Upper Deck French Boxes...

k13 · 01-05-2021, 10:31 AM

Remember these were huge in the 90s till the cronies at Upper Deck printed more and flooded the market.

Eventually they had the same value as the English version.

Looking at PSA pop reports there's a huge disparity in population for the french 90-92 ud rookies.

Also there's barely any French wax boxes for sale.

Did it all dry up? Was the reprint not as huge as initially thought? Are people not listing them thinking they are still $10 a box?

The Jagr looks like it has 5% of the population of OPC premier..

Thoughts..

glen87 · 01-05-2021, 11:27 AM

do people today even know their is a difference in those?

i found a couple instances on ebay where french boxes are available or have been sold without noting they are the french version.

rohara99 · 01-05-2021, 11:35 AM

I collect all the 90's things and I have zero desire to own the french versions. In fact when I starting adding to my graded 90's rc collection a couple months ago I avoided the french copies.

k13 · 01-05-2021, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rohara99

I collect all the 90's things and I have zero desire to own the french versions. In fact when I starting adding to my graded 90's rc collection a couple months ago I avoided the french copies.

Jagr is $500 now in French psa.

If pop report does not swell up they should easy be $1000.

k13 · 01-05-2021, 11:55 AM

There's a box that sold for $200 cad recently.

If 1989 UD baseball can sell high then..

Archangel1775 · 01-05-2021, 11:59 AM

There were numerous cases available for $420 plus shipping last summer. If you didnt get in then, looks elsewhere.

Bigduga · 01-05-2021, 12:55 PM

Yup...i bought a small boatload of 90/91 and 91/92 UD French at like 25 dollars a box to pull rookies out of in like...July - they were everywhere.

I would imagine there’s a ton of French jagrs and bures and haseks about to hit the grading queue...check the pops in about six months.

mcwildcats · 01-05-2021, 01:42 PM

I need to dig out how many of the French UD boxes I own. I bought a bunch years ago and still have them all sealed. Also have several OPC Premier boxes and factory sets along with a bunch of sealed Canadian Score (who doesn't have that?).

k13 · 01-05-2021, 01:54 PM

If all the cases/boxes get opened they'll just be less of them out there.

Plus you might only get a few PSA 10s of jagr per case.
So pop won't get that much bigger.

The English one is way higher and Jagr is still setting new records.

k13 · 01-05-2021, 01:56 PM

I have some boxes. Wondering why so little left if they supposedly made a tons of it.

Barely any here locally on marketplace.

Bigduga · 01-05-2021, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

I have some boxes. Wondering why so little left if they supposedly made a tons of it.

Because most people that have been sitting on it don’t realize it’s suddenly selling for 8x what it did a couple months ago.

mcwildcats · 01-05-2021, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigduga

Because most people that have been sitting on it don’t realize it’s suddenly selling for 8x what it did a couple months ago.

Whoa, is that so? Me off to check eBay completed sales:

valleynuckfan · 01-05-2021, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mcwildcats

Whoa, is that so? Me off to check eBay completed sales:

I was selling '90 OPCP boxes in the spring for $185/box and was pretty happy about it....now it's pushing $400. Yeesh!

mcwildcats · 01-05-2021, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

I was selling '90 OPCP boxes in the spring for $185/box and was pretty happy about it....now it's pushing $400. Yeesh!

Man, I just checked and that's what I saw on those. Love to see that. I think I bought mine a long time ago around $100 or so each. Looks like the Hi-Number UD French are all over the place ($50-80 or so). Pretty sure I bought what I have of those for $15-20 or so many years ago.

davis20009 · 01-05-2021, 09:55 PM

Check the Upper Deck PSA cards from 1990 and 1991 and make sure that they are actually the English versions or if PSA screwed up and but a French card in. Over the years I have bought 2 different Upper Deck RCs thinking I was buying the English version in PSA 10 only to find when the card arrived that while the PSA 10 label was stating it was the regular Upper Deck card it unfortunately had the French version of the card encapsulated.

Here is a John LeClair RC I have with this problem.

(Occasionally PSA puts Topps cards in 1968-1989 O-Pee-Chee hockey labels as well and vice versa) Here is a 1980 O-Pee-Chee card I have in a Topps labeled holder

PRoy33Collector · 01-06-2021, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

I was selling '90 OPCP boxes in the spring for $185/box and was pretty happy about it....now it's pushing $400. Yeesh!

