Are prospects cards considered rookie cards to?

LilTrapStarrr · 02-04-2021, 02:05 AM

So I was wondering if prospects cards are considered rookie cards? because I pulled a few prospect cards. I just started collecting sports cards so I dont know much about them. Michael jordan is one of my favorite players who got me into the hobby of collecting so I need some help please, thank you so much!

jduds · 02-04-2021, 02:25 AM

Not really, but it is complicated. A lot of people go with the rule that modern rookies are labeled with the RC logo now. This didn't used to be the case, A lot of people market Bowman in particular as rookies, but really they are prospect cards (they can have more value than true rookies though). Older ones are considered true rookies to keep things complicated. Prospect cards can get issued in multiple years so it is possible to have prospect cards that are 3rd or 4th year prospect cards. The premium is on 1st prospect cards and they are labeled as such, but unfortunately not always, There is also a premium on licensed cards like Bowman over things like Prizm prospect sets. The best thing to do is check ebay and see how the market is treating individual cards.

LilTrapStarrr · 02-04-2021, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jduds

Not really, but it is complicated. A lot of people go with the rule that modern rookies are labeled with the RC logo now. This didn't used to be the case, A lot of people market Bowman in particular as rookies, but really they are prospect cards (they can have more value than true rookies though). Older ones are considered true rookies to keep things complicated. Prospect cards can get issued in multiple years so it is possible to have prospect cards that are 3rd or 4th year prospect cards. The premium is on 1st prospect cards and they are labeled as such, but unfortunately not always, There is also a premium on licensed cards like Bowman over things like Prizm prospect sets. The best thing to do is check ebay and see how the market is treating individual cards.

Oh ok so do you believe that the true rookie card is the card with there first uniform or the card with "RC" on it or bowman's first cards?

JWBlue · 02-04-2021, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LilTrapStarrr

So I was wondering if prospects cards are considered rookie cards? because I pulled a few prospect cards. I just started collecting sports cards so I dont know much about them. Michael jordan is one of my favorite players who got me into the hobby of collecting so I need some help please, thank you so much!

Nope.

Simply put they are two separate classifications of cards.

Prospect card is before the player before reaches MLB. Rookie card is of course first season.

The first year prospect card is always most valuable. Subsequent years are worth significantly less.

I like prospect cards since they are more of a gamble. When the card is released nobody knows how the player will do. There is more certainty with a RC. I like both though.

Archangel1775 · 02-04-2021, 03:26 AM

Prospect Cards are Prospect Cards
Rookie Cards are Rookie Cards
Look for the 'RC' logo

joe73 · 02-04-2021, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Prospect Cards are Prospect Cards
Rookie Cards are Rookie Cards
Look for the 'RC' logo

For 2006 to present. Before that, it's trickier.

rwperu34 · 02-04-2021, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LilTrapStarrr

Oh ok so do you believe that the true rookie card is the card with there first uniform or the card with "RC" on it or bowman's first cards?

True rookie cards would be the one with the RC logo, although the most valuable might be the one with Bowman 1st. The most valuable card of any particular player is almost always his 1st Bowman Chrome Auto.

LilTrapStarrr · 02-04-2021, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rwperu34

True rookie cards would be the one with the RC logo, although the most valuable might be the one with Bowman 1st. The most valuable card of any particular player is almost always his 1st Bowman Chrome Auto.

Ok thank you man

LilTrapStarrr · 02-04-2021, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBlue

Nope.

Simply put they are two separate classifications of cards.

Prospect card is before the player before reaches MLB. Rookie card is of course first season.

The first year prospect card is always most valuable. Subsequent years are worth significantly less.

I like prospect cards since they are more of a gamble. When the card is released nobody knows how the player will do. There is more certainty with a RC. I like both though.

Oh ok thank you I appreciate your response it really helped

cardsin47 · 02-04-2021, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LilTrapStarrr

So I was wondering if prospects cards are considered rookie cards?

No....

Chrisyork33 · 02-04-2021, 07:20 AM

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LilTrapStarrr · 02-04-2021, 07:55 AM

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I love your name

Thank you man lol

shayscards79 · 02-04-2021, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rwperu34

True rookie cards would be the one with the RC logo, although the most valuable might be the one with Bowman 1st. The most valuable card of any particular player is almost always his 1st Bowman Chrome Auto.

For non auto cards I agree... RC logo is the most coveted. 1st Bowman chrome autos have been most valuable for a long time and probably will stay that way.

MoreToppsPlease · 02-04-2021, 11:33 AM

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For non auto cards I agree... RC logo is the most coveted. 1st Bowman chrome autos have been most valuable for a long time and probably will stay that way.

They’re essentially two kinds of collectibles made for different audiences and cater to two different “purposes”.

griffan15 · 02-04-2021, 12:02 PM

People who label prospect cards as RCs and try to sell them that way should be banned. There are people on ebay (and these boards) that falsely advertise prospects as RCs and they are hoping to trick unsuspecting buyers.

