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I would also add Altuve.

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Definitely a good idea, especially with his clutch postseason performances! thanks!


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Welcome Back!

For Betts, I'd consider taking a look at both his Topps Update & Topps Chrome Update also. I tend to think they will be the better cards in the long run over the Heritage.

For both Acuna & Bellinger I'd suggest a Topps Chrome RC Refractor & Topps Heritage RC Chrome #xxx/999 combo instead of the Non-RC Autos for the long haul. If you believe in the player those should do much better. If just for your collection and looking for Auto, then disregard.

For Vladdy & Tatis, I would suggest low numbered Topps Chrome RC Refractors (Blue /150 or less)
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Devers, Adell, & Gorman would be my 3 long term holds, if i could hold long term. Lol.


True, Devers is looking like a good option. Yes! Adell intrigues me and has A LOT of upside but he’s really pricey for quality right now without being proven in the MLB imo. I like Gorman,but was thinking more about fellow Cardinal Dylan Carlson for prospecting purposes. I know what you mean about long term holds. I also have a Hiura auto that I want to hold long term but may sell to fuel other investments if it picks up much steam.


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Why not save the money in an account and wait for the crash? There is a major one coming during the next recession.
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Bregman too. Finished 5th in last years MVP voting. Might win it this year.
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For Betts, I'd consider taking a look at both his Topps Update & Topps Chrome Update also. I tend to think they will be the better cards in the long run over the Heritage.

For both Acuna & Bellinger I'd suggest a Topps Chrome RC Refractor & Topps Heritage RC Chrome #xxx/999 combo instead of the Non-RC Autos for the long haul. If you believe in the player those should do much better. If just for your collection and looking for Auto, then disregard.

For Vladdy & Tatis, I would suggest low numbered Topps Chrome RC Refractors (Blue /150 or less)


Thank you for the insight! These are the types of decisions I love getting input on because the market has changed so much since I left collecting. I know PSA 10 is obviously the ideal on these, but would PSA 9s hold value well enough over the years to be worth investing in? (Just because I’m not very rich at the moment haha)


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Thank you for the insight! These are the types of decisions I love getting input on because the market has changed so much since I left collecting. I know PSA 10 is obviously the ideal on these, but would PSA 9s hold value well enough over the years to be worth investing in? (Just because I’m not very rich at the moment haha)


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PSA 9s will be steady builders, a safe bet.

PSA 10s will be the ones that "explode", but are more costly
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PSA 9s will be steady builders, a safe bet.



PSA 10s will be the ones that "explode", but are more costly


Thank you again for the perspective!


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Bregman too. Finished 5th in last years MVP voting. Might win it this year.


I love the idea of investing Bregman, his 2016 chrome auto was one of my first purchases. If I had more cash I would grab more refractors etc but I’m just trying to spread the cash around on some different players.


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Why not save the money in an account and wait for the crash? There is a major one coming during the next recession.


There are probably better investments but I want to have some fun with it too to be honest


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Mantle, Jeter, Trout, Jordan, Lebron, Brady
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Mantle - PSA Vintage
Jeter - You're covered
Trout - Plenty of 2nd and 3rd year stuff in $100-300 range

G.O.A.T., Bron Bron and TB12 - PSA 2nd and 3rd year...Jordan has tons of nice inserts
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Honestly, I agree with the people talking about buying Brady.

Splurge and get a decent PSA 9 or 10 rookie of Brady now before they get too costly.
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Mantle - PSA Vintage

Jeter - You're covered

Trout - Plenty of 2nd and 3rd year stuff in $100-300 range



G.O.A.T., Bron Bron and TB12 - PSA 2nd and 3rd year...Jordan has tons of nice inserts


I will have to look into Mantle and Trout for sure. I was just under the impression that most investment worthy cards were out of my price range. You are definitely right, Jordan LeBron and Brady are definitely going to continue to appreciate but I’m probably going all in on baseball.


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Honestly, I agree with the people talking about buying Brady.

Splurge and get a decent PSA 9 or 10 rookie of Brady now before they get too costly.


