BGS to PSA Crossover Grading

rtanner1019 · 01-11-2022, 12:05 PM

For those of you who have previously sent in cards you have graded by BGS to PSA for a crossover grading, what have your experiences been like?

I have a bunch of BGS 9.5's with all 9.5 sub grades and I'm wondering what the chances are that those would equate to a PSA 10.

jcmel323 · 01-11-2022, 12:22 PM

I sent (10) bgs 9.5 of the same card back in late 2020
6 were quads or better
4 were with one subgrade 9
Only 2 were crossover to psa 10

2 Years debating if i should crack them and send them raw lol

mrgant · 01-11-2022, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jcmel323

I sent (10) bgs 9.5 of the same card back in late 2020
6 were quads or better
4 were with one subgrade 9
Only 2 were crossover to psa 10

2 Years debating if i should crack them and send them raw lol

Wow. Surprisingly low success rates.
I would love to hear from someone who tried to cross a bgs 8.5 to PSA.

RufussCkingston · 01-11-2022, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mrgant

Wow. Surprisingly low success rates.
I would love to hear from someone who tried to cross a bgs 8.5 to PSA.

That sounds like something that should be cracked.... A PSA 7 probably worth more than a BGS 8.5!

Gigantor · 01-11-2022, 03:59 PM

Take a few minutes and watch this video by pcsportscards. I'm firmly in the crack & resub camp - https://youtu.be/57r_9oYjftQ

dictoresno · 01-11-2022, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mrgant

Wow. Surprisingly low success rates.
I would love to hear from someone who tried to cross a bgs 8.5 to PSA.

I have successfully crossed over a bunch of BGS 9.5's to PSA 10. all were at least quad 9.5, some had one 10 sub grade. all crossed. even had one no subs 9.5 cross to a PSA 10. the ones that didn't cross by meeting the min grade of 10, were cracked and sent raw and got 10's. the only exception was a tripe 9.5 and a corners sub of 9. This successfully crossed first time to a PSA 10. the corner BGS saw was atomic pattern glare, not a bad corner. PSA saw through that and gave it a 10.

I crossed a BGS 8.5 (triple 9 and edges 8) to a PSA 7, which honestly I feel was the more appropriate grade for the card due to edge chipping on back. I thought BGS overgraded it but wanted it in a PSA holder. set it as a min grade of 7 though figuring thats what it would get.

I cracked out a BGS 9 (triple 9.5's and an 8.5 centering) and got a PSA 10.

I cracked out a BGS 9 (triple 9.5's and an 8.5 surface) to a PSA 8. Not sure what was wrong with the surface, I checked it over before sending and wiped it down with a microfiber thinking it was a fingerprint or something. But apparently both companies saw something I must've missed.

towerymt · 01-11-2022, 09:38 PM

1 for 2 on true-gem-plus. The one with '10' surface crossed, the one with '9.5' surface ('10' was for centering) didn't cross.

Surface is the hardest to judge through the BGS holder, so the success rate will always be low.

Spacemanspif · 01-11-2022, 11:17 PM

I've crossed 12 to PSA 10 out of 20 cards. Don't rely purely on the BGS grades though, take a look at the card as best you can through the case. Sometimes you have a 9.5 sub on a corner but when you actually look at it, you know it's a 9 and won't cross. PSA is gonna catch that too. Oh, and of course make sure the slab is clean, if it's scratched up they won't be able to look through it for blemishes and won't consider crossing it over.

regularp · 01-11-2022, 11:36 PM

I think I'm 2-10. One of the cards that crossed had a 9 sub-grade too.

rtanner1019 · 01-12-2022, 03:00 PM

So I'll give some examples of some I'm thinking of crossing over and see what you all think.

rtanner1019 · 01-12-2022, 03:02 PM

Two more.

rtanner1019 · 01-12-2022, 03:05 PM

Last two.

UsernameHere · 01-12-2022, 08:33 PM

I feel like success rate has got to be much higher cracking and subbing, than subbing in the cases.

I know there isn't a way to properly test that - but I'd be a lot of money that's the case.

