Anyone else having bad eBay experiences?

Baseball4life90 · 05-31-2020, 08:22 AM

Not sure if this should go here, but curious if it's something happening with the uptick in cards skyrocketing. Sold the same card twice in the last week and a half. Both times I had to open cases and both times unpaid item strikes were given. I've only had to ever open 3 cases prior to this in my whole eBay 'career'. What is going on?!

/end rant

pewe · 05-31-2020, 08:23 AM

2020 cards?

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Baseball4life90 · 05-31-2020, 08:24 AM

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2020 cards?

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Not necessarily. In this case it's a 2013 card. So, I'm not sure what kind of buyer's remorse there would be.

pewe · 05-31-2020, 08:26 AM

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Not necessarily. In this case it's a 2013 card. So, I'm not sure what kind of buyer's remorse there would be.

Wow! Ya - figured it is a “hot rookie” or something... wonder if someone else is auctioning the same card and wanted to create a false sense of price / demand?

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Baseball4life90 · 05-31-2020, 08:29 AM

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Wow! Ya - figured it is a “hot rookie” or something... wonder if someone else is auctioning the same card and wanted to create a false sense of price / demand?

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The card has sold previously for $50-75...for me- the first time it sold for 45 or so, and now it sold for 30. So, unless someone is trying to bring the price down, I don't know

... may just have to post it for sale here on BO, as typically the easiest to deal with on here.

pewe · 05-31-2020, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Baseball4life90

The card has sold previously for $50-75...for me- the first time it sold for 45 or so, and now it sold for 30. So, unless someone is trying to bring the price down, I don't know

... may just have to post it for sale here on BO, as typically the easiest to deal with on here.

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preakness · 05-31-2020, 08:52 AM

had two guys within seconds of winning separate auctions message me saying they need to cancel the auction because they bid by mistake

yeah right
classic case of trying to pump up an auction since they probably had similar card and wanted to inflate prices but ended up winning

i had no other choice but to give in and drop it
didn't want to risk bad blood and have them do crap to my other auctions

Dnic · 05-31-2020, 08:53 AM

Yah the best is when they are asking double even triple of what the same card has recently sold for smh

LCM1223 · 05-31-2020, 09:02 AM

Coincidences don’t take a day off for morons

Baseball4life90 · 05-31-2020, 09:35 AM

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Thank you!

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Originally Posted by preakness

had two guys within seconds of winning separate auctions message me saying they need to cancel the auction because they bid by mistake

yeah right
classic case of trying to pump up an auction since they probably had similar card and wanted to inflate prices but ended up winning

i had no other choice but to give in and drop it
didn't want to risk bad blood and have them do crap to my other auctions

Yeah, the second buyerh ad 0 feedback, so I'm curious if there's any relation to the first one. Unfortunately, I don't remember the shipping addresses- if they were similar or not. I just hate that eBay makes you wait 5 days until you can finally close a case. A person should have to pay within 24 hours. I would never buy an item and wait 2 days to pay...if I want the item, I want it shipped ASAP.

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Yah the best is when they are asking double even triple of what the same card has recently sold for smh

I only did it auction-style both times, as I had it up for a bit with OBO (fairly priced) and saw nobody was buying. The problem now is if I list it a third time, people may bid lower since the last two sold were mine..

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Coincidences don’t take a day off for morons

YouTheManNick · 05-31-2020, 10:05 AM

Due to all negative Ebay experiences I've been reading about lately I'm holding off on listing any cards there for the moment to avoid the headache.

I've had no issues buying. Then again, I won't buy from anyone with low / bad feedback.

Baseball4life90 · 05-31-2020, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by YouTheManNick

Due to all negative Ebay experiences I've been reading about lately I'm holding off on listing any cards there for the moment to avoid the headache.

I've had no issues buying. Then again, I won't buy from anyone with low / bad feedback.

Yep. Just, sometimes a card may garner more attention there versus on the BST here..I definitely agree with buying only from people with positive feedback. The first guy who purchased the card actually had bad feedback left as a 5 star comment. I knew when I saw that I was not going to get paid. The second guy had 0 feedback. I wish there was some kind of way eBay could prevent buyers with 0 feedback from bidding, but at some point we all have/had 0 feedback.

