ALERT: REA Selling Egregiously Recolored PSA 7 '48 Leaf DiMaggio in REA PSA Sub

3124508 on COMC · 11-25-2019, 03:52 PM

EDIT: See Post #11. Card was in a SGC 86 slab that was sold via Mile High in between being in a PSA 6 and a PSA 7 slab.

The following Dimaggio was sold as an unaltered PSA 6 by REA on 4/30/2016 and was later altered, submitted by REA to PSA, sold by REA again as an altered PSA 7 on 10/28/2018. The card is now for sale again in REA's current auction in the same PSA 7 slab. The card has been recolored in several areas and although not noted in the composite below, a few of the corners also appear to be smoothed out. Finally, REA does not disclose that they submitted the DiMaggio, however the card five PSA cert numbers away is noted as being submitted to PSA by REA.

Unaltered sale: https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=39863
First Altered PSA 7 sale: https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=52493
Current auction link: https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=61847
Card five cert numbers away submitted by REA: https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=49279

There are also several trimmed Moser 48 Leaf cards for sale from REA. All of those I could prove with photos are below.

CURRENTLY FOR SALE IN REA AUCTION LOT #1099
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=61916

CURRENTLY FOR SALE IN REA AUCTION LOT #1099
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=61916

CURRENTLY FOR SALE IN REA AUCTION LOT #1097
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=61914

CURRENTLY FOR SALE IN REA AUCTION LOT #1045
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=61862

ThoseBackPages · 11-25-2019, 03:53 PM

Soxfanguy · 11-25-2019, 03:56 PM

How do you find this stuff?

Incredible work as normal

3124508 on COMC · 11-25-2019, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

How do you find this stuff?

Incredible work as normal

Luck mostly. That should tell you something.

I saw a clean card worth a couple thousand in a new PSA slab. 5 minutes of looking on VCP and bingo.

Soxfanguy · 11-25-2019, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Luck mostly. That should tell you something.

I saw a clean card worth a couple thousand in a new PSA slab. 5 minutes of looking on VCP and bingo.

VCP? What's that?

3124508 on COMC · 11-25-2019, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

VCP? What's that?

Vintage Card Prices. Like Worthpoint for vintage graded cards, but more organized.

Soxfanguy · 11-25-2019, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Vintage Card Prices. Like Worthpoint for vintage graded cards, but more organized.

Thanks

3124508 on COMC · 11-25-2019, 04:06 PM

I have sent this thread to REA via their website.

MoreToppsPlease · 11-25-2019, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Luck mostly. That should tell you something.

I saw a clean card worth a couple thousand in a new PSA slab. 5 minutes of looking on VCP and bingo.

I wish it were funny that you can locate a random card worth thousands of dollars and determine that its been trimmed after only several minutes.

Wiseguy917 · 11-25-2019, 05:23 PM

But....but....but how did it get past a PSA grader?!?!?

3124508 on COMC · 11-25-2019, 06:26 PM

REA is off the hook on DiMaggio, however now Mile High and SGC are now on the hook. In between being a PSA 6 and a PSA 7 it has a short-lived time in a SGC 86 slab.

pip · 11-25-2019, 06:27 PM

The UL and LR corners on the 48 Leaf DiMaggio also improved between submissions and some of the snow in the green background mysteriously vanished.

3124508 on COMC · 11-25-2019, 06:29 PM

And to add, the DiMaggio has been withdrawn. No word on circulated Moser cards.

pip · 11-25-2019, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

And to add, the DiMaggio has been withdrawn. No word on circulated Moser cards.

Maybe someone at REA found their lost black light. I can only imagine what the Dimaggio looks like under a UV source.

VintageBrave · 11-25-2019, 06:52 PM

COMC, I really want to thank you for posting these type of threads. Quite frankly, it is the only possible way for common hobbyists to get some semblance of justice with this fraud. The only way to slow down this fraud is to keep questioning as many high-grade cards as possible that hit the market. Every innocent owner of a tainted card needs to be informed as well as protecting future victims.

3124508 on COMC · 11-25-2019, 07:04 PM

The rest of the Moser cards are coming down as well. Thanks to REA.

chezball · 11-25-2019, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

The rest of the Moser cards are coming down as well. Thanks to REA.

next stop PWCC or probstein.

Soxfanguy · 11-25-2019, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

The rest of the Moser cards are coming down as well. Thanks to REA.

Wow they actually listened unlike everywhere else. I respect that

JrFinest · 11-25-2019, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

The rest of the Moser cards are coming down as well. Thanks to REA.

Much respect for REA. Thank you.

mjohnatgt · 11-25-2019, 08:49 PM

Wouldn't it be nice if they announced out loud, "These are the consignors we're no longer taking submissions or cards with provenance from....."

pip · 11-25-2019, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

Wouldn't it be nice if they announced out loud, "These are the consignors we're no longer taking submissions or cards with provenance from....."