I have a card I really want to try that with, it's a BGS 9 - (9.5, 9.5, 9, 9). I know it's a really low shot - but even if it came back a PSA 9, it would still cover the cost of grading (the $ difference between BGS and PSA 9). But if it happened to get a 10, that would be worth a few thousand. I've talked to a few people that have had success doing the same kind of crossover, so it's tempting to give it a shot.

brios8 · 01-12-2022, 08:37 PM

Just sent two BGS 9.5 quads at the Super Express $300 level
Both cards are valued very close to $5,000 each

One didnt meet the PSA 10 min, however the other one did and got upcharged another $300.

ill take it.. 1 of 2

Total cost about $1,000 and the card gained close to $3-3.5k in value

Kfoj · 01-13-2022, 06:49 PM

Does Beckett and PSA use a 10X magnify glass to examine cards for grading?

zac949 · 01-13-2022, 08:04 PM

It looks like I went 1 for 2 at the Super Express level. Both had three 9.5s and a 10 sub grade. Still waiting for final grades to post.

Dusty1985 · 01-13-2022, 10:14 PM

I’ve sent a few bgs 7-8 that made psa 10

towerymt · 01-13-2022, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty1985

I’ve sent a few bgs 7-8 that made psa 10

Got pics?

RufussCkingston · 01-13-2022, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty1985

I’ve sent a few bgs 7-8 that made psa 10

I assume after cracking.....

BearDownSpurs · 01-14-2022, 10:22 AM

After repeatedly and severely getting my butt kicked on crossing quad 9.5's, i decided to start cracking, in some cases with the exact same cards. After cracking, I went 17/20 getting 10's, with 2 9's and an 8. I think you've got to be willing to just roll the dice.

zac949 · 01-14-2022, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zac949

It looks like I went 1 for 2 at the Super Express level. Both had three 9.5s and a 10 sub grade. Still waiting for final grades to post.

Grades popped today and it looks like I was wrong. I went 2 for 2 but since I already had a 10 on one of them, the registry trick didn’t work for it. I assumed it didn’t cross over. I have 5 others with them at the regular service level for cross over. Two are quad 9.5’s and the others have 9.5’s with one 10 subgrade.

RufussCkingston · 01-14-2022, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by zac949

Grades popped today and it looks like I was wrong. I went 2 for 2 but since I already had a 10 on one of them, the registry trick didn’t work for it. I assumed it didn’t cross over. I have 5 others with them at the regular service level for cross over. Two are quad 9.5’s and the others have 9.5’s with one 10 subgrade.

What cards were they?

zac949 · 01-14-2022, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RufussCkingston

What cards were they?

2019 Topps Chrome Update 21 Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Orange Refractor

2019 Topps Chrome 201 Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Gold Refractor

Garmin · 01-27-2022, 05:04 PM

I cracked a BGS min gem 9 centering Trout Update that I bought here, PSA 10 just popped today! The card was real sharp and just very slightly OC. Definitely recommend cracking vs crossover if you’re willing to take the risk.

bdejong1 · 01-27-2022, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Garmin

I cracked a BGS min gem 9 centering Trout Update that I bought here, PSA 10 just popped today! The card was real sharp and just very slightly OC. Definitely recommend cracking vs crossover if you’re willing to take the risk.

Wow! What a great crack out.

I had a similar success with a BGS 9 2018 Chrome Update Pink Refractor Juan Soto. Centering was 8.5! But the other subgrades were solid. Cracked out and got a PSA 10. Sent through PC Sportscards.

01-11-2022, 12:05 PM	#1
rtanner1019 Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 53	BGS to PSA Crossover Grading For those of you who have previously sent in cards you have graded by BGS to PSA for a crossover grading, what have your experiences been like? I have a bunch of BGS 9.5's with all 9.5 sub grades and I'm wondering what the chances are that those would equate to a PSA 10.

