Do y'all think the weak draft class will impact the hobby this year?

bamagrad03 · 11-22-2020, 10:04 AM

2020 was a perfect storm to boost the hobby and the strong NNA draft class certainly helped.

This year's class seems to lack gravitas, which could lessen the early frenzy that starts the momentum.

What do y'all think?

Davis · 11-22-2020, 10:14 AM

Yes.

Drain the cesspool.

KhalDrogo · 11-22-2020, 10:14 AM

Yes. People will spend more money on the last three draft classes. Already happening.

oldgoldy97 · 11-22-2020, 10:15 AM

Good thing we have at least another month of 19-20 products coming out.

GeechQuest · 11-22-2020, 10:23 AM

I’d expect there to be value in this seasons wax.

I think the more interesting component is that Prizm isn’t coming out until the halfway point of the season.

LovelyLlamas · 11-22-2020, 10:33 AM

2018: Luka, Young, Shai, Ayton, MPJ, JJJ, Bagley, Sexton

A weak 2020 class means more time for me to focus on this class

Braswell10 · 11-22-2020, 10:41 AM

Nope. People may not buy the 2020 draft class, but they will buy other players. This won’t hurt the hobby at all.

ThoseBackPages · 11-22-2020, 10:44 AM

#WaxAlwaysWins

DajuanWagner · 11-22-2020, 10:57 AM

Flippers don't care about a draft class. They only care about collecting dead president's. As long as FOMO is real, wax will always stay strong......

k13 · 11-22-2020, 10:58 AM

No. Players will get hot.
No one cared about the Luka draft till later.

NBA is a joke is its not hard for scrubs to put up decent numbers.

Luka would never be putting up triple doubles in a non-joke environment.

Just look at the nba trends.

Birdanski · 11-22-2020, 12:38 PM

Luka wouldn't be putting up triple doubles in another era? LOL.

hwc · 11-22-2020, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

No. Players will get hot.
No one cared about the Luka draft till later.

NBA is a joke is its not hard for scrubs to put up decent numbers.

Luka would never be putting up triple doubles in a non-joke environment.

Just look at the nba trends.

Your hatred for Luka is hilarious. Many people recognized Luka being a generational talent a year before his draft so to say that no one cared of his draft class till the season played out is false.

The playing style for the NBA currently does bode well for players to put up numbers but you have to look at the numbers in context.

sebreg · 11-22-2020, 12:46 PM

Luka would be great in any era. If you watch old-school ball, sure there were some absolute defensive stalwarts, but even some of the top-echelon teams had tissue soft defense at times (especially transition defense). I think people mistake hard fouls for good defense, and just because more hard fouls were allowed back in the day doesn't mean the defense was necessarily all-around good. Paper tiger 80s Nuggets were consistently putting up ridiculous offensive numbers...

sebreg · 11-22-2020, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

Nope. People may not buy the 2020 draft class, but they will buy other players. This won’t hurt the hobby at all.

Even if this class ends up with a lack of big time performers, I think so long as big-time early career guys like Trae, Luka, Zion, Ja have big seasons hobby interest will continue at a hot pace.

Onepocketj · 11-22-2020, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

No. Players will get hot.
No one cared about the Luka draft till later.

NBA is a joke is its not hard for scrubs to put up decent numbers.

Luka would never be putting up triple doubles in a non-joke environment.

Just look at the nba trends.

Lmao. One of the most idiotic things I've seen on this site and that's saying something.

oldgoldy97 · 11-22-2020, 01:20 PM

Don’t forget about Ja and Zion second year rookies, Luka third year rookies and Lebron second year Lakers Prizm rookies.

Rookies galore this year!

Chris P · 11-22-2020, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Lmao. One of the most idiotic things I've seen on this site and that's saying something.

I never take his takes seriously in any sport (unless he's different with his hockey takes..i dont follow hockey)

Chris P · 11-22-2020, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k13

No. Players will get hot.
No one cared about the Luka draft till later.

NBA is a joke is its not hard for scrubs to put up decent numbers.

Luka would never be putting up triple doubles in a non-joke environment.

Just look at the nba trends.

I also find it funny how much you crap all over the NBA but run around clearing shelves of this "awful brand of product". I get it...profit..but its just funny to me

k13 · 11-22-2020, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hwc

Your hatred for Luka is hilarious. Many people recognized Luka being a generational talent a year before his draft so to say that no one cared of his draft class till the season played out is false.

The playing style for the NBA currently does bode well for players to put up numbers but you have to look at the numbers in context.

Generational talent yet he gets passed by Marvin Bagley/Ayton in the draft.
All those scouts and great minds yet they never saw it.

LC2nine10 · 11-22-2020, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

Generational talent yet he gets passed by Marvin Bagley/Ayton in the draft.
All those scouts and great minds yet they never saw it.

Stupid comment dude.
Scouts are wrong all the time. Kobe was pick 13, guess he wasn't very good.
I've heard tom brady wasn't a first round talent either.

You're just so, so, wrong in just about everything.

k13 · 11-22-2020, 02:28 PM

You guys know in the late 90's, late 2000's the league averaged 95 ppg and now its over 110 ppg.

