Non-RC cards that are more iconic/expensive than rookie card

spiro123 · 05-31-2021, 10:32 AM

Are there non-rookie cards of a player that are considered more "iconic" than their rookie card? I imagine that this is quite subjective but I am very curious if there are examples.

On a more objective note, are there non-rookie cards of a player that are actually more expensive than their rookie card?

Thank you!

LVDan · 05-31-2021, 10:33 AM

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MiamiMarlinsFan · 05-31-2021, 10:37 AM

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Never liked their music much, but “Don’t stay home” is pretty good.

EldoEsq · 05-31-2021, 10:37 AM

1971 Thurman Munson

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pewe · 05-31-2021, 10:39 AM

Bowman 1st auto of many/most/all contemporary players???

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Frankish · 05-31-2021, 10:44 AM

52T Mantle is the classic example.

jduds · 05-31-2021, 10:51 AM

The ones that popped immediately to mind are close to rookie prices, but normally just a tad lower depending on day and grade.
Bo Jackson 1990 Score
Dale Murphy Reverse Negative
I'd also bet a few 1993 Finest players have that card valued higher than their rc.

mfw13 · 05-31-2021, 10:53 AM

It depends....are you only talking about regular issue cards?

I'd note that the 1968 Clemente 3D is considered a highly desirable and valuable card, but it's a test issue.

stevebay · 05-31-2021, 10:55 AM

Does 1982 Ripken traded count?

Chris P · 05-31-2021, 10:58 AM

Isn't the 92 Bowman Chipper and even 93 SP Chipper typically worth more than Chipper's 91 Base RC's?

ryknow216 · 05-31-2021, 10:58 AM

52 Mantle

stevebay · 05-31-2021, 10:59 AM

1992 Bowman Pedro Martinez, since his 1991 Upper Deck Final Edition was printed to the masses.

stevebay · 05-31-2021, 11:00 AM

1989 Fleer FF

eye4talent · 05-31-2021, 11:11 AM

That gets impossible to discern in the modern era, with parallels and autographs and SP variations complicating the picture.

For instance, Juan Soto’s 2019 Topps Chrome Sapphire sells for more than his 2018 Topps Chrome Update. But the 2018 TCU refractor (and other, more rare parallels) is worth more than the Sapphire.

But purely in terms of base cards, the ‘19 Sapphire is a stronger card than the ‘18 TCU.

There aren’t a whole lot of clear-cut examples in the modern era, though, that would be akin to the Mantle ‘52 Topps.

There are some ‘92 Bowman cards that I’d rather have than a cheap ‘91 base card. Pedro Martinez, Chipper Jones and Jim Thome come to mind.

While I don’t collect football anymore, the Brett Favre ‘92 Stadium Club was a bigger deal than the ‘91 Stadium Club (but I don’t know if it still is).

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eye4talent · 05-31-2021, 11:11 AM

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Does 1982 Ripken traded count?

Kinda. It give credit for that.

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pspa123 · 05-31-2021, 11:13 AM

Bowman Color or 52T Reese?

71 Blue and Buckner, maybe

52T Campanella

hatchd · 05-31-2021, 11:34 AM

Basically every player that had a RC in the 90s. Mirror Golds, Red Crusades, PMGs, 24kt's, etc are almost all more iconic and expensive than RCs of those same players.

mjohnatgt · 05-31-2021, 11:43 AM

Pretty sure the question can be limited to base cards, not errors/variations/parallels.

actionbryan · 05-31-2021, 02:04 PM

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1992 Bowman Pedro Martinez, since his 1991 Upper Deck Final Edition was printed to the masses.

I do like though that 91 UD is like his ONLY mainstream rookie card. That’s a unique scenario since forever

Robles Fan · 05-31-2021, 02:37 PM

Honus Wagner's iconic T206 card is not his actual "RC." As far as I know there is at least one other card of him (I'm thinking the 1902-11 W600 Sporting Life) which precedes that one.

justwar · 05-31-2021, 02:42 PM

52 Mantle has been mentioned, but dare I say also 52 Mays is more iconic, or comparably iconic, to the 51 Bowman. Damn, horizontals.

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base set · 05-31-2021, 03:20 PM

McGwire’s Team USA card? Dunno how those shook out over time or what people consider the ever slippery “true rookie card.” But any time someone wants to show their precious junk wax collection, that’s the first card pulled out.

dashcol · 05-31-2021, 03:45 PM

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1971 Thurman Munson

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52T Mantle is the classic example.

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1989 Fleer FF

I came here to say these three specifically. Obviously others think the same!

I think the ‘52 Topps Mays also might be higher than the ‘51 Bowman, but that one is a lot closer than the Mantle.

