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Old 04-14-2021, 12:07 PM   #1
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Exclamation Heritage Auctions Selling Many Trimmed & Recolored High-Grade SGC 1915 Cracker Jacks

Heritage has numerous trimmed and recolored high-grade 1915 Cracker Jacks that have been graded by SGC in their current auction. I have found the "before" photos for two cards in their auction that have been trimmed and two more that have been trimmed and recolored. So far, these cards originate from five SGC submissions in the 2009-2010 time frame: submission 1255847-XXX, 1259605-XXX 1264636-XXX, 1276211-XXX, and 1276213-XXX. There are several other cards in Heritage's auction from these SGC submissions for which I could not locate prior photos. Moreover, some have been re-cased to have their original certification number obfuscated. The second post in this thread will detail those; some are clearly trimmed and I suspect others have been altered in other ways (e.g. recoloring). I also identified a trimmed card from one of these submissions that was removed from this month's PWCC auction. It has been crossed into a PSA slab; I will include it in a subsequent post. In addition, I have identified additional trimmed cards from these subs that are not on the market. These will be posted over the next few days.

Heritage also has a trimmed Gary Moser PSA 8.5 1948 Leaf Warren Spahn rookie in their auction that I have identified below. Finally, on the modern basketball side of their auction, Heritage continues to accept consignments from Kevin Burge and company (presumably under an alias). They have not removed any of these trimmed cards from their prior auctions. I have included examples of these trimmed cards in their current auction below as well.

Heritage has failed time and time again to remove trimmed cards from their auction and stop accepting consignments from trimmers, especially on the modern side. They are undoubtedly a worse outlet to purchase cards from than PWCC at this point in time.



1. Trimmed and Recolored SGC 9 1915 Cracker Jack Walter Johnson #57

Card has been trimmed on all edges and recolored/erased on the noted area to remove printing from the card border resulting from a minor registration issue.

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...umbnail-071515
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515
http://jun08.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...?itemid=101080









2. Trimmed SGC 8.5 1915 Cracker Jack Honus Wagner #68

Card has been trimmed on the top and bottom edges.

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...umbnail-071515
https://catalog.scpauctions.com/1915...-LOT14160.aspx
http://jun08.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...?itemid=101078





3. Trimmed SGC 9 1915 Cracker Jack Christy Mathewson #88

Card has been trimmed on the left and bottom edges.

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515







4. Trimmed and Recolored SGC 9 1915 Cracker Jack William (Bill) James #153

Card has been recolored on the noted area. It appears to also have color added in other spots, but the one that's noted is obvious. The top edge is also trimmed with minimal stock removal.

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515





5. Trimmed PSA 8.5 1948 Leaf Warren Spahn RC #32

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=7228



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This card was purchased by Gary Moser, altered, and then consigned to and sold by Goodwin & Co.

PSA Cert #15381260

1948 Leaf Warren Spahn #32

Value gain of $3,171.25

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from Ebay seller sandlotheros as a SGC 7 on May 20, 2008 for $765.00.

Same card was sold by Goodwin & Co. as a PSA 8.5 for $3,936.25 on July 17, 2009.

Yellow circles are print, stain or fiber identifiers.
Red squares identify trimmed left and right edges.
No back image provided.




Here's some of the trimmed modern basketball cards up for sale: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1460064



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Heritage Auctions AKA "The New PWCC" continues to accept consignments from card trimmers. The PSA 10 Luka Next Day was consigned to them by Kevin Burge (the raw, untrimmed card was purchased by his cardcontractor eBay account from eBay user anthonyh6009 on 1/6/19 for $1,325) and I suspect that the Lebron Finite was as well. Buyer beware when bidding on auctions from Heritage.

Also for sale in this auction is one of the trimmed Giannis BGS 10 Black Label Next Day autos, so heads up on that one as well (Thread: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1360133, Auction link: https://sports.ha.com/itm/basketball...ription-071515).

Finally, buyer beware of the trimmed Giannis PSA 10 Immaculate RPA that is in their auction that closes this week (Thread: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1367275, Auction link: https://sports.ha.com/itm/basketball...umbnail-071515).



Trimmed: LeBron James 2003-04 UD Finite Signatures PSA 10 AUTO 10
PSA cert #: 41749726

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...69872379149047
https://sports.ha.com/itm/basketball...umbnail-071515







Trimmed: Luka Doncic 2018-19 Panini Donruss Next Day Autographs PSA 10
PSA cert #: 42558450

Minimally the left and bottom edges have been trimmed; I can't tell on the others, however the card is massively undersized.

https://sports.ha.com/itm/basketball...ription-071515

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Here's the cards currently up for sale with Heritage that are from the subs noted in the OP, but for which photos of the card prior to SGC grading could not be located:

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

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Here's the card that was taken down from the current PWCC auction:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=7476

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Buyer beware of trimmed PSA 8 1915 Cracker Jack Bob Groom up for sale with PWCC. Card was originally a PSA 8 before being trimmed and getting an SGC 92 (8.5) grade. Card was then later resubmitted to PSA again to get back into an 8 slab. Last sold untrimmed on 5/8/09 for $1,606.22 at Goodwin and first sold trimmed (SGC 92) by SCP on 2/29/12 for $686.40. This is part of a massive run of high-grade trimmed and recolored SGC graded 1915 Cracker Jack cards graded in the 2009-2010 time frame. More to come on that.

