Psa or beckett ?

giants0811 · 05-13-2020, 08:41 AM

what do you prefer and why?? THANKS

Siberian13 · 05-13-2020, 08:44 AM

Raw dawg!

bamafan3559 · 05-13-2020, 09:02 AM

For PC, I use Beckett since they have thicker encapsulation, but PSA typically brings more money for sales unless you get a BGS 10. It just depends on what you plan on doing with the card IMO.

asujbl · 05-13-2020, 09:06 AM

PSA

PSA sells better

PSA has better cases (yes I know this is personal preference - I hate how thick BGS slabs are - others completely disagree)

PSA is better for collectors with OCD, which is me, because of the uniformity

PSA has a better registry if you choose to participate

PSA has a wider population report for low end stuff because it still sells well. This really only applies to my PC where I want some random Cleveland players RC in PSA 10 but a BGS 9.5 doesn't exist because it doesn't sell well enough to submit even via bulk order

Those are just some of the reasons I chose PSA over BGS when I started my PC a few years ago.

NoleinJax · 05-13-2020, 09:10 AM

I prefer how cards look in PSA holders and their consistent labels, but can see why others prefer a thicker slab. Cards look duller to me in BGS slabs.

goodole13 · 05-13-2020, 09:22 AM

It’s all personal preference; I have both. But go with PSA, better return if you decide to sell and the cases are outstanding. They’ve been using a stronger case the last few years and they’re far superior to their older cases.

What people will try to argue is BGS cases are stronger, thicker, and so on. However, unless you’re throwing your cases around or constantly dropping them, that shouldn’t matter. I’ve never understood that argument.

It really is just preference though, but PSA outsells BGS when it’s the same grade.

giants0811 · 05-13-2020, 09:49 AM

thanks, guys , i noticed Beckett uses plastic sleeves on cards and PSA doesn't

NoleinJax · 05-13-2020, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by giants0811

thanks, guys , i noticed Beckett uses plastic sleeves on cards and PSA doesn't

That's one of the reasons cards display so much nicer in a PSA case imo.

asujbl · 05-13-2020, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NoleinJax

That's one of the reasons cards display so much nicer in a PSA case imo.

Agreed.

I understand the theory of sleeves helping to protect, and I suppose they do (especially the older PSA cases where there was more movement), but I think the cards look worse with sleeves.

Also as goodole13 pointed out as long as you aren't manhandling your cards I don't really see PSA offering any less protection (I guess when shipping?)

I get my cards, I scan them, and I store them. Are other people just randomly shaking them for fun?

huskerman47 · 05-13-2020, 10:15 AM

I used to be BGS all the way but prefer PSA much more now

LeonfromNC · 05-13-2020, 12:35 PM

SGC

Because from what I’ve been told online is that SGC is cheaper to grade, faster turnarounds and has excellent customer service

AND

Apparently SGC sells the same as PSA/BGS

lol

I’m totally joking. SGC shouldn’t even be used in the same breath as PSA/BGS.

I prefer PSA for resale value.

GatorPie · 05-13-2020, 12:40 PM

PSA clearly has higher resale value right now, but will that always be the case? I'm not so sure.

I couldn't get over PSA's cheap cases when I first saw them in 1997, couldn't get over how crappy and flimsy they still were in 2007, and nothing has changed today.

goodole13 · 05-13-2020, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorPie

PSA clearly has higher resale value right now, but will that always be the case? I'm not so sure.

I couldn't get over PSA's cheap cases when I first saw them in 1997, couldn't get over how crappy and flimsy they still were in 2007, and nothing has changed today.

First of all, relax. There's nothing to get upset about. What makes you assume PSA won't have a higher resale in the future?

Lastly, how can you say nothing has changed? PSA has improved their cases greatly, they are far from flimsy.

sethc1020 · 05-13-2020, 01:06 PM

Its all about preference, sure PSA brings more value for whatever reason but I like to see the sub grades on the BGS cases. I've never personally submitted anything to PSA but would like to. I just hate their business model of grading cost based on the value of the card they are grading. What does the value matter? The grading and slabbing process is exactly the same for $1,000,000 card as it is for a $1 card. Then if they deem you card to be more valuable than you do they can charge you more no questions asked. Just seems a little shady to me.

asujbl · 05-13-2020, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorPie

PSA clearly has higher resale value right now, but will that always be the case? I'm not so sure.

I couldn't get over PSA's cheap cases when I first saw them in 1997, couldn't get over how crappy and flimsy they still were in 2007, and nothing has changed today.

BGS clearly is a company that exists right now but will that always be the case? I'm not so sure.

