Price of Prizm Hobby

[Saavant]

I cannot believe the cost of NBA product lately. $2600 for 1 hobby of Prizm? Good lord what the heck is going on this is not the 2019 draft class I’m sorry.

[k13]

Standard price from here out.

Draft class does not matter.

[Saavant]

Well I’m out.....that’s crazy. Draft and NBA hoops are literally only product left for the “little guys” if you want to call it that at $400 a box.

[spurs50fan]

Just think...prizm was hated when it first came out. Imagine if this was chrome lol. Somebody pushed the like button and now it’s the must have no matter how much they produce

[Saavant]

Value is in Draft now.

[Stackfan]

Can't see many people in at that price. Flippers and some collectors, just continue to wait at retail stores for hours to try and get retail. Hobby boxes will sit, and slowly decrease like every other 2021 product thus far. Breakers will buy some just to break something.

Eventually the people buying into breaks for hundreds of dollars realize they are loosing money more often then making money.

Don't believe me, look at the break section and see how many hobby boxes break.

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by Saavant

I cannot believe the cost of NBA product lately. $2600 for 1 hobby of Prizm? Good lord what the heck is going on this is not the 2019 draft class I’m sorry.

Nah, if you compare it to Donruss at $1k, $2.6k is practically a steal!!!!

[BackToWax]

The way Panini is handling distribution will eventually kill off most of the long-time collectors. Not going to happen for a few years. But flippers, distributors, and breakers have all the power now.

[The_Reverend]

So $200 per pack? Just plain crazy and greed!!!

[lietuvalabas]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

So $200 per pack? Just plain crazy and greed!!!

James, its only crazy if you pick the pack that DOESN'T contain a lamelo gold /10. just have to pick right..

[spurs50fan]

Anyone think the wait time and price of grading will clip the interest in Prizm? The 10 card lots that will emerge won’t be as desirable if mass grading declines

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by BackToWax

The way Panini is handling distribution will eventually kill off most of the long-time collectors. Not going to happen for a few years. But flippers, distributors, and breakers have all the power now.

This might be true, but we enable them by buying. If I don’t find retail on shelf I am no longer buying products and then if I do, why open?

[threepointplay]

I think a lot of us agree that the prices for new wax boxes have hit insane levels and for a good many of us outside of our budget. I for one have never been into joining group breaks, as for me half the fun is opening a hobby box yourself, rather than watching someone else do it for me. Consequently, I have resigned myself to just buying singles.

But it has got me to thinking, as to what if anything can Panini do about it and if the current situation is left unchecked is it going to kill off local card shops in the USA?

I own and run an independent record shop in the United Kingdom, that sells a mixture of new and second hand music on vinyl. If I saw the distributer prices for new music releases spike in the way sports card market has in the last 12 months, I doubt I would be able to keep the shop open for long. Initially the cashflow problems it would be present me would scare the life out of me and then I would find that the the vast majority of my local customers will have been priced out of new releases.

So I would be left with selling new releases on-line; at which point you either swing over to the secondary market product &/or shut your shop. There is little point in having a bricks and mortar expense if your customers are all on-line.

How are local card shops in the USA coping with things, or are they quickly falling by the wayside?

Has any discussion been had to dealing with things in the short-term? If Panini crank up production on new releases to meet demand, do we quickly see a repeat of the era of over-priced and over-produced product?

[DajuanWagner]

Originally Posted by k13

Standard price from here out.

Draft class does not matter.

For once we agree on something. Probably be the last time we agree on something, but, at least, on this day, we agree on something......

Draft class has absolutely nothing to do with draft class. It's a cash grab. PSA, well, it's a cash grab. Once the bubble pops, which may never happen, then things will go back to normal, but, for now, stupid pricing is the new normal.....

[Ross]

Singles is only way.


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[JohnnyHatesJazz]

In 5 years we'll be talking about how cheap 2600 bucks a box was.

these days will be the good ole days!!!

[Spacemanspif]

It’s fine. I bought 3 boxes of hobby last year at the “inflated” price of $400 lol and had way more fun ripping retail. I don’t care about any of the rookies this year so will just be buying singles and saving money for other things

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

In 5 years we'll be talking about how cheap 2600 bucks a box was.

these days will be the good ole days!!!

If that's true I imagine not nearly as many people will be talking about the price of wax at all. Just like 99% of people don't talk about flying in a G5.

[RogerGodahell]

I noticed there's a few boxes of 2015-16 Prizm on eBay for roughly the same price. Jokic, Booker, Kat and Porzingis. Joker is probably going to win MVP this year.

[patchgenie]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

It’s fine. I bought 3 boxes of hobby last year at the “inflated” price of $400 lol and had way more fun ripping retail. I don’t care about any of the rookies this year so will just be buying singles and saving money for other things

true, probably spent 5 bucks on prizm draft singles and got all the main guys rc's besides lamelo.

funny seeing beer league soccer at 30k a case.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

I noticed there's a few boxes of 2015-16 Prizm on eBay for roughly the same price. Jokic, Booker, Kat and Porzingis. Joker is probably going to win MVP this year.

Pass.

144 vs 80 cards

[NoleinJax]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

I noticed there's a few boxes of 2015-16 Prizm on eBay for roughly the same price. Jokic, Booker, Kat and Porzingis. Joker is probably going to win MVP this year.

I'm sure the supply of 15-16 was a much less than this year's as well as there was no fastbreak, choice, tmall, fanatics, etc. Good luck to anyone busting boxes at this price. May your gamble pay off handsomely.

[Giancarlo27]

It's sad. Maybe one to two people post a box break per day on the basketball page nowadays. It's painfully obvious that the breakers are 95% of the consumers of wax and its destroyed the wax breaking aspect of the hobby. Degenerate gambling wins again

[solt0131]

Originally Posted by Giancarlo27

It's sad. Maybe one to two people post a box break per day on the basketball page nowadays. It's painfully obvious that the breakers are 95% of the consumers of wax and its destroyed the wax breaking aspect of the hobby. Degenerate gambling wins again

Do you think this will eventually lead to the downfall of the card industry in a few years?

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by threepointplay

I think a lot of us agree that the prices for new wax boxes have hit insane levels and for a good many of us outside of our budget. I for one have never been into joining group breaks, as for me half the fun is opening a hobby box yourself, rather than watching someone else do it for me. Consequently, I have resigned myself to just buying singles.

But it has got me to thinking, as to what if anything can Panini do about it and if the current situation is left unchecked is it going to kill off local card shops in the USA?

I own and run an independent record shop in the United Kingdom, that sells a mixture of new and second hand music on vinyl. If I saw the distributer prices for new music releases spike in the way sports card market has in the last 12 months, I doubt I would be able to keep the shop open for long. Initially the cashflow problems it would be present me would scare the life out of me and then I would find that the the vast majority of my local customers will have been priced out of new releases.

So I would be left with selling new releases on-line; at which point you either swing over to the secondary market product &/or shut your shop. There is little point in having a bricks and mortar expense if your customers are all on-line.

How are local card shops in the USA coping with things, or are they quickly falling by the wayside?

Has any discussion been had to dealing with things in the short-term? If Panini crank up production on new releases to meet demand, do we quickly see a repeat of the era of over-priced and over-produced product?

My LCS has been doing well. He sells out of most stuff immediately. But I don’t know how it compares to when things were normal.