Ouch, PSA 6 for a Pack Fresh Montana RC

jmeryllman · 04-05-2021, 04:24 PM

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Siberian13 · 04-05-2021, 04:30 PM

Centering looks like a 10 per PSA standards. Shocked

JWBlue · 04-05-2021, 04:42 PM

Can't imagine less than an 8. Wow.

asujbl · 04-05-2021, 04:43 PM

Scan it with a darker background.

Gigantor · 04-05-2021, 04:51 PM

Being the top card of a cello, a couple thoughts:

- Maybe a surface dent or two due to it being on the top of the pack?
- Maybe the corners are curved back a bit if it was tightly packed? Or pushed in?

Is that white snowing to the left of Montana on the slab? It's not part of the image, so could be surface damage?

jmeryllman · 04-05-2021, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gigantor

Being the top card of a cello, a couple thoughts:

- Maybe a surface dent or two due to it being on the top of the pack?
- Maybe the corners are curved back a bit if it was tightly packed? Or pushed in?

Is that white snowing to the left of Montana on the slab? It's not part of the image, so could be surface damage?

I really thought the surface was good. The back was the one exposed. Not sure about the curved corner. I didn't notice because it went straight to card saver. The white on the left is reflection of my phone.

jmeryllman · 04-05-2021, 05:02 PM

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SupermanBrandon · 04-05-2021, 05:02 PM

Ever heard anyone say..."Damn, PSA really over graded my cards. Ugh!" We all think OUR cards should've received better grades.

jmeryllman · 04-05-2021, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Ever heard anyone say..."Damn, PSA really over graded my cards. Ugh!" We all think OUR cards should've received better grades.

I agree! Lesson learned.

rroboo · 04-05-2021, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Ever heard anyone say..."Damn, PSA really over graded my cards. Ugh!" We all think OUR cards should've received better grades.

I actually have had this issue. I used to overanalyze too much and sent in a small % of what I could have. The only way I figured this out was by making notes of each card and my expected grade compared to the actual grade.

packfan15412 · 04-05-2021, 05:08 PM

Funny story... one time I got a psa 6 on a nice card, was pissed resent it back in & came back a psa 9 haha! Another time I sent in a Kyler Silver to BGS... it came back a 8.5 and I had no idea why... I sent it to PSA and it came back a 10... im fully convinced at this point graders dont even know how to grade lol theyre just trying to fill orders haha

jmeryllman · 04-05-2021, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by packfan15412

Funny story... one time I got a psa 6 on a nice card, was pissed resent it back in & came back a psa 9 haha! Another time I sent in a Kyler Silver to BGS... it came back a 8.5 and I had no idea why... I sent it to PSA and it came back a 10... im fully convinced at this point graders dont even know how to grade lol theyre just trying to fill orders haha

I would do the resending too, but at this point I am not going to spend on a super Express. Maybe I'll use this card to sent to another company and compare grading standards.

altaeria · 04-05-2021, 05:46 PM

Send it to that trendy company that uses gaudy colorful labels. I'd be curious to see how they complement a subtle vintage design like this. You've got nothing to lose at this point.

cking · 04-05-2021, 05:53 PM

Resubmit. It will get a 9 next time.

Siberian13 · 04-05-2021, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by altaeria

Send it to that trendy company that uses gaudy colorful labels. I'd be curious to see how they complement a subtle vintage design like this. You've got nothing to lose at this point.

BGS?

Fratboy · 04-05-2021, 06:20 PM

is there a stain on the back of the card?

something going on at "completed 269 passes"

nice card though

jasonm2121 · 04-05-2021, 06:29 PM

Looks better than some tens posted before

aggie4ever · 04-05-2021, 06:56 PM

A 6 usually means PSA saw a small surface wrinkle if the card otherwise looks like a 9. Check both sides carefully under a bright light.

vincecarder · 04-05-2021, 06:58 PM

Please Submit Again....

JWBlue · 04-05-2021, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fratboy

is there a stain on the back of the card?

something going on at "completed 269 passes"

nice card though

Probably. It sucks that the difficult things like centering and corners look like a 10.

rman112 · 04-05-2021, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fratboy

is there a stain on the back of the card?

something going on at "completed 269 passes"

nice card though

Just looks like glare. It's in the same spot on the front side pic.

Siberian13 · 04-05-2021, 07:06 PM

Until OP can provide better photos, no one can help

jmeryllman · 04-05-2021, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fratboy

is there a stain on the back of the card?

something going on at "completed 269 passes"

nice card though

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jmeryllman · 04-05-2021, 07:11 PM

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Until OP can provide better photos, no one can help

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chasacar86 · 04-05-2021, 07:14 PM

Can you show the front top left corner at a better angle?

04-05-2021, 04:24 PM	#1
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Gigantor Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 3,423 Gigantor	Being the top card of a cello, a couple thoughts: - Maybe a surface dent or two due to it being on the top of the pack? - Maybe the corners are curved back a bit if it was tightly packed? Or pushed in? Is that white snowing to the left of Montana on the slab? It's not part of the image, so could be surface damage? __________________ PC - Jake Long - Blue Detroit Lions - Santa Claus Cards

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04-05-2021, 05:08 PM	#11
packfan15412 Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 2,101	Funny story... one time I got a psa 6 on a nice card, was pissed resent it back in & came back a psa 9 haha! Another time I sent in a Kyler Silver to BGS... it came back a 8.5 and I had no idea why... I sent it to PSA and it came back a 10... im fully convinced at this point graders dont even know how to grade lol theyre just trying to fill orders haha __________________ Go Pack Go

04-05-2021, 04:30 PM	#2
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 78,482 shiller13	Centering looks like a 10 per PSA standards. Shocked

04-05-2021, 04:42 PM	#3
JWBlue Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,747	Can't imagine less than an 8. Wow.

04-05-2021, 05:02 PM	#8
SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	Ever heard anyone say..."Damn, PSA really over graded my cards. Ugh!" We all think OUR cards should've received better grades.

04-05-2021, 05:46 PM	#13
altaeria Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: CenterCityPhiladelphia Posts: 1,934 altaeria altaeria	Send it to that trendy company that uses gaudy colorful labels. I'd be curious to see how they complement a subtle vintage design like this. You've got nothing to lose at this point.

04-05-2021, 05:53 PM	#14
cking Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 16,263	Resubmit. It will get a 9 next time.

04-05-2021, 06:20 PM	#16
Fratboy Banned Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 2,536	is there a stain on the back of the card? something going on at "completed 269 passes" nice card though

04-05-2021, 06:29 PM	#17
jasonm2121 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: GOAT City Posts: 12,007	Looks better than some tens posted before

04-05-2021, 06:56 PM	#18
aggie4ever Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 6,805 aggie4ever	A 6 usually means PSA saw a small surface wrinkle if the card otherwise looks like a 9. Check both sides carefully under a bright light.

04-05-2021, 06:58 PM	#19
vincecarder Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Toronto Posts: 400 evalueway	Please Submit Again.... __________________ IG: eValueWay PC: Kevin Huerter, Vince Carter, Patrick Roy

04-05-2021, 07:06 PM	#22
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 78,482 shiller13	Until OP can provide better photos, no one can help

04-05-2021, 07:14 PM	#25
chasacar86 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 9,159	Can you show the front top left corner at a better angle?