ALERT: PWCC Selling Counterfeit PSA 5 2009 Upper Deck USA Bryce Harper Autograph

3124508 on COMC · 06-08-2021, 08:45 PM

Buyer beware of this counterfeit card graded by PSA that will be for sale on eBay in less than an hour. PWCC is also selling a counterfeit 2001 UD Legends Bart Starr auto that has been authenticated by PSA. Both cards were submitted in the same PSA submission.

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/vaul...etplace/138185
https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/vaul...etplace/138208

Rooftop · 06-08-2021, 08:49 PM

Biohazarddfl · 06-08-2021, 08:50 PM

Bravo. How the heck did you know these were counterfeit?

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HOFAutoRookies · 06-08-2021, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

Bravo. How the heck did you know these were counterfeit?

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The auto isn't authentic

Biohazarddfl · 06-08-2021, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HOFAutoRookies

The auto isn't authentic

So the entire card was faked? Not doubting you, just trying to understand.

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3124508 on COMC · 06-08-2021, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

Bravo. How the heck did you know these were counterfeit?

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They’re both cards on the list of heavily counterfeited cards originating from sellers in the New Jersey area. Then, just a quick look at the autographs, print quality, and the foil elements confirms these are not the real deal.

Biohazarddfl · 06-08-2021, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

They’re both cards on the list of heavily counterfeited cards originating from sellers in the New Jersey area. Then, just a quick look at the autographs, print quality, and the foil elements confirms these are not the real deal.

Yikes! Thank you

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BeanCollects · 06-08-2021, 09:25 PM

You’re doing gods work

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BBases31 · 06-08-2021, 09:34 PM

Great work as always

BeanCollects · 06-08-2021, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

They’re both cards on the list of heavily counterfeited cards originating from sellers in the New Jersey area. Then, just a quick look at the autographs, print quality, and the foil elements confirms these are not the real deal.

Where can I view the list of heavily counterfeited cards?

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3124508 on COMC · 06-08-2021, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BeanCollects

Where can I view the list of heavily counterfeited cards?

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Here’s some: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1290903

There’s a bunch more. Koufax, Jeter, 2003 Topps Pujols etc. BO user cardsforever may have a complete list; he’s done a lot of work on calling thee out. I just know the cards when I see them.

JrFinest · 06-08-2021, 10:53 PM

It amazing that all this fraud always seems to be affiliated with this company in some way or another.

BeanCollects · 06-09-2021, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Here’s some: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1290903

There’s a bunch more. Koufax, Jeter, 2003 Topps Pujols etc. BO user cardsforever may have a complete list; he’s done a lot of work on calling thee out. I just know the cards when I see them.

Thanks!

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cardsin47 · 06-09-2021, 06:38 AM

I guess I never thought about Cards in this price range being worth the risk of faking — but bucks are bucks (my assumption is relatively low dollar card, even when authentic?)

hammertime · 06-09-2021, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Here’s some: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1290903

There’s a bunch more. Koufax, Jeter, 2003 Topps Pujols etc. BO user cardsforever may have a complete list; he’s done a lot of work on calling thee out. I just know the cards when I see them.

I've seen a lot of those Mays cards popping up lately. Same seller has Bart Starr card also. fursafe55

3124508 on COMC · 06-09-2021, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

I've seen a lot of those Mays cards popping up lately. Same seller has Bart Starr card also. fursafe55

Yeah, every autographed card in his active and completed listings is counterfeit.

3124508 on COMC · 06-09-2021, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cardsin47

I guess I never thought about Cards in this price range being worth the risk of faking — but bucks are bucks (my assumption is relatively low dollar card, even when authentic?)

Dozens of cards sold every week, multiple times a week, for five years. Even if they only get $50 a pop (lower end) you're well into the six-figure range, probably into seven-figures.

tconte · 06-09-2021, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JrFinest

It amazing that all this fraud always seems to be affiliated with this company in some way or another.

It makes the most sense. You can hide as a consignor, get great exposure,
have bidder identities hidden, and you don't even do any of the leg work
selling!

I'm just wondering if they go back to PSA and then they ok and send back
to PWCC would they copy and paste their comments from other auctions
deemed ok the second time around or use new lingo when relisting since these
are autos?

Might be time for another Nat podcast! All is good. BODA who?

Pink Pussycat · 06-09-2021, 12:15 PM

So PSA can't detect trimming, re-coloring, bleaching or added paper stock. And obviously they cannot identify counterfeit cards.

Which begs the question... Is there anything they could do (or not do) that would hurt their corrupt business? Since their sheep submitters don't care about accuracy, honesty or integrity, they appear to be bulletproof.

Never Get Cheated.

csmtampa · 06-09-2021, 02:59 PM

To think that they're not aware of these complete counterfeit cards being around for years is kind of mind boggling lol

unclemonkey · 06-09-2021, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BeanCollects

You’re doing gods work

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Amen!

Were they just trying to hire people to grade?

Should tell you all we need to know.

JrFinest · 06-09-2021, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pink Pussycat

So PSA can't detect trimming, re-coloring, bleaching or added paper stock. And obviously they cannot identify counterfeit cards.

Which begs the question... Is there anything they could do (or not do) that would hurt their corrupt business? Since their sheep submitters don't care about accuracy, honesty or integrity, they appear to be bulletproof.

Never Get Cheated.

It also makes me wonder how big of an operation this is if their counterfeiting newer cards.

cking · 06-09-2021, 10:55 PM

I see PSA is still busy screwing things up

Good job boys

Keep up the good work

Yikes

3124508 on COMC · 06-10-2021, 09:31 PM

Bump. Still for sale.

trendy26 · 06-10-2021, 10:46 PM

Someone please remind me why PSA commands a premium over BGS when they’ve been exposed plenty of times for grading counterfeit or trimmed cards????

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3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,379	ALERT: PWCC Selling Counterfeit PSA 5 2009 Upper Deck USA Bryce Harper Autograph Buyer beware of this counterfeit card graded by PSA that will be for sale on eBay in less than an hour. PWCC is also selling a counterfeit 2001 UD Legends Bart Starr auto that has been authenticated by PSA. Both cards were submitted in the same PSA submission. https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/vaul...etplace/138185 https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/vaul...etplace/138208 __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

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3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,379	Bump. Still for sale. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

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Biohazarddfl Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 2,294 chrisfl_cards_on_ig ChrisinFlorida	Bravo. How the heck did you know these were counterfeit? Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

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BBases31 Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 7,603	Great work as always

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JrFinest Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,117 jrfinest_cards	It amazing that all this fraud always seems to be affiliated with this company in some way or another.

06-09-2021, 12:15 PM	#19
Pink Pussycat Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 595	So PSA can't detect trimming, re-coloring, bleaching or added paper stock. And obviously they cannot identify counterfeit cards. Which begs the question... Is there anything they could do (or not do) that would hurt their corrupt business? Since their sheep submitters don't care about accuracy, honesty or integrity, they appear to be bulletproof. Never Get Cheated.

06-09-2021, 02:59 PM	#20
csmtampa Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,270	To think that they're not aware of these complete counterfeit cards being around for years is kind of mind boggling lol

06-09-2021, 10:55 PM	#23
cking Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 16,263	I see PSA is still busy screwing things up Good job boys Keep up the good work Yikes

06-10-2021, 10:46 PM	#25
trendy26 Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,083	Someone please remind me why PSA commands a premium over BGS when they’ve been exposed plenty of times for grading counterfeit or trimmed cards????