They are not RCs, never will be.

rwperu34 · 02-05-2021, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by griffan15

People who label prospect cards as RCs and try to sell them that way should be banned. There are people on ebay (and these boards) that falsely advertise prospects as RCs and they are hoping to trick unsuspecting buyers.

They are not RCs, never will be.

I think it's not quite a black and white situation with 1st Bowman, but on the 55 other cards a prospect has before his RC I would agree.

smapdi · 02-05-2021, 10:31 AM

Depends who you ask. People who were collecting before 2006 when MLB tried to assert some sort of authority over a century-old, organically grown hobby by creating the RC logo with amorphous, unwritten rules about when it is applied, to whom, and when, tend to either ignore it or treat it as a bonus, like a second rookie card years after the original. People who started collecting afterwards see the logo as the law, despite all sorts of problems that cause more confusion than we had before.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 02-05-2021, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by smapdi

Depends who you ask. People who were collecting before 2006 when MLB tried to assert some sort of authority over a century-old, organically grown hobby by creating the RC logo with amorphous, unwritten rules about when it is applied, to whom, and when, tend to either ignore it or treat it as a bonus, like a second rookie card years after the original. People who started collecting afterwards see the logo as the law, despite all sorts of problems that cause more confusion than we had before.

Hmm... I think it’s a lot more clear cut than before, but I can see how there would be reasons to not like the current system.

BlowoutBuzz · 02-05-2021, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Prospect Cards are Prospect Cards
Rookie Cards are Rookie Cards
Look for the 'RC' logo

And an important nugget to add here ... insert cards are not Rookie Cards. Even if inserts have RC logos on them. A parallel of a Rookie Card is also not an RC ... but that's all the energy I have for all of this today.

Bowman releases since 2006 have, for the most part, been built with the prospect cards as inserts. That was the change that came in with the logo.

MoreToppsPlease · 02-05-2021, 11:09 AM

There’d be no confusion and this would not be a topic of discussion if Topps wasn’t allowed to place big league uniforms and logos on pre-rookies.

Rookiemonster · 02-06-2021, 12:13 AM

There are MLB rules that say you have to meet certain criteria’s to Qualify as a major leaguer . So if you make your major league debut and play in 3 games the following year you make still be a rookie.

Currently there is a big buzz over the 1993 Jeter SP . Derek Jeters true rookie is 1996. The topps Future star Derek jeter is is his true base rookie .

02-04-2021, 02:05 AM	#1
LilTrapStarrr Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 274	Are prospects cards considered rookie cards to? So I was wondering if prospects cards are considered rookie cards? because I pulled a few prospect cards. I just started collecting sports cards so I dont know much about them. Michael jordan is one of my favorite players who got me into the hobby of collecting so I need some help please, thank you so much!

02-04-2021, 03:26 AM	#5
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 22,030	Prospect Cards are Prospect Cards Rookie Cards are Rookie Cards Look for the 'RC' logo __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

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MoreToppsPlease Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 8,676	There’d be no confusion and this would not be a topic of discussion if Topps wasn’t allowed to place big league uniforms and logos on pre-rookies. __________________ IRS Tax Tip 2022-57 A hobby is any activity that a person pursues because they enjoy it and with no intention of making a profit. People operate a business with the intention of making a profit.

02-04-2021, 02:25 AM	#2
jduds Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 3,835 chilaw57	Not really, but it is complicated. A lot of people go with the rule that modern rookies are labeled with the RC logo now. This didn't used to be the case, A lot of people market Bowman in particular as rookies, but really they are prospect cards (they can have more value than true rookies though). Older ones are considered true rookies to keep things complicated. Prospect cards can get issued in multiple years so it is possible to have prospect cards that are 3rd or 4th year prospect cards. The premium is on 1st prospect cards and they are labeled as such, but unfortunately not always, There is also a premium on licensed cards like Bowman over things like Prizm prospect sets. The best thing to do is check ebay and see how the market is treating individual cards.

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Chrisyork33 Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 2,470 Chrius_kskvk42sh Chrisyork33	I love your name

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griffan15 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 7,539 griffan15	People who label prospect cards as RCs and try to sell them that way should be banned. There are people on ebay (and these boards) that falsely advertise prospects as RCs and they are hoping to trick unsuspecting buyers. They are not RCs, never will be.

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smapdi Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 1,768 piledriver1	Depends who you ask. People who were collecting before 2006 when MLB tried to assert some sort of authority over a century-old, organically grown hobby by creating the RC logo with amorphous, unwritten rules about when it is applied, to whom, and when, tend to either ignore it or treat it as a bonus, like a second rookie card years after the original. People who started collecting afterwards see the logo as the law, despite all sorts of problems that cause more confusion than we had before.

02-06-2021, 12:13 AM	#21
Rookiemonster Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 387	There are MLB rules that say you have to meet certain criteria’s to Qualify as a major leaguer . So if you make your major league debut and play in 3 games the following year you make still be a rookie. Currently there is a big buzz over the 1993 Jeter SP . Derek Jeters true rookie is 1996. The topps Future star Derek jeter is is his true base rookie .