PSA old slab reholder

jbettis32 · 04-29-2022, 11:29 PM

Just bought a PSA old label and want to reslab to new PSA lighthouse label. The PSA holder is in good condition, no crack, no damage; if so, will PSA regrade the card again or just simply reslab without grading it? Also will it carry the same cert no. or issue a new cert. no?

Many thanks for the help...

mjohnatgt · 04-30-2022, 06:52 AM

>99% of the time: Same grade, same cert #.
<1% either the card has been reported to them to be altered and they might look again, or someone spots a grade that would be considered "egregious" and they would regrade if necessary.

jbettis32 · 04-30-2022, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

>99% of the time: Same grade, same cert #.
<1% either the card has been reported to them to be altered and they might look again, or someone spots a grade that would be considered "egregious" and they would regrade if necessary.

Many thanks for the help... but how do I know if the card had been reported? I checked with the PSA cert. verification, and it seems legit with the exact card with old label slab.

If for some reason, PSA doesn't think it as 10, will they return it with old slab like crossover or will they crack it out and issue new grade with new slab?

mjohnatgt · 04-30-2022, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jbettis32

Many thanks for the help... but how do I know if the card had been reported? I checked with the PSA cert. verification, and it seems legit with the exact card with old label slab.

If for some reason, PSA doesn't think it as 10, will they return it with old slab like crossover or will they crack it out and issue new grade with new slab?

Normally the Cert Verification will say something like: "Please contact PSA customer service." Or check to see if it's been outed as trimmed on one of the many trimming threads and the website tracking tainted cert numbers.

If they find the grade is very wrong, like a PSA 7 or below on a 10 (probably due to damage during the slabbing process that wasn't caught during QC), then they'll crack it out, regrade it as a 7, and owe you the difference in current market value.

towerymt · 04-30-2022, 09:30 AM

I got a check from PSA recently for a "review" I sent in. PSA-9, but card was clearly damaged and I didn't feel good about selling it as-is. PSA regraded it a 6 and paid me the difference in value. Again, this was a "review", not a "reholder".

This shouldnt be typical for a re-holder, but goes to demonstrate what to expect IF they decide to review/regrade and drop the grade.

jbettis32 · 04-30-2022, 09:40 AM

Many thanks for all the info.... found the original slab is normal, and don't see it as trimmed especially it ahd the oldest label and should be graded in long... Anyway, will send it to reholder for a lighthouse label, and it sounds good that PSA will even pay me back the difference if the grade is under though.

Sluggerrr · 05-20-2024, 10:05 PM

I was looking at some cards for sale on another forum