Hallco · 05-31-2021, 05:53 PM

90 Leaf 2nd year cards of certain 89 rookies were more expensive back then. Not sure that is the case anymore.

fabiani12333 · 05-31-2021, 07:00 PM

I think Reggie Jackson's 1990 UD auto card is more iconic than his rookie.

05-31-2021, 10:32 AM	#1
spiro123 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 21	Non-RC cards that are more iconic/expensive than rookie card Are there non-rookie cards of a player that are considered more "iconic" than their rookie card? I imagine that this is quite subjective but I am very curious if there are examples. On a more objective note, are there non-rookie cards of a player that are actually more expensive than their rookie card? Thank you!

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pspa123 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 3,725	Bowman Color or 52T Reese? 71 Blue and Buckner, maybe 52T Campanella __________________ "We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity." Opening narration, The Outer Limits. Last edited by pspa123; 05-31-2021 at 11:19 AM.

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Robles Fan Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Northern VA Posts: 724	Honus Wagner's iconic T206 card is not his actual "RC." As far as I know there is at least one other card of him (I'm thinking the 1902-11 W600 Sporting Life) which precedes that one. Last edited by Robles Fan; 05-31-2021 at 02:46 PM.

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EldoEsq Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: UP Upstate NY now! Posts: 1,466 roryladd Eldoesq	1971 Thurman Munson Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

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pewe Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 26,641	Bowman 1st auto of many/most/all contemporary players??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Frankish Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 171 gardenish FrankPT	52T Mantle is the classic example.

05-31-2021, 10:51 AM	#7
jduds Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 3,793 chilaw57	The ones that popped immediately to mind are close to rookie prices, but normally just a tad lower depending on day and grade. Bo Jackson 1990 Score Dale Murphy Reverse Negative I'd also bet a few 1993 Finest players have that card valued higher than their rc.

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mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,330	It depends....are you only talking about regular issue cards? I'd note that the 1968 Clemente 3D is considered a highly desirable and valuable card, but it's a test issue.

05-31-2021, 10:55 AM	#9
stevebay Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 199	Does 1982 Ripken traded count?

05-31-2021, 10:58 AM	#10
Chris P Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 14,685	Isn't the 92 Bowman Chipper and even 93 SP Chipper typically worth more than Chipper's 91 Base RC's?

05-31-2021, 10:58 AM	#11
ryknow216 Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Californee way Posts: 1,874	52 Mantle

05-31-2021, 10:59 AM	#12
stevebay Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 199	1992 Bowman Pedro Martinez, since his 1991 Upper Deck Final Edition was printed to the masses.

05-31-2021, 11:00 AM	#13
stevebay Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 199	1989 Fleer FF

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eye4talent Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 7,919 eye4talent eye4talent	That gets impossible to discern in the modern era, with parallels and autographs and SP variations complicating the picture. For instance, Juan Soto’s 2019 Topps Chrome Sapphire sells for more than his 2018 Topps Chrome Update. But the 2018 TCU refractor (and other, more rare parallels) is worth more than the Sapphire. But purely in terms of base cards, the ‘19 Sapphire is a stronger card than the ‘18 TCU. There aren’t a whole lot of clear-cut examples in the modern era, though, that would be akin to the Mantle ‘52 Topps. There are some ‘92 Bowman cards that I’d rather have than a cheap ‘91 base card. Pedro Martinez, Chipper Jones and Jim Thome come to mind. While I don’t collect football anymore, the Brett Favre ‘92 Stadium Club was a bigger deal than the ‘91 Stadium Club (but I don’t know if it still is). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

05-31-2021, 11:34 AM	#17
hatchd Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,693	Basically every player that had a RC in the 90s. Mirror Golds, Red Crusades, PMGs, 24kt's, etc are almost all more iconic and expensive than RCs of those same players.

05-31-2021, 11:43 AM	#18
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,611 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	Pretty sure the question can be limited to base cards, not errors/variations/parallels.

05-31-2021, 02:42 PM	#21
justwar Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Detroit Posts: 62 justwar0	52 Mantle has been mentioned, but dare I say also 52 Mays is more iconic, or comparably iconic, to the 51 Bowman. Damn, horizontals. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-31-2021, 03:20 PM	#22
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,434	McGwire’s Team USA card? Dunno how those shook out over time or what people consider the ever slippery “true rookie card.” But any time someone wants to show their precious junk wax collection, that’s the first card pulled out.

05-31-2021, 05:53 PM	#24
Hallco Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 7,777 hallco	90 Leaf 2nd year cards of certain 89 rookies were more expensive back then. Not sure that is the case anymore.

05-31-2021, 07:00 PM	#25
fabiani12333 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 11,622	I think Reggie Jackson's 1990 UD auto card is more iconic than his rookie.