There is as much factual information in what I just wrote as what you just wrote.

majestik101 · 05-13-2020, 02:39 PM

SGC clearly is a company that exists right now but will that always be the case? I'm not so sure.

heatdawg · 05-13-2020, 03:09 PM

SGC is making ground but still a long way to go until they can compete.

blackbears86 · 05-13-2020, 03:56 PM

I like: BOTH

The case for PSA
1. Sell for more
2. The case (cards display better) depending on who you ask
3. the registry
4. the history

downfalls:
1. Bad grading mistakes, trimmed cards, preferential grading. (see the latest issue in the baseball threads, they graded a high end reprint)
2. No "inner" sleeve--May or may not be an issue depending on who you ask.
3. Expensive if you have a high end card.
4. Looooooong turnaround times. The player you are grading may be ice cold by the time you get your cards back.

The case for BGS
1. can sell for more than PSA (if 10 or black label)
2. The case (cards display better, depending on who you ask) more protection, have an inner sleeve
3. Faster turnaround time (slow but faster compared to PSA)
4. Less expensive if grading higher end cards
5. More strict with centering (can be good or bad depending on your prospective)

downfalls:
1. sell for less than equivalent psa grade
2. bad grading mistakes, trimmed cards, and preferential grading (see "eagle eye" joe clemons thread)

Bottom line: I like both and have used both for the above reasons.

I think most people like PSA because they sell for more, but I can only speak from my perspective.

edit: If anyone else can add to this, please do!

cardmole · 05-13-2020, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Raw dawg!

You got it man!
Of course you could always waste 1000s of dollars on worthless plastic opinions.

goodole13 · 05-13-2020, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cardmole

You got it man!
Of course you could always waste 1000s of dollars on worthless plastic opinions.

To be fair, it can also bring you thousands of dollars, too.

cardmole · 05-13-2020, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by goodole13

To be fair, it can also bring you thousands of dollars, too.

I know that. But we both know it's just a scam to make $5 cards into $50 cards.
Lots of people on this forum (you too?) make a killing doing this, and good for them. I post my anti-grading rants only to possibly benefit those newer collectors that may still be saved from this madness.

meandsharon11 · 05-13-2020, 05:18 PM

If you think your card is a 9 or 9.5 at best then send it to PSA

If you think your card is a sure PSA 10 then send it to Beckett. A BGS 10 will always beat a PSA 10, and the gold or black labels look better than paper in PSA

If you just want it for looks then go with what you like, but in any case you will pay more with BGS

PackRipper · 05-13-2020, 05:43 PM

head scratcher

GatorPie · 05-13-2020, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodole13

First of all, relax. There's nothing to get upset about. What makes you assume PSA won't have a higher resale in the future?

Lastly, how can you say nothing has changed? PSA has improved their cases greatly, they are far from flimsy.

Thank God you calmed me down. I was running around the room screaming, the police almost had to be called.

BGS is incompetent while PSA is flat-out corrupt. I think all the corruption could eventually start to hurt the company and the value of their cards. Personally I hope they go under and a number of people at that company go to prison. Won't happen, but it's a nice fantasy.

I've held the brand-new PSA cases. There's barely a difference from 20 years ago....they still rattle around inside just the same. To each his own.

ToppsFB · 05-14-2020, 09:42 PM

PSA! I've had about a dozen from Beckett. A high end 60s card somehow was graded as a Ex-NM 6 and had a straight up crease about an inch long on it front and back.

On the other hand, I have had several hundred PSA slabs and have never seen a wrinkle on anything 5 and over. Pretty consistent and honestly I like their cases better. The fact that they are stackable and have remained the same is bonus!

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giants0811 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 109	Psa or beckett ? what do you prefer and why?? THANKS

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asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 62,269 ohiosundevils	PSA PSA sells better PSA has better cases (yes I know this is personal preference - I hate how thick BGS slabs are - others completely disagree) PSA is better for collectors with OCD, which is me, because of the uniformity PSA has a better registry if you choose to participate PSA has a wider population report for low end stuff because it still sells well. This really only applies to my PC where I want some random Cleveland players RC in PSA 10 but a BGS 9.5 doesn't exist because it doesn't sell well enough to submit even via bulk order Those are just some of the reasons I chose PSA over BGS when I started my PC a few years ago. __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

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NoleinJax Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: No clue anymore Posts: 8,742 ilovetheseminoles	I prefer how cards look in PSA holders and their consistent labels, but can see why others prefer a thicker slab. Cards look duller to me in BGS slabs. __________________ Flickr (In Progress):https://www.flickr.com/photos/noleinjax/albums Looking for rare Jameis Winston rookies (Prizm White Sparkle, Gold Vinyl, etc), 1/1's and jersey #'d stuff.