HarryLime · 05-31-2020, 10:24 AM

I've been on eBay since 1999. I have had one bad experience as a seller. In the past week I got someone doing a BS return and an offer/failure to pay. I'm thinking about just pulling the handful of cards I have up.

Arthur

shrevecity · 05-31-2020, 10:40 AM

Problem bidders occur at about 1 in every 2 to 300 buyers for me. The truth is people only talk about the negative transactions and forget about the hundreds maybe thousands of transactions that go off on Ebay daily without a hitch. If a few speed bumps are going to make you stop selling then maybe online selling is not for you.

Stech36 · 05-31-2020, 10:42 AM

I’ve sold tens of thousands of cards and can really only remember 1 really bad experience. Returns are annoying, but part of the risk you run with eBay.

I mean it’s a hassle, but do you really not want to sell on eBay because of non paying buyers and returns? It’s the scams that are a problem like getting a different card than you sent in a return

The Chad · 05-31-2020, 10:44 AM

I just had a card I won cancelled. Made an offer, went back and forth a few times, won it. Paid instantly. 12 hours later cancelled. Seller had a few negs already, and they got another one from me.

TimBuckTwo · 05-31-2020, 10:51 AM

Maybe a handful per year. Just deal with it and move on. I had one card sold and returned twice LOL. Third time was a charm.

oldgoldy97 · 05-31-2020, 10:54 AM

A skyrocket in prices in the matter of weeks then a deluge of back outs and non payments? People are actually surprised by this?

oddstuff · 05-31-2020, 11:07 AM

Without a doubt the frequency of buyers who suddenly have lost their ability to read simple words have increased in the past few months. New buyers are jumping into the fray and making purchases thinking they've scored a steal only to find seconds later the words they thought they saw in the listing description have magically disappear. It's frustrating but nothing you can do about it except to cancel, relist and move on with your life (seller perspective - as a long time buyer, I've never asked to cancel a purchase).

jayjones82 · 05-31-2020, 11:10 AM

I’m having a card end at auction tonight for the 3rd time. The previous 2 bidders failed to pay. One replied that he received a recently-purchased card in bad shape and wanted to take a break from eBay (oh, please). It’s not a Project 2020.

shrevecity · 05-31-2020, 11:13 AM

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I’m having a card end at auction tonight for the 3rd time. The previous 2 bidders failed to pay. One replied that he received a recently-purchased card in bad shape and wanted to take a break from eBay (oh, please). It’s not a Project 2020.

That is not just cards. Any seller who sells enough seems to have cursed items. I had a vintage cap I finally sold last month that had been sold and relisted 4 times due to non-payment. But again these are just odd situations.

At end of the day I would rather have a buyer not pay or cancel than have them pay and then have the ball in their court. Its a much bigger headache.

ExpFacilitators · 05-31-2020, 11:14 AM

There will be spillover from the 2020 debacle. I'm sure there are zero people on this forum who made any mistakes :eyeroll:

but it's not just crazy "hot" cards that are the problem...when people liquidate, they liquidate everything. I don't do a lot of selling (and I have done zero on eBay in 10 years), but I never had any issues with anything until the past 2 weeks where 80% of everything I've sold has run into some kind of issue. I am so thankful I dont sell cards for a living. Between the over-levered buyers and the hilarious (lack of) balance of power between buyers and sellers, I dont know how anyone deals with it.

Baseball4life90 · 05-31-2020, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryLime

I've been on eBay since 1999. I have had one bad experience as a seller. In the past week I got someone doing a BS return and an offer/failure to pay. I'm thinking about just pulling the handful of cards I have up.

Arthur

I've also rarely had ANY negative experiences. As I stated earlier, I had only a couple of previous NPB cases opened. I don't think I'll stop selling, I just will start to only place BIN OBO and have immediate payment due.

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Problem bidders occur at about 1 in every 2 to 300 buyers for me. The truth is people only talk about the negative transactions and forget about the hundreds maybe thousands of transactions that go off on Ebay daily without a hitch. If a few speed bumps are going to make you stop selling then maybe online selling is not for you.

As a buyer, I've rarely had bad experiences- and only then it's just been late shipments. As a seller, I rarely sell on eBay- maybe 20-50 items per year..I wanted to hop back into it, as it's a lot easier to garner offers and such on eBay than here. It's just with this one card, unfortunately, people are buying and not paying.

