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Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 10
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Purchased an eBay sportscard team break auction for the Charlotte Hornets from Breaker High Cards with over 1,700 feedback score and 99.5% rating.
This was for team break of the Charlotte Hornets for FOTL 2020-21 Panini Select Basketball. During this live streamed break, the seller pulled a Neon Orange LaMelo Ball Rookie Jersey AUTO /30 valued at ~10k. He first tried scamming by sending to an incorrect address with the package opened and retaped to blame the "missing" card on household it was delivered. USPS and I cleared up this scheme very quickly. The package I finally received obviously did not contain the $10k card and only contained a single card worth less than $1. After confronting him about his failed tampered package scheme attempt he admitted that he didn't send it to me and the reason being that since the "redemption card" didn't explicitly state "Charlotte Hornets" that he didn't send it to me. I showed him that he didn't have a "redemption spot" for sale or sold during this specific break and now he claims he sold a separate redemption spot in a DIFFERENT auction. https://ibb.co/album/5TLwBq for the string of our conversation through eBay messaging as well as other images countering his lies. Please read the conversation from oldest to new (bottom to top). He had his live stream with chat disabled and private messaging on eBay disabled for obvious reasons. Obviously by his feedback score he does honest breaks when they are average cards but exceptional rare redemptions he will scam you. I've been working tirelessly to spread this information on all social media platforms so others don't get screwed over like me. Please spread awareness of this scammer and tell others to avoid. https://www.reddit.com/r/basketballc...er_high_cards/ https://www.reddit.com/r/sportscards...er_high_cards/ His eBay "store": https://www.ebay.com/usr/breakerhighcards?ul_noapp=true Last edited by parksta15; 08-16-2021 at 05:41 PM. |
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Banned
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 22,801
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I’m assuming it’s the FOTL break sold on 8/7? If so there was no redemption spot sold as you stated.
Breaking has become such a scammy part of the hobby. I’d never consider joining an Ebay break. It’s just scams on top of scams there anymore. |
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 463
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Has this guy sold a single redemption spot on any of his breaks? None of the panini redemptions say the team name, but I'm guessing he usually ships them to the team spot or he'd have hundreds of negs
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Here it is
https://www.blowoutforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=45 Also, you should fix your reddit links before you repost, those don't take you to the page.
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out
Posts: 17,762
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I would sue him
Sounds like a low life degenerate POS
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Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 532
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I'm glad you posted this here. I wouldn't have found it otherwise.
I'd encourage you to file a lawsuit. Small claims. Firs though I think you should go to the police. This is theft. This is your property. They may not be able to help but you should ask. The idea that the card is not a Charlotte Hornets cards is laughable. If it gets to this point maybe you can refer to the team checklists from Beckett https://www.beckett.com/news/2020-21...cards/#hornets I have never heard of a redemption spot in a break. Maybe if it is a player break and not all players are listed but you bought all Hornets cards and he's clearly trying to keep this for himself. |
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 22,152
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That's a damn shame, and a crime! I'm not sure how you can get the guy, anyone can help or advise here?
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Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: NY
Posts: 433
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The biggest red flag is them thinking their explanation ends at “we sold it on another platform”. I’d be sending you every single detail of exactly how and where I sold that redemption spot. Not just saying I did and hoping that works
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,298
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If USPS is already involved with his damaged mail scheme, you may have a case of mail fraud by filing at https://www.uspis.gov/report.
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I would ban you but I have no sway or pull here. |
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Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 12,966
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That's brutal. Sorry OP. Disgusting.
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He's lazy getting feedback removed but this should be a sign alone he's greedy
No shipping after 26 days price of product went up and my order was cancelled??? 2020 Panini Prizm 1st Off The Line FOTL Football Sealed Hobby Box (#224280307950) |
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Neon Orange LaMelo Ball Rookie Jersey AUTO /15 you say this is from a FOTL 2020-21 Panini Select Basketball box. according to the checklist... https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...nchor_1_361265 Rookie Jersey Autographs Set Checklist 40 cards. Serial numbered #/199. PRIZM PARALLELS: Disco, Gold Wave, Red Wave, Purple #/99, Neon Orange Pulsar FOTL #/30, Tie-Dye #/25, Neon Purple Pulsar FOTL #/15, Gold #/10, Gold Disco #/10, Black 1/1, Black Disco 1/1, Black Snake Skin Pulsar FOTL 1/1. 85 bids and ended at $7,000, not $10,000 https://www.ebay.com/itm/40304197500...p2047675.l2557
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Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 10
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My mistake, that's correct it is /30 not /15. I was working on too many things but this doesn't change any of the facts.
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no...but you do not want to start throwing incorrect information out there in cases like this.
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Napa Valley
Posts: 4,464
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Sounds like a very frustrating experience. Reading the transcript of your message exchange gave me anxiety. Will not be buying breaks from that guy.
But $10K for a card like that is a bit ridiculous to me.
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Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 10
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Appreciate it. Edited my original post to correct it.
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Banned
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 964
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![]() I did my part buddy! Hopefully this a.. hole gets it and sends you what is rightfully yours! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Join Date: May 2021
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 568
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Pay a lawyer a few hundred bucks to send an official letter (overnighted) to their address threatening further action if card isn't sent. If they want to pursue then file a lawsuit.
You have a lot of proof but if it were me, I'd quit posting and call a lawyer first thing tomorrow. Last edited by Cardboard Dawg; 08-16-2021 at 06:05 PM. |
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#20 |
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Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 10
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Yes, submitted a police report and file a claim with eBay fraud investigations already.
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this would be a civil suit, and you can only go after fees in select circumstances.
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Join Date: May 2021
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 568
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 28,059
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Then even if you get a judgement it's not always easy to enforce judgements. Especially when multiple jurisdictions involved.
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https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...ide-30337.html this is quite true as well. just because you "win" does not mean you will ever see any money from the other party.
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Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 8,676
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Too bad extreme hobby fraud exists far more often than it should.
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IRS Tax Tip 2022-57
A hobby is any activity that a person pursues because they enjoy it and with no intention of making a profit. People operate a business with the intention of making a profit. |
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