Front and Back of the Card

Cal27 · 07-29-2020, 02:18 PM

I used to collect Magic the Gathering cards when I was in high school. I would buy singles on ebay. What annoyed me was the seller would only post the front of the card. I would have to ask the seller to post a picture of the back of the card. Even if the card was only $50, I want to see the exact card that I was buying with my hard earned money.

Fast forward to now...when people throw thousands of dollar on a sports card. I am amazed how many sellers still do not post the the back of the card. Even if it is a PSA 10, the centering of the back of the card could still be off. Would you buy a car or a house without looking at the interior?

So please post a picture of the front and back of the card.

Whodey14 · 07-29-2020, 02:20 PM

I'm not really a condition sensitive collector. Back photos aren't something I really look for unless theirs additional autos.

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psd2k10 · 07-29-2020, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal27

I used to collect Magic the Gathering cards when I was in high school. I would buy singles on ebay. What annoyed me was the seller would only post the front of the card. I would have to ask the seller to post a picture of the back of the card. Even if the card was only $50, I want to see the exact card that I was buying with my hard earned money.

Fast forward to now...when people throw thousands of dollar on a sports card. I am amazed how many sellers still do not post the the back of the card. Even if it is a PSA 10, the centering of the back of the card could still be off. Would you buy a car or a house without looking at the interior?

So please post a picture of the front and back of the card.

it's called being lazy. If a seller only shows the front of the card, that tell me they are hiding something and I automatically skip through it.

JoeAdam · 07-29-2020, 02:25 PM

I don't see the need to take a picture of the back of a PSA 10 card. Unless the serial number is on the back.

ClipsandVols · 07-29-2020, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

I don't see the need to take a picture of the back of a PSA 10 card. Unless the serial number is on the back.

Buy the card, not the grade.

Cal27 · 07-29-2020, 03:43 PM

How much extra time does it take to post the back of the card?

Transparency is important in any sale. It is good for both the seller and the buyer. If the seller did not post the back of the card, the buyer could potentially return the card because the buyer does not like the back of the card after receiving it in the mail.

istheskyblew · 07-29-2020, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal27

How much extra time does it take to post the back of the card?

Transparency is important in any sale. It is good for both the seller and the buyer. If the seller did not post the back of the card, the buyer could potentially return the card because the buyer does not like the back of the card after receiving it in the mail.

depends on internet uploading speeds

byronscott4ever · 07-29-2020, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal27

How much extra time does it take to post the back of the card?

Transparency is important in any sale. It is good for both the seller and the buyer. If the seller did not post the back of the card, the buyer could potentially return the card because the buyer does not like the back of the card after receiving it in the mail.

Twice as much time?

I normally skip the back unless it’s a higher end card or has a serial number on there. If someone wants a back scan they can request it.

JustRachel · 07-29-2020, 04:14 PM

No back, no bid. You're costing yourself money by not posting back pics.

psd2k10 · 07-29-2020, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

No back, no bid. You're costing yourself money by not posting back pics.

Agreed! Automatic skip.

packerfan4200 · 07-29-2020, 04:33 PM

Agree. Almost always an auto-skip for me too.

JustRachel · 07-30-2020, 04:02 PM

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JoeAdam · 07-30-2020, 04:06 PM

I had a front and back picture today of a PSA 10 and had a buyer ask for more pictures of the card to see the centering and surface....it's a PSA 10

Prince1Yashua · 07-30-2020, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

I had a front and back picture today of a PSA 10 and had a buyer ask for more pictures of the card to see the centering and surface....it's a PSA 10

Maybe he wants to crossover to BGS?

Harper · 07-30-2020, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

I had a front and back picture today of a PSA 10 and had a buyer ask for more pictures of the card to see the centering and surface....it's a PSA 10

Not all PSA 10s are the same. I passed on 10-15 PSA 10 1987 Fleer Ron Harper RC before buying one I thought actually warranted the grade.

Most collectors are only going to pay for the premium of a graded card if they agree with the grade. Investors don't really care as the grade is more the commodity than the card. It's a game of knowing your audience. If you have an obscure player and you are trying to target a player collector or a set collector, your PSA 10 is going to be judged very closely. If you have a rube who is just looking for an investment flip on a potential or hyped player,the only thing that matters is probably the grade... just take a pic of the label and leave the card out of the pics.

Every time I've bought a graded card without the back pictured on the auction, the back of the card looks like trash. Every time I regret the purchase. Won't happen again.

bmf · 07-30-2020, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal27

I used to collect Magic the Gathering cards when I was in high school. I would buy singles on ebay. What annoyed me was the seller would only post the front of the card. I would have to ask the seller to post a picture of the back of the card. Even if the card was only $50, I want to see the exact card that I was buying with my hard earned money.

