Would Kobe Autos ever drop in price?

[Shan95]

Hi all,

So I own a few Kobe autos and I’ve also posted a lot on here about his autos in general.

With prices going off in the last few weeks or so, I understand some RC’s may drop in value and that’s understandable but would his Autos ever come down, given the situation we will never see any new Kobe autos (maybe cut autos in the near future).

The Panini autos seem pretty unattainable at the moment but before it really goes out of reach, I wanted to know - what do you reckon will haven with this autos? Continue riding or will it plateau off at some point?


Thanks again guys, you’re all legends!


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[shakobe]

There are three notable events yet to transpire that will still drive prices up: induction into HOF, statue unveiling at Staples and his documentary... add that to the fact that Kobe day is celebrated every August 24 and his death anniversary will be remembered every January 26, he will always be on everyone’s collective consciousness. MJ, Kobe and Lebron is about as blue chip and safe as you will come across in the hobby

[Shan95]

Originally Posted by shakobe

There are three notable events yet to transpire that will still drive prices up: induction into HOF, statue unveiling at Staples and his documentary... add that to the fact that Kobe day is celebrated every August 24 and his death anniversary will be remembered every January 26, he will always be on everyone’s collective consciousness. MJ, Kobe and Lebron is about as blue chip and safe as you will come across in the hobby

When you put it like that it’s definitely quite a convincing buy. It’s definitely a few times every year.

I’m still at a loss, can’t believe it’s been a year since he’s been gone. Was definitely one of the more influential figures in my life.

So you reckon it would be safe to buy Kobe Autos at the current prices $2000-$3000?


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[Totalpackage]

Originally Posted by Shan95

When you put it like that it’s definitely quite a convincing buy. It’s definitely a few times every year.

I’m still at a loss, can’t believe it’s been a year since he’s been gone. Was definitely one of the more influential figures in my life.

So you reckon it would be safe to buy Kobe Autos at the current prices $2000-$3000?


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Kobe had more NBA licensed autographs than Michael Jordan and LeBron James, so if you still want to buy an auto card for 3k, I would suggest buy a LeBron auto with Cavs uniform, but who knows what will happen in the future, if LeBron signs with Panini, his autos could drop a little like Kobe's before.

[sebreg]

Originally Posted by Totalpackage

Kobe had more NBA licensed autographs than Michael Jordan and LeBron James, so if you still want to buy an auto card for 3k, I would suggest buy a LeBron auto with Cavs uniform, but who knows what will happen in the future, if LeBron signs with Panini, his autos could drop a little like Kobe's before.

Out of curiosity, anyone have rough estimate on how many NBA licensed Kobe autos might be out there?

In terms of prices holding, hard to say. While blue-chip stuff with high demand is generally a safer bet with higher floors, if you look at pricing histories something as iconic as the Jordan Fleer RC had some big run ups and then big corrections as well. When I buy in this climate, I just remember I'm buying in at a current high, and while maybe this level is a new floor and maybe there is still steam to push prices further upwards, it's also VERY possible that correction recalibrates the floor downwards for quite some time. And if I'm ok with that risk on the buy in (and can afford a loss) then I go for it, especially if it's a card I really like and hard to find.

[shakobe]

Originally Posted by Shan95

When you put it like that it’s definitely quite a convincing buy. It’s definitely a few times every year.

I’m still at a loss, can’t believe it’s been a year since he’s been gone. Was definitely one of the more influential figures in my life.

So you reckon it would be safe to buy Kobe Autos at the current prices $2000-$3000?


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As long as it is on card and with bold auto 2-3k will be money well spent imo

[Primo24]

what about the unlicensed Kobe autos? Thoughts?

[Shan95]

Originally Posted by Primo24

what about the unlicensed Kobe autos? Thoughts?

Which ones mate? I can only think of SAGE and Press Pass. Where those the ones you’re referring to?


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[thenwhatjk]

I mean, there’s soooo many out there, dead or not

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by Totalpackage

Kobe had more NBA licensed autographs than Michael Jordan and LeBron James, so if you still want to buy an auto card for 3k, I would suggest buy a LeBron auto with Cavs uniform, but who knows what will happen in the future, if LeBron signs with Panini, his autos could drop a little like Kobe's before.

Not just MJ and Lebron, I think there are more Kobe autos out there than any other basketball players.

[Shan95]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

Not just MJ and Lebron, I think there are more Kobe autos out there than any other basketball players.

Do you think that’ll ever pull prices down in the future?


Feels like a lot of kobes may stay in peoples PC’s forever. Considering he’s signed so much there are not as many autos as expected on eBay.


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[aaronking23]

they will all go up over time

early ud/higher end panini (eminence/noir/contenders/flawless/immaculate/luxe) first then the trickle down

if the early ud/high end panini sees a hard dip then that means the entire card market is coming down

[jzx1103]

Originally Posted by Shan95

Do you think that’ll ever pull prices down in the future?