They would only do that if customers were of paramount importance.

JrFinest · 11-25-2019, 09:56 PM

Im still trying to figure out why these auction houses dont appear to be reporting these cases to the local authorities.

Perhaps they are but it's not getting the attention it deserves?

They have all of the submitter information. I would imagine it wouldnt be hard to track them down. Obviously a few auction houses are in on this (PWCC) ,but there has to be a few that obviously arent as well.

Skipscards · 11-25-2019, 09:58 PM

I’ve dealt with REA in the past and they are pretty stand up folks. There’s a lot of slimy people in our hobby but in my experience REA is not one of them.

pip · 11-25-2019, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipscards

I’ve dealt with REA in the past and they are pretty stand up folks. There’s a lot of slimy people in our hobby but in my experience REA is not one of them.

The same thing was said about TripleSSS not that long ago.

Skipscards · 11-25-2019, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pip

The same thing was said about TripleSSS not that long ago.

Not sure what your point is. Let’s just tarnish everyone’s reputation in the world since anyone can potentially be scum.

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3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,403	And to add, the DiMaggio has been withdrawn. No word on circulated Moser cards. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

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3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,403	The rest of the Moser cards are coming down as well. Thanks to REA. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

11-25-2019, 03:52 PM	#1
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,403	ALERT: REA Selling Egregiously Recolored PSA 7 '48 Leaf DiMaggio in REA PSA Sub EDIT: See Post #11. Card was in a SGC 86 slab that was sold via Mile High in between being in a PSA 6 and a PSA 7 slab. The following Dimaggio was sold as an unaltered PSA 6 by REA on 4/30/2016 and was later altered, submitted by REA to PSA, sold by REA again as an altered PSA 7 on 10/28/2018. The card is now for sale again in REA's current auction in the same PSA 7 slab. The card has been recolored in several areas and although not noted in the composite below, a few of the corners also appear to be smoothed out. Finally, REA does not disclose that they submitted the DiMaggio, however the card five PSA cert numbers away is noted as being submitted to PSA by REA. Unaltered sale: https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=39863 First Altered PSA 7 sale: https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=52493 Current auction link: https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=61847 Card five cert numbers away submitted by REA: https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=49279 There are also several trimmed Moser 48 Leaf cards for sale from REA. All of those I could prove with photos are below. CURRENTLY FOR SALE IN REA AUCTION LOT #1099 https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=61916 CURRENTLY FOR SALE IN REA AUCTION LOT #1099 https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=61916 CURRENTLY FOR SALE IN REA AUCTION LOT #1097 https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=61914 CURRENTLY FOR SALE IN REA AUCTION LOT #1045 https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=61862 __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud Last edited by 3124508 on COMC; 11-25-2019 at 06:28 PM.

11-25-2019, 05:23 PM	#10
Wiseguy917 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 3,558	But....but....but how did it get past a PSA grader?!?!? __________________ PSA is like a 70s Porn Star...They don’t care if it’s trimmed or not. Being nice is something stupid people do to hedge their bets

11-25-2019, 06:26 PM	#11
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,403	REA is off the hook on DiMaggio, however now Mile High and SGC are now on the hook. In between being a PSA 6 and a PSA 7 it has a short-lived time in a SGC 86 slab. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

11-25-2019, 06:27 PM	#12
pip Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: French underground Posts: 4,009	The UL and LR corners on the 48 Leaf DiMaggio also improved between submissions and some of the snow in the green background mysteriously vanished.

11-25-2019, 06:52 PM	#15
VintageBrave Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: South Carolina Posts: 31 Midwestcpa	COMC, I really want to thank you for posting these type of threads. Quite frankly, it is the only possible way for common hobbyists to get some semblance of justice with this fraud. The only way to slow down this fraud is to keep questioning as many high-grade cards as possible that hit the market. Every innocent owner of a tainted card needs to be informed as well as protecting future victims.

11-25-2019, 08:49 PM	#20
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,734 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	Wouldn't it be nice if they announced out loud, "These are the consignors we're no longer taking submissions or cards with provenance from....."

11-25-2019, 09:56 PM	#22
JrFinest Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,117 jrfinest_cards	Im still trying to figure out why these auction houses dont appear to be reporting these cases to the local authorities. Perhaps they are but it's not getting the attention it deserves? They have all of the submitter information. I would imagine it wouldnt be hard to track them down. Obviously a few auction houses are in on this (PWCC) ,but there has to be a few that obviously arent as well.

11-25-2019, 09:58 PM	#23
Skipscards Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: In Tribute To The Great Ryno Posts: 30,223 jlankf2 jmp4	I’ve dealt with REA in the past and they are pretty stand up folks. There’s a lot of slimy people in our hobby but in my experience REA is not one of them. __________________ Go Royals!! #RoyalsIn2015 <---It Happened!! #TEAMZinck Sometimes it is astounding that we are able to persist in a world so full of morons.