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I’ve sold tens of thousands of cards and can really only remember 1 really bad experience. Returns are annoying, but part of the risk you run with eBay.

I mean it’s a hassle, but do you really not want to sell on eBay because of non paying buyers and returns? It’s the scams that are a problem like getting a different card than you sent in a return

I actually have never had anyone ask to return any card. It's just the non paying buyers. I sell mostly older cards (2008-2018)...as such, the cards I sell aren't the Tatis', Guerrero's, and Dominguez's- which baffles me more as to why people wouldn't want to pay..

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Originally Posted by The Chad

I just had a card I won cancelled. Made an offer, went back and forth a few times, won it. Paid instantly. 12 hours later cancelled. Seller had a few negs already, and they got another one from me.

The only reason I'm not cancelling is because I don't want to get any negatives. I'm entirely curious as to whether the second buyer is simply the first buyer who's upset that I opened a case against him.. lol.

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Maybe a handful per year. Just deal with it and move on. I had one card sold and returned twice LOL. Third time was a charm.

Wow- that's annoying!

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

A skyrocket in prices in the matter of weeks then a deluge of back outs and non payments? People are actually surprised by this?

It's a 2013 football card. Not a 2020 Dominguez- that's what I'm surprised about..there's not much room for seller remorse, as it's literallly a 30-50 dollar card, not a 1200$ Trout Auto.

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Originally Posted by oddstuff

Without a doubt the frequency of buyers who suddenly have lost their ability to read simple words have increased in the past few months. New buyers are jumping into the fray and making purchases thinking they've scored a steal only to find seconds later the words they thought they saw in the listing description have magically disappear. It's frustrating but nothing you can do about it except to cancel, relist and move on with your life (seller perspective - as a long time buyer, I've never asked to cancel a purchase).

Exactly, I've also never asked to cancel a purchase, nor have I ever returned any card. I am only paying for, or bidding on a card, that I truly want either for my PC or to invest in.

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Originally Posted by jayjones82

I’m having a card end at auction tonight for the 3rd time. The previous 2 bidders failed to pay. One replied that he received a recently-purchased card in bad shape and wanted to take a break from eBay (oh, please). It’s not a Project 2020.

Baseball4life90 · 05-31-2020, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ExpFacilitators

There will be spillover from the 2020 debacle. I'm sure there are zero people on this forum who made any mistakes :eyeroll:

but it's not just crazy "hot" cards that are the problem...when people liquidate, they liquidate everything. I don't do a lot of selling (and I have done zero on eBay in 10 years), but I never had any issues with anything until the past 2 weeks where 80% of everything I've sold has run into some kind of issue. I am so thankful I dont sell cards for a living. Between the over-levered buyers and the hilarious (lack of) balance of power between buyers and sellers, I dont know how anyone deals with it.

I also rarely sell, but because of this 'trend', as soon as I am eligible to open a case, I open a case. I don't send 500 invoices. I send one invoice, one message, and then as soon as I can- I open the case and hope the person won't pay, as I don't want to deal with continuing problems.

shrevecity · 05-31-2020, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Baseball4life90

I also rarely sell, but because of this 'trend', as soon as I am eligible to open a case, I open a case. I don't send 500 invoices. I send one invoice, one message, and then as soon as I can- I open the case and hope the person won't pay, as I don't want to deal with continuing problems.

I don't send invoices unless I need to edit it for one reason or another or messages. just file the case and move on.

05-31-2020, 08:22 AM	#1
Baseball4life90 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Philly Posts: 2,032 baseball4life90	Anyone else having bad eBay experiences? Not sure if this should go here, but curious if it's something happening with the uptick in cards skyrocketing. Sold the same card twice in the last week and a half. Both times I had to open cases and both times unpaid item strikes were given. I've only had to ever open 3 cases prior to this in my whole eBay 'career'. What is going on?! /end rant __________________ Flickr Link: https://www.flickr.com/photos/197630172@N02/albums I collect: Phillies/HOFers- AU's, GU, and numbered.

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YouTheManNick Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2,567 trapjaw73 YTMN	Due to all negative Ebay experiences I've been reading about lately I'm holding off on listing any cards there for the moment to avoid the headache. I've had no issues buying. Then again, I won't buy from anyone with low / bad feedback. __________________ They're = they are. Their = possession. There = "I went there." Two = 2. Too = "Me too." To = "He went to the card show." Your = "your cards." You're = "you're welcome."