Feels like a lot of kobes may stay in peoples PC’s forever. Considering he’s signed so much there are not as many autos as expected on eBay.


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Bingo!!!

[hermanotarjeta]

At this rate, your average Kobe auto should be about $40,000-$50,000 apiece in the next five years. Sounds like a no brain investment to me. If no one sells and people just accumulate because he doesn’t sign anymore, it can only go up. People should consider taking low interest loans and buy up all you can find. Don’t be the sucker who missed out.

Anyone can buy and own a car, but not everyone can buy a Kobe auto. Besides, your college tuitions will be excused and you won’t owe any money soon. We are all going to be millionaires!

[k13]

Yes.
Plus there's another more of them in boxes still.

[dunkindutchmen]

Originally Posted by k13

Yes.
Plus there's another more of them in boxes still.

Wow, another more?! That's addition extra!

[Dame]

Don’t think every autograph will rise at this pace. His limited and more attractive issues will hold. His earlier UD signatures are a favorite, can’t say the same for all his Panini’s. Impeccable’s, Flawless, Eminence and his late Contenders Tributes are the ones I would personally hold.

[Shan95]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

At this rate, your average Kobe auto should be about $40,000-$50,000 apiece in the next five years. Sounds like a no brain investment to me. If no one sells and people just accumulate because he doesn’t sign anymore, it can only go up. People should consider taking low interest loans and buy up all you can find. Don’t be the sucker who missed out.

Anyone can buy and own a car, but not everyone can buy a Kobe auto. Besides, your college tuitions will be excused and you won’t owe any money soon. We are all going to be millionaires!

The sarcasm in this lol


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[jzx1103]

Originally Posted by Dame

Don’t think every autograph will rise at this pace. His limited and more attractive issues will hold. His earlier UD signatures are a favorite, can’t say the same for all his Panini’s. Impeccable’s, Flawless, Eminence and his late Contenders Tributes are the ones I would personally hold.

Oh no they will definitely not rise in this pace, heck I think we might be hitting the point soon where they'll start to flatten. I don't really see them come back down to earth either. Remember in September to November when all basketball cards tanked in value, Kobe autos was the one thing that continued to see small steady bumps, even his key RC dropped in value by 30% to 40% in the same time period. I think current prices might be the new base. Under $1k for high school uni (scoreboard, sage). $1k to $1.5k for low end panini (Especially sticker). 1.5k to $3k for mid level on card or sticker prizm, $2.5k to $4k for early non high end UD, $4k to infinite for everything else. Any on card post death redemptions will be $10k or more for being his last hard signed autos.

[Noles939913]

I remember around a month before he died there was a member on here trying to sell a 1998-99 Bowman’s Best auto in a PSA 8 slab for $180 in the B/S/T section. I thought long and hard about buying it but ultimately passed. I wonder what that thing is worth now?

[jzx1103]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

I remember around a month before he died there was a member on here trying to sell a 1998-99 Bowman’s Best auto in a PSA 8 slab for $180. I thought long and hard about buying it but ultimately passed. I wonder what that thing is worth now?

Last raw copy sold for $1800, which is probably equivalent to a PSA 8

[dunkindutchmen]

Originally Posted by jzx1103

Oh no they will definitely not rise in this pace, heck I think we might be hitting the point soon where they'll start to flatten. I don't really see them come back down to earth either. Remember in September to November when all basketball cards tanked in value, Kobe autos was the one thing that continued to see small steady bumps, even his key RC dropped in value by 30% to 40% in the same time period. I think current prices might be the new base. Under $1k for high school uni (scoreboard, sage). $1k to $1.5k for low end panini (Especially sticker). 1.5k to $3k for mid level on card or sticker prizm, $2.5k to $4k for early non high end UD, $4k to infinite for everything else. Any on card post death redemptions will be $10k or more for being his last hard signed autos.

What about 1998 Topps Certified Auto?

[jzx1103]

Originally Posted by dunkindutchmen

What about 1998 Topps Certified Auto?

I think those are cheaper unless its graded authentic auto by one of the grading companies. There's fake versions of those

[Blanketcards]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

At this rate, your average Kobe auto should be about $40,000-$50,000 apiece in the next five years. Sounds like a no brain investment to me. If no one sells and people just accumulate because he doesn’t sign anymore, it can only go up. People should consider taking low interest loans and buy up all you can find. Don’t be the sucker who missed out.

Anyone can buy and own a car, but not everyone can buy a Kobe auto. Besides, your college tuitions will be excused and you won’t owe any money soon. We are all going to be millionaires!

I just asked my kids last night if it was OK to use their college funds to buy cards since free college is coming to a country near all of us! My son says "sure dad as long as I get half of what you buy, and it better be some monster LBJ stuff"

[k13]

A few years after someone dies, autos start dipping.
People get bored, forget, cash out. Move on.

No one wanted his autos for $200 that's what you really thought of him.