01-11-2022, 03:59 PM	#5
Gigantor Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 3,411 Gigantor	Take a few minutes and watch this video by pcsportscards. I'm firmly in the crack & resub camp - https://youtu.be/57r_9oYjftQ __________________ PC - Jake Long - Blue Detroit Lions - Santa Claus Cards

01-11-2022, 09:38 PM	#7
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,664	1 for 2 on true-gem-plus. The one with '10' surface crossed, the one with '9.5' surface ('10' was for centering) didn't cross. Surface is the hardest to judge through the BGS holder, so the success rate will always be low. __________________ In search of... 2018 Topps Chrome Update Max Scherzer #HMT77: Superfractor 2019 Topps Update Carter Kieboom #US109: Platinum

01-12-2022, 03:00 PM	#10
rtanner1019 Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 53	So I'll give some examples of some I'm thinking of crossing over and see what you all think. Last edited by rtanner1019; 11-11-2022 at 06:00 PM.

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rtanner1019 Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 53	Two more. Last edited by rtanner1019; 11-11-2022 at 06:00 PM.

01-11-2022, 12:22 PM	#2
jcmel323 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,924	I sent (10) bgs 9.5 of the same card back in late 2020 6 were quads or better 4 were with one subgrade 9 Only 2 were crossover to psa 10 2 Years debating if i should crack them and send them raw lol

01-11-2022, 11:17 PM	#8
Spacemanspif Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 5,844 Spacemanspif	I've crossed 12 to PSA 10 out of 20 cards. Don't rely purely on the BGS grades though, take a look at the card as best you can through the case. Sometimes you have a 9.5 sub on a corner but when you actually look at it, you know it's a 9 and won't cross. PSA is gonna catch that too. Oh, and of course make sure the slab is clean, if it's scratched up they won't be able to look through it for blemishes and won't consider crossing it over.

01-11-2022, 11:36 PM	#9
regularp Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,124	I think I'm 2-10. One of the cards that crossed had a 9 sub-grade too.

01-12-2022, 03:05 PM	#12
rtanner1019 Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 53	Last two. Last edited by rtanner1019; 11-11-2022 at 06:00 PM.

01-12-2022, 08:33 PM	#13
UsernameHere Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: NC Posts: 159 kr0_0kd	I feel like success rate has got to be much higher cracking and subbing, than subbing in the cases. I know there isn't a way to properly test that - but I'd be a lot of money that's the case. I have a card I really want to try that with, it's a BGS 9 - (9.5, 9.5, 9, 9). I know it's a really low shot - but even if it came back a PSA 9, it would still cover the cost of grading (the $ difference between BGS and PSA 9). But if it happened to get a 10, that would be worth a few thousand. I've talked to a few people that have had success doing the same kind of crossover, so it's tempting to give it a shot.

01-12-2022, 08:37 PM	#14
brios8 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: South Padre Island, TX Posts: 6,992 brios8 brios8	Just sent two BGS 9.5 quads at the Super Express $300 level Both cards are valued very close to $5,000 each One didnt meet the PSA 10 min, however the other one did and got upcharged another $300. ill take it.. 1 of 2 Total cost about $1,000 and the card gained close to $3-3.5k in value

01-13-2022, 06:49 PM	#15
Kfoj Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: New Jersey Posts: 176 blackgti06	Does Beckett and PSA use a 10X magnify glass to examine cards for grading?

01-13-2022, 08:04 PM	#16
zac949 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2,648 zac949	It looks like I went 1 for 2 at the Super Express level. Both had three 9.5s and a 10 sub grade. Still waiting for final grades to post.

01-13-2022, 10:14 PM	#17
Dusty1985 Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 4,312	I’ve sent a few bgs 7-8 that made psa 10

01-14-2022, 10:22 AM	#20
BearDownSpurs Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: San Antonio Posts: 319 Jdmandel	After repeatedly and severely getting my butt kicked on crossing quad 9.5's, i decided to start cracking, in some cases with the exact same cards. After cracking, I went 17/20 getting 10's, with 2 9's and an 8. I think you've got to be willing to just roll the dice.

01-27-2022, 05:04 PM	#24
Garmin Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lake Forest, CA Posts: 1,973	I cracked a BGS min gem 9 centering Trout Update that I bought here, PSA 10 just popped today! The card was real sharp and just very slightly OC. Definitely recommend cracking vs crossover if you’re willing to take the risk.