05-31-2020, 10:44 AM	#16
The Chad Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 2,656	I just had a card I won cancelled. Made an offer, went back and forth a few times, won it. Paid instantly. 12 hours later cancelled. Seller had a few negs already, and they got another one from me. __________________ Looking for: Rare Ernie Banks Allen & Ginter Cards 2014 Topps High Tek Ernie Banks Blue Dots Diffractor #/5 Follow me on Instagram: ispendtoomuchoncards

05-31-2020, 10:54 AM	#18
oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50,473	A skyrocket in prices in the matter of weeks then a deluge of back outs and non payments? People are actually surprised by this? __________________ Truly riveting discussion: that’s what your wife/girlfriend/sheep said.

05-31-2020, 08:23 AM	#2
pewe Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 26,641	2020 cards? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-31-2020, 08:52 AM	#7
preakness Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Johnny Ryno's soul Posts: 21,077	had two guys within seconds of winning separate auctions message me saying they need to cancel the auction because they bid by mistake yeah right classic case of trying to pump up an auction since they probably had similar card and wanted to inflate prices but ended up winning i had no other choice but to give in and drop it didn't want to risk bad blood and have them do crap to my other auctions

05-31-2020, 08:53 AM	#8
Dnic Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,277	Yah the best is when they are asking double even triple of what the same card has recently sold for smh

05-31-2020, 10:24 AM	#13
HarryLime Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spaceball 1 Posts: 4,794	I've been on eBay since 1999. I have had one bad experience as a seller. In the past week I got someone doing a BS return and an offer/failure to pay. I'm thinking about just pulling the handful of cards I have up. Arthur

05-31-2020, 10:40 AM	#14
shrevecity Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 28,059	Problem bidders occur at about 1 in every 2 to 300 buyers for me. The truth is people only talk about the negative transactions and forget about the hundreds maybe thousands of transactions that go off on Ebay daily without a hitch. If a few speed bumps are going to make you stop selling then maybe online selling is not for you.

05-31-2020, 10:42 AM	#15
Stech36 Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 9,540 Stech36	I’ve sold tens of thousands of cards and can really only remember 1 really bad experience. Returns are annoying, but part of the risk you run with eBay. I mean it’s a hassle, but do you really not want to sell on eBay because of non paying buyers and returns? It’s the scams that are a problem like getting a different card than you sent in a return

05-31-2020, 10:51 AM	#17
TimBuckTwo Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,070	Maybe a handful per year. Just deal with it and move on. I had one card sold and returned twice LOL. Third time was a charm.

05-31-2020, 11:07 AM	#19
oddstuff Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: CA Posts: 5,100	Without a doubt the frequency of buyers who suddenly have lost their ability to read simple words have increased in the past few months. New buyers are jumping into the fray and making purchases thinking they've scored a steal only to find seconds later the words they thought they saw in the listing description have magically disappear. It's frustrating but nothing you can do about it except to cancel, relist and move on with your life (seller perspective - as a long time buyer, I've never asked to cancel a purchase).

05-31-2020, 11:10 AM	#20
jayjones82 Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: GA to Germany to TX Posts: 3,450	I’m having a card end at auction tonight for the 3rd time. The previous 2 bidders failed to pay. One replied that he received a recently-purchased card in bad shape and wanted to take a break from eBay (oh, please). It’s not a Project 2020.

05-31-2020, 11:14 AM	#22
ExpFacilitators Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Rock Chalk Posts: 2,617 1958snap	There will be spillover from the 2020 debacle. I'm sure there are zero people on this forum who made any mistakes :eyeroll: but it's not just crazy "hot" cards that are the problem...when people liquidate, they liquidate everything. I don't do a lot of selling (and I have done zero on eBay in 10 years), but I never had any issues with anything until the past 2 weeks where 80% of everything I've sold has run into some kind of issue. I am so thankful I dont sell cards for a living. Between the over-levered buyers and the hilarious (lack of) balance of power between buyers and sellers, I dont know how anyone deals with it. __________________ Soccer and Prizm low-numbered and/or PSA 10s of: Thunder, pacers, JJJ, Giannis, Jokic.