The FG % and 3FG % are exactly the same so players never got any better or efficient.

Just more shots so more points so more assists so more rebounds.

Yet you eat up all these BS.

How do you think Russell Westbrook gets all these triple doubles...
He's garbage.

Birdanski · 11-22-2020, 02:33 PM

terrible argument. If you are talking about the league as a whole, then yes offensive numbers have gone up. If you are talking about Doncic not putting up triple-double numbers in a different era then you are just wrong. LOL.

Chris P · 11-22-2020, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

Generational talent yet he gets passed by Marvin Bagley/Ayton in the draft.
All those scouts and great minds yet they never saw it.

And steph got passed over by 5 teams (one team twice)..kobe 12 teams..tom brady last rd pick ..so who cares really where they get drafted

Chris P · 11-22-2020, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LC2nine10

Stupid comment dude.
Scouts are wrong all the time. Kobe was pick 13, guess he wasn't very good.
I've heard tom brady wasn't a first round talent either.

You're just so, so, wrong in just about everything.

He's a pessmistic hater on everything....he hates trout too surprise surprise

k13 · 11-22-2020, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdanski

terrible argument. If you are talking about the league as a whole, then yes offensive numbers have gone up. If you are talking about Doncic not putting up triple-double numbers in a different era then you are just wrong. LOL.

Why are triple doubles at all time high the last couple years?

The players must be so amazing...

11-22-2020, 10:04 AM	#1
bamagrad03 Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 63	Do y'all think the weak draft class will impact the hobby this year? 2020 was a perfect storm to boost the hobby and the strong NNA draft class certainly helped. This year's class seems to lack gravitas, which could lessen the early frenzy that starts the momentum. What do y'all think?

11-22-2020, 10:15 AM	#4
oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 53,434	Good thing we have at least another month of 19-20 products coming out. __________________ Truly riveting discussion: that’s what your wife/girlfriend/sheep said.

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11-22-2020, 10:57 AM	#9
DajuanWagner Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 7,428	Flippers don't care about a draft class. They only care about collecting dead president's. As long as FOMO is real, wax will always stay strong...... __________________ *"You said the link to the Prizm hanhers was no longer available and out of stock. You lied, dreams of hoarding Prizm died."* -mc1 8.6.20

11-22-2020, 12:46 PM	#13
sebreg Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,734 cardcollecting82	Luka would be great in any era. If you watch old-school ball, sure there were some absolute defensive stalwarts, but even some of the top-echelon teams had tissue soft defense at times (especially transition defense). I think people mistake hard fouls for good defense, and just because more hard fouls were allowed back in the day doesn't mean the defense was necessarily all-around good. Paper tiger 80s Nuggets were consistently putting up ridiculous offensive numbers... __________________ Cards: http://www.instagram.com/cardcollecting82 My artwork: http://www.instagram.com/sebreg Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/190656817@N03/albums

11-22-2020, 10:14 AM	#2
Davis Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Denver Posts: 6,517	Yes. Drain the cesspool.

11-22-2020, 10:14 AM	#3
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,520	Yes. People will spend more money on the last three draft classes. Already happening.

11-22-2020, 10:23 AM	#5
GeechQuest Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 10,779 GeechQuest	I’d expect there to be value in this seasons wax. I think the more interesting component is that Prizm isn’t coming out until the halfway point of the season.

11-22-2020, 10:33 AM	#6
LovelyLlamas Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 660	2018: Luka, Young, Shai, Ayton, MPJ, JJJ, Bagley, Sexton A weak 2020 class means more time for me to focus on this class

11-22-2020, 10:41 AM	#7
Braswell10 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 9,478 o7star	Nope. People may not buy the 2020 draft class, but they will buy other players. This won’t hurt the hobby at all.

11-22-2020, 10:58 AM	#10
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	No. Players will get hot. No one cared about the Luka draft till later. NBA is a joke is its not hard for scrubs to put up decent numbers. Luka would never be putting up triple doubles in a non-joke environment. Just look at the nba trends.

11-22-2020, 12:38 PM	#11
Birdanski Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Minnesota Posts: 403 Birdanski	Luka wouldn't be putting up triple doubles in another era? LOL.

11-22-2020, 01:20 PM	#16
oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 53,434	Don’t forget about Ja and Zion second year rookies, Luka third year rookies and Lebron second year Lakers Prizm rookies. Rookies galore this year! __________________ Truly riveting discussion: that’s what your wife/girlfriend/sheep said.

11-22-2020, 02:28 PM	#21
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	You guys know in the late 90's, late 2000's the league averaged 95 ppg and now its over 110 ppg. The FG % and 3FG % are exactly the same so players never got any better or efficient. Just more shots so more points so more assists so more rebounds. Yet you eat up all these BS. How do you think Russell Westbrook gets all these triple doubles... He's garbage.

11-22-2020, 02:33 PM	#22
Birdanski Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Minnesota Posts: 403 Birdanski	terrible argument. If you are talking about the league as a whole, then yes offensive numbers have gone up. If you are talking about Doncic not putting up triple-double numbers in a different era then you are just wrong. LOL.