I bought one for $139 from BBCE in the summer. So glad I pulled the trigger on it seeing those prices now.

k13 · 01-08-2021, 09:49 PM

Picking up two more locally.

Are these bricked when you open?
Been a while since I cracked some.

Bigduga · 01-09-2021, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

Picking up two more locally.

Are these bricked when you open?
Been a while since I cracked some.

If by bricked you mean stuck together - no. None of them are glossy enough to stick together. There’s a lot of fuzzy edges in early UD, and you’ll get whatever surface you open them on absolutely covered with flakes of foil-paper that’s brittle from having sat thirty years...but surface wise the 90/91 and 91/92 UD are still way good.

You’re also going to get a pack or two in every box with a pie-crust short edge because a card got crimped with the pack. (I got a pie-crust Canada Cup Lindros this summer) And centering is generally susceptible to being early-90s atrocious.

01-05-2021, 10:31 AM	#1
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Upper Deck French Boxes... Remember these were huge in the 90s till the cronies at Upper Deck printed more and flooded the market. Eventually they had the same value as the English version. Looking at PSA pop reports there's a huge disparity in population for the french 90-92 ud rookies. Also there's barely any French wax boxes for sale. Did it all dry up? Was the reprint not as huge as initially thought? Are people not listing them thinking they are still $10 a box? The Jagr looks like it has 5% of the population of OPC premier.. Thoughts..

01-05-2021, 11:27 AM	#2
glen87 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: VERMONT Posts: 74,421 glen87 glen87	do people today even know their is a difference in those? i found a couple instances on ebay where french boxes are available or have been sold without noting they are the french version. __________________ collecting James Madison University players of all sports JMU cards: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmucards/ other cards: https://www.flickr.com/photos/glen87/albums

01-05-2021, 11:59 AM	#6
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 22,051	There were numerous cases available for $420 plus shipping last summer. If you didnt get in then, looks elsewhere. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

01-05-2021, 09:55 PM	#15
davis20009 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 133 David20009	Check the Upper Deck PSA cards from 1990 and 1991 and make sure that they are actually the English versions or if PSA screwed up and but a French card in. Over the years I have bought 2 different Upper Deck RCs thinking I was buying the English version in PSA 10 only to find when the card arrived that while the PSA 10 label was stating it was the regular Upper Deck card it unfortunately had the French version of the card encapsulated. Here is a John LeClair RC I have with this problem. (Occasionally PSA puts Topps cards in 1968-1989 O-Pee-Chee hockey labels as well and vice versa) Here is a 1980 O-Pee-Chee card I have in a Topps labeled holder Last edited by davis20009; 01-05-2021 at 10:03 PM. Reason: adding photos

01-05-2021, 11:35 AM	#3
rohara99 Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Canada, eh! Posts: 989	I collect all the 90's things and I have zero desire to own the french versions. In fact when I starting adding to my graded 90's rc collection a couple months ago I avoided the french copies.

01-05-2021, 11:55 AM	#5
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	There's a box that sold for $200 cad recently. If 1989 UD baseball can sell high then..

01-05-2021, 12:55 PM	#7
Bigduga Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 177	Yup...i bought a small boatload of 90/91 and 91/92 UD French at like 25 dollars a box to pull rookies out of in like...July - they were everywhere. I would imagine there’s a ton of French jagrs and bures and haseks about to hit the grading queue...check the pops in about six months.

01-05-2021, 01:42 PM	#8
mcwildcats Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Big Blue Nation Posts: 5,255	I need to dig out how many of the French UD boxes I own. I bought a bunch years ago and still have them all sealed. Also have several OPC Premier boxes and factory sets along with a bunch of sealed Canadian Score (who doesn't have that?).

01-05-2021, 01:54 PM	#9
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	If all the cases/boxes get opened they'll just be less of them out there. Plus you might only get a few PSA 10s of jagr per case. So pop won't get that much bigger. The English one is way higher and Jagr is still setting new records.

01-05-2021, 01:56 PM	#10
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	I have some boxes. Wondering why so little left if they supposedly made a tons of it. Barely any here locally on marketplace.

01-08-2021, 09:49 PM	#17
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Picking up two more locally. Are these bricked when you open? Been a while since I cracked some.