I may venture away at some point from baseball just for cash purposes, but probably not for a while. I don’t doubt at all that Brady is going to pay out for years to come, but I’m really focused on baseball. Maybe I’m being too narrow sighted, but I would probably have to have a bunch of unforeseen cash laying around before throwing down on a quality Brady. You’re definitely not wrong though from an investment perspective! I’m probably just too attached to my old sport haha.


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Any thoughts on the best 2001 Pujols to invest in? Preferably auto, but also interested in quality non auto. Possibly Topps Chrome Traded with Ichiro? Probably not going to spend over $500 on any one card.

Also looking for a quality Bryce Harper investment for $300 or less.

Recommendations are greatly appreciated!


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Any thoughts on the best 2001 Pujols to invest in? Preferably auto, but also interested in quality non auto. Possibly Topps Chrome Traded with Ichiro? Probably not going to spend over $500 on any one card.

Also looking for a quality Bryce Harper investment for $300 or less.

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I may venture away at some point from baseball just for cash purposes, but probably not for a while. I don’t doubt at all that Brady is going to pay out for years to come, but I’m really focused on baseball. Maybe I’m being too narrow sighted, but I would probably have to have a bunch of unforeseen cash laying around before throwing down on a quality Brady. You’re definitely not wrong though from an investment perspective! I’m probably just too attached to my old sport haha.


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Look I get it, and I'm a baseball guy, but Brady is going to be the Jordan, the Gretzky of football.

Not sure on your budget, but it's worth trying to get a regular Bowman or Metal rookie if you can. If you wait, they will be even more expensive. I've seen a $100+ jump in some of his rookies already this year from August.

For baseball, I would also possibly consider Miguel Cabrera.

Some others that have good trajectory/near locks:

Kershaw
Nolan Arenado
Cody Bellinger(insanely early, but I think this guy is going to be a force power hitter)
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$500 wont get any "best" Pujols.


True on the “best”. I’m thinking a Pujols that will still hold value but won’t break the bank. Most quality that I’ve seen on eBay seem to go for well over book value. The SPX is probably about the best I can afford. Curious about the value of the Donruss signature rookie that is serial numbered out of 350 since there is no listed value in Beckett and few posted on eBay.


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I’m a little surprised no one mentioned Ichiro, also Adrian Beltre looks like he has a good chance at HOF.


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True on the “best”. I’m thinking a Pujols that will still hold value but won’t break the bank. Most quality that I’ve seen on eBay seem to go for well over book value. The SPX is probably about the best I can afford. Curious about the value of the Donruss signature rookie that is serial numbered out of 350 since there is no listed value in Beckett and few posted on eBay.


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i would say get a Topps Chrome RC

i will also say its probably best to stick with brands that are relevant.

Topps Chrome has extreme longevity, and if the brand is not still around in 10 years, there are bigger issues lol
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Look I get it, and I'm a baseball guy, but Brady is going to be the Jordan, the Gretzky of football.



Not sure on your budget, but it's worth trying to get a regular Bowman or Metal rookie if you can. If you wait, they will be even more expensive. I've seen a $100+ jump in some of his rookies already this year from August.



For baseball, I would also possibly consider Miguel Cabrera.



Some others that have good trajectory/near locks:



Kershaw

Nolan Arenado

Cody Bellinger(insanely early, but I think this guy is going to be a force power hitter)

Stanton

deGrom


Very good insight. I’ll definitely take Brady into consideration. I think I have to get over my Coors field bias on Arenado as he is the complete package, is it wrong to hope he gets traded? Definitely on Bellinger, he’s on my list but I think I may have to wait until he cools off a bit before I can snag a good one (could be wistful thinking). Verlander is the only pitcher besides Scherzer I was really into but Kershaw and DeGrom are both good options. I feel like the market isn’t very kind to pitchers, whether it’s fair or not.

I did actually purchase a PSA 9 Topps chrome rookie auto Stanton for peanuts because the whole world turned on him after he got injured. I think some are forgetting he’s still got plenty of years left and over 300 homers despite the injuries and Yankee fan overreactions haha.

Miguel Cabrera will hit the hall along with Beltre but do you think their cards will jump and stay or fizzle?




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