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12-02-2021, 12:25 AM
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Lockout and Card Prices
If this lockout drags on, what happens to card prices?
Players will have less games to play in their career and miss milestones. What is your opinion on card prices if this drags on?
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12-02-2021, 12:28 AM
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I don’t think any games will be missed.
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12-02-2021, 12:30 AM
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12-02-2021, 12:31 AM
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No need for concern yet, everyone knew this initial phase was coming.
If it drags on for a while you may find some deals, but things will come roaring back once they reach an agreement like it never happened in the first place. I would be extremely surprised if any games are actually missed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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12-02-2021, 12:33 AM
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If you’re surprised by today’s news, you’ve not been paying attention for YEARS! They will play baseball as planned in 2022.
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12-02-2021, 12:35 AM
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My sources indicate that all baseball card prices will drop to 80% of eBay.
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12-02-2021, 12:44 AM
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Crap, all of my biggest investments are missing their December games
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12-02-2021, 12:58 AM
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12-02-2021, 01:01 AM
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12-02-2021, 01:14 AM
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2021 Panini Prism blasters will be forced down in price to $19.99 and when they still don’t sell they will be finally ripped open and inserted into the crappiest re-pack products ever re-packed, throughout the 2020s.
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12-02-2021, 01:43 AM
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If spring training and the season are impacted, it will hurt new releases and unopened product.
There wont be stimulus cash and lockdowns to prop up the hobby. Vintage will be fine. Guys like Harper, Betts, Arenado etc will face headwinds if games are lost, but their legacies will account for the labor-ownership strife -- similar to guys like Ted Williams who lost peak years due to military service. |
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12-02-2021, 01:47 AM
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The traditional milestones like 3k hits, 500 hrs, 300 wins etc are not realistic anymore. So even if a guy like Harper misses out on a lot of games like in 2020, it isn't likely to keep him from 500 home runs. He would need to nearly double his current total of 270, which was accrued during his peak years.
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12-02-2021, 01:49 AM
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12-02-2021, 02:30 AM
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12-02-2021, 02:48 AM
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His career 162-game average is 34. He needs at least 7 seasons to get to 500 home runs (230 / 34 = 6.76). That would take him to his age-35 season. That's assuming peak performance and durability. As he gets older, he'll physically decline, get hurt more and miss more games. I'll put his odds at <30%. |
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12-02-2021, 06:28 AM
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As discussed elsewhere, Nelson Cruz has a strong shot at 500 and needs only two more ok seasons to get there. Trouts only going to turn 30 and already has 310 homeruns. If he can play, I don’t see how he doesn’t reach 500. If he averages 20 a year for 10 more years he gets there. If he continues to hit his average number of homers, he’s there by age 35. Keep in mind, even if his body breaks down, the DH can keep him going. Altuve has almost 1800 hits and is going to be 32. Admittedly he has some work to do. If he does get it, it will be a longetivity thing…like playing into his 40’s. |
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12-02-2021, 06:45 AM
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12-02-2021, 07:08 AM
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The 300 Wins achievement though, is extremely likely to be a thing of the past, as the starting Pitchers role has changed a lot over the past 10–15? Years
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12-02-2021, 07:47 AM
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Lotta money has been going in the vintage already. I think more people have been moving some $$$ out of ultra modern. As for Harper, I am going with a 75% chance that he gets the 500 homers. I just feel right now that he’s gonna play a long time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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12-02-2021, 08:03 AM
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Tom Brady is on pace for 5k yards and 44 TD at age 44 and you don’t think Harper can hit 34 HR when he’s 35? Or for apples to apples Nelson Cruz just hit 32 hr at age 40. As long as Harper stays healthy and wants to keep playing he should easily get to 500 hr. Performing at peak levels in your 30s is very realistic with modern training, nutrition and “supplements”. He also plays home games in one of the better parks for home runs. |
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12-02-2021, 08:05 AM
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"XXXX and card prices" Threads are getting old.
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12-02-2021, 08:11 AM
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Hobby darlings like Yordan, Bichette, Robert, and Devers are currently seeing notable dips in prices. I imagine that we would continue a slight downward trend in a lockout situation (regardless of whether games are missed or not). So the result may just be an extended off-season buying period. Talk about lockouts, CBA negotiations, and millionaires vs billionaires just turns people off in general and doesn’t energize them to buy cards.
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12-02-2021, 08:21 AM
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I just farted, it stinks. How will this effect card prices?
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12-02-2021, 08:29 AM
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You’re probably looking at a -20% hit to your entire collection from that gaseous blend |
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