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goodole13 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 5,112 goodole13 goodole13	It’s all personal preference; I have both. But go with PSA, better return if you decide to sell and the cases are outstanding. They’ve been using a stronger case the last few years and they’re far superior to their older cases. What people will try to argue is BGS cases are stronger, thicker, and so on. However, unless you’re throwing your cases around or constantly dropping them, that shouldn’t matter. I’ve never understood that argument. It really is just preference though, but PSA outsells BGS when it’s the same grade. __________________ PC: RAMS CONTENDERS ROOKIE TICKETS & DII CONTENDERS ROOKIE TICKETS SHOW-OFF THREADS --- *RAMS TICKETS* https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1285326 ***** DII TICKETS** https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1399475 https://sportscardalbum.com/u/goodole13 Last edited by goodole13; 05-13-2020 at 09:24 AM.

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bamafan3559 Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN Posts: 1,394 bamafan3559	For PC, I use Beckett since they have thicker encapsulation, but PSA typically brings more money for sales unless you get a BGS 10. It just depends on what you plan on doing with the card IMO.

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giants0811 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 109	thanks, guys , i noticed Beckett uses plastic sleeves on cards and PSA doesn't

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huskerman47 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,870	I used to be BGS all the way but prefer PSA much more now __________________ PC: Eli Manning

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LeonfromNC Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 15,219	SGC Because from what I’ve been told online is that SGC is cheaper to grade, faster turnarounds and has excellent customer service AND Apparently SGC sells the same as PSA/BGS lol I’m totally joking. SGC shouldn’t even be used in the same breath as PSA/BGS. I prefer PSA for resale value.

05-13-2020, 12:40 PM	#12
GatorPie Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 1,199	PSA clearly has higher resale value right now, but will that always be the case? I'm not so sure. I couldn't get over PSA's cheap cases when I first saw them in 1997, couldn't get over how crappy and flimsy they still were in 2007, and nothing has changed today.

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sethc1020 Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,545 sethc_1020	Its all about preference, sure PSA brings more value for whatever reason but I like to see the sub grades on the BGS cases. I've never personally submitted anything to PSA but would like to. I just hate their business model of grading cost based on the value of the card they are grading. What does the value matter? The grading and slabbing process is exactly the same for $1,000,000 card as it is for a $1 card. Then if they deem you card to be more valuable than you do they can charge you more no questions asked. Just seems a little shady to me. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/gp/151086784@N06/28H47r

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majestik101 Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Socially Distanced Posts: 42,355 majestik101	SGC clearly is a company that exists right now but will that always be the case? I'm not so sure. __________________ "Watson alone sells for over $20" https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1182760

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heatdawg Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 1,489 heatbreaker	SGC is making ground but still a long way to go until they can compete.

05-13-2020, 03:56 PM	#18
blackbears86 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: maine Posts: 17,072 blackbears86	I like: BOTH The case for PSA 1. Sell for more 2. The case (cards display better) depending on who you ask 3. the registry 4. the history downfalls: 1. Bad grading mistakes, trimmed cards, preferential grading. (see the latest issue in the baseball threads, they graded a high end reprint) 2. No "inner" sleeve--May or may not be an issue depending on who you ask. 3. Expensive if you have a high end card. 4. Looooooong turnaround times. The player you are grading may be ice cold by the time you get your cards back. The case for BGS 1. can sell for more than PSA (if 10 or black label) 2. The case (cards display better, depending on who you ask) more protection, have an inner sleeve 3. Faster turnaround time (slow but faster compared to PSA) 4. Less expensive if grading higher end cards 5. More strict with centering (can be good or bad depending on your prospective) downfalls: 1. sell for less than equivalent psa grade 2. bad grading mistakes, trimmed cards, and preferential grading (see "eagle eye" joe clemons thread) Bottom line: I like both and have used both for the above reasons. I think most people like PSA because they sell for more, but I can only speak from my perspective. edit: If anyone else can add to this, please do! Last edited by blackbears86; 05-13-2020 at 03:59 PM.

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meandsharon11 Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Where my meat loafs Posts: 5,012	If you think your card is a 9 or 9.5 at best then send it to PSA If you think your card is a sure PSA 10 then send it to Beckett. A BGS 10 will always beat a PSA 10, and the gold or black labels look better than paper in PSA If you just want it for looks then go with what you like, but in any case you will pay more with BGS __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/196644596@N08/albums

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PackRipper Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 351 thepackripper thepackripper	head scratcher Last edited by PackRipper; 06-23-2020 at 12:05 PM.

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ToppsFB Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Castle Rock, CO Posts: 244	PSA! I've had about a dozen from Beckett. A high end 60s card somehow was graded as a Ex-NM 6 and had a straight up crease about an inch long on it front and back. On the other hand, I have had several hundred PSA slabs and have never seen a wrinkle on anything 5 and over. Pretty consistent and honestly I like their cases better. The fact that they are stackable and have remained the same is bonus!