Fast forward to now...when people throw thousands of dollar on a sports card. I am amazed how many sellers still do not post the the back of the card. Even if it is a PSA 10, the centering of the back of the card could still be off. Would you buy a car or a house without looking at the interior?

So please post a picture of the front and back of the card.

Great post. I don’t get it either. I would never buy a card without seeing a good photo of the back.

mindcycle · 07-30-2020, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Harper

Not all PSA 10s are the same. I passed on 10-15 PSA 10 1987 Fleer Ron Harper RC before buying one I thought actually warranted the grade.

Most collectors are only going to pay for the premium of a graded card if they agree with the grade. Investors don't really care as the grade is more the commodity than the card. It's a game of knowing your audience. If you have an obscure player and you are trying to target a player collector or a set collector, your PSA 10 is going to be judged very closely. If you have a rube who is just looking for an investment flip on a potential or hyped player,the only thing that matters is probably the grade... just take a pic of the label and leave the card out of the pics.

Every time I've bought a graded card without the back pictured on the auction, the back of the card looks like trash. Every time I regret the purchase. Won't happen again.

This is the sad reality for lots of "collectors" right now. Someone needs to setup a card site where you just browse and buy labels.

BRob1 · 07-30-2020, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

I had a front and back picture today of a PSA 10 and had a buyer ask for more pictures of the card to see the centering and surface....it's a PSA 10

Not all 10’s are the same. On high dollar cards I’d for sure need to see a solid pic of the centering to get comfortable. It’s the one thing you can validate through pics...corners surface edges not so much.

Justin7 · 07-30-2020, 08:02 PM

Front and back common sense. Biggest offenders are giant liquidation type sellers who mass-scan.

Myerburg311 · 07-30-2020, 08:07 PM

sellers who list and sell large quantities don't have time to do front and back for lower dollar cards

Justin7 · 07-30-2020, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Myerburg311

Some* sellers who list and sell large quantities don't have time to do front and back for lower dollar cards

A lot of sellers list in large quantities and do both

. A lot.

JustRachel · 07-30-2020, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Myerburg311

sellers who list and sell large quantities don't have time to do front and back for lower dollar cards

That's cool. If they don't want my business, no prob. If they don't want me bidding up their auctions, cool.

I'll post pics front and back and grab up sales they don't want.

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07-29-2020, 02:18 PM	#1
Cal27 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: California Posts: 265	Front and Back of the Card I used to collect Magic the Gathering cards when I was in high school. I would buy singles on ebay. What annoyed me was the seller would only post the front of the card. I would have to ask the seller to post a picture of the back of the card. Even if the card was only $50, I want to see the exact card that I was buying with my hard earned money. Fast forward to now...when people throw thousands of dollar on a sports card. I am amazed how many sellers still do not post the the back of the card. Even if it is a PSA 10, the centering of the back of the card could still be off. Would you buy a car or a house without looking at the interior? So please post a picture of the front and back of the card.

07-29-2020, 02:20 PM	#2
Whodey14 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Kentucky Posts: 9,769	I'm not really a condition sensitive collector. Back photos aren't something I really look for unless theirs additional autos. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk __________________ thesportcardking on IG

07-29-2020, 02:25 PM	#4
JoeAdam Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,011 sjoteo joeadam	I don't see the need to take a picture of the back of a PSA 10 card. Unless the serial number is on the back. __________________ @the_ace_of_cards on IG “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take - Wayne Gretzky” - Michael Scott

07-30-2020, 04:06 PM	#13
JoeAdam Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,011 sjoteo joeadam	I had a front and back picture today of a PSA 10 and had a buyer ask for more pictures of the card to see the centering and surface....it's a PSA 10 __________________ @the_ace_of_cards on IG “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take - Wayne Gretzky” - Michael Scott

07-29-2020, 03:43 PM	#6
Cal27 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: California Posts: 265	How much extra time does it take to post the back of the card? Transparency is important in any sale. It is good for both the seller and the buyer. If the seller did not post the back of the card, the buyer could potentially return the card because the buyer does not like the back of the card after receiving it in the mail.

07-29-2020, 04:14 PM	#9
JustRachel Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 5,663	No back, no bid. You're costing yourself money by not posting back pics.

07-29-2020, 04:33 PM	#11
packerfan4200 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Titletown USA Posts: 4,769 packerfan4200 packerfan4200	Agree. Almost always an auto-skip for me too.

07-30-2020, 04:02 PM	#12
JustRachel Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 5,663	. Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk

07-30-2020, 08:02 PM	#19
Justin7 Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: OG Philly Posts: 2,788	Front and back common sense. Biggest offenders are giant liquidation type sellers who mass-scan.

07-30-2020, 08:07 PM	#20
Myerburg311 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,939 sportsnutcards	sellers who list and sell large quantities don't have time to do front and back for lower dollar cards