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Old 04-14-2021, 12:11 PM   #4
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Old 04-14-2021, 12:13 PM   #5
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JFC is every single vintage card from every single graded company trimmed? I'm so tired of this.

3124508 is doing gods work for this hobby. We should all be very grateful.
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There is no end to this, holy hell.
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Old 04-14-2021, 12:34 PM   #7
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Here's an example of a trimmed card not on the market.

SGC 84 1915 Cracker Jack Walter Johnson #57 Cert #: 1289262-007

https://catalog.scpauctions.com/1915...-LOT18634.aspx

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JFC is every single vintage card from every single graded company trimmed? I'm so tired of this.

3124508 is doing gods work for this hobby. We should all be very grateful.
Why would anyone think modern cards aren’t regularly altered?

The best question: why pay extra for a slabbed altered card over a raw one?
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Im just buying PSA altered pre-war now. Takes the guess work out of it for much cheaper. lol
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Old 04-14-2021, 01:42 PM   #10
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These trim jobs are so damned obvious! No legitimate Cracker Jacks look like that. It has to be a payoff of some kind, and can't possibly just be due to incompetence.

There is such unbridled corruption in the Card Doctor - TPG - Seller ring.... it's a symbiotic criminal triangle. Isn't it way past the time for the FBI to step in and put a stop to these people?

God, I am tired of seeing these threads over and over again. This is no different than stealing money from a bank or snatching an old lady's purse.
Come on FBI... the time is now!
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These trim jobs are so damned obvious! No legitimate Cracker Jacks look like that. It has to be a payoff of some kind, and can't possibly just be due to incompetence.

There is such unbridled corruption in the Card Doctor - TPG - Seller ring.... it's a symbiotic criminal triangle. Isn't it way past the time for the FBI to step in and put a stop to these people?

God, I am tired of seeing these threads over and over again. This is no different than stealing money from a bank or snatching an old lady's purse.
Come on FBI... the time is now!
The "deadly sharp" corners on any vintage card should be a red flag to a grader every time.
As you and others have stated, graders are not that bad at their jobs.
These cards are not simply slipping by unnoticed.

That's the elephant in the room.
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Nice $100,000 trimmed card here. Good job SGC! Trimmer "only" profited $26,542.60 though. Who is cracking out a $42,000 PSA 8 Joe Jackson CJ to trim....hmmmm.

Left edge is not trimmed. Overlay is just not 100% straight.

SGC 96 1915 Cracker Jack Joe Jackson #103 Cert #: 1278003-012

https://goldinauctions.com/LotDetail...entoryid=23501
https://catalog.scpauctions.com/1915...-LOT15227.aspx
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...umbnail-071515

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Here's another trimmed Joe Jackson that went from a 4 to a 7. All edges trimmed.

SGC 96 1915 Cracker Jack Joe Jackson #103 Cert #: 1255843-021

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515
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As usual, great work tracking these down.
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Rounded corners to perfectly sharp ones. That didn't raise the red flags??
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Is it illegal to trim or touch up your cards and have them graded by a third party?
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Is it illegal to trim or touch up your cards and have them graded by a third party?
Oh boy.....
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So what seller got word that every single card had issues and decided to do a full dump of them all at once?
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Is it illegal to trim or touch up your cards and have them graded by a third party?
Don’t think your question is applicable here, but the answer is no.
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So what seller got word that every single card had issues and decided to do a full dump of them all at once?
Or someone collected high-grade SGC 1915 Cracker Jacks and is selling their collection. Not seeing many of these from SGC in this grade range that aren’t trimmed, so there’s that.
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I would never buy a CJ with sharp corners without the 100% assumption that they are trimmed. It’s so unlikely, and so unnatural. Alarm bells every time.

Give me nice soft ‘3’ corners all day.
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Is it illegal to trim or touch up your cards and have them graded by a third party?
Nope. But once you sell that card without disclosing you have potentially committed fraud.
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Just incredible detective work, 312. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into this. You very likely have saved someone tens of thousands of dollars.

I cannot believe someone would have the stones to alter a PSA 8 CJ Joe Jax. But actually it's pretty fitting, as they knew "the fix was in" or they never would have attempted it.

I just hope enough people see this thread, in order to make a difference.
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I'd like to hear a statement from S_C on who is submitting these cards, or better yet I hope the FBI subpoenas the records You have to wonder if it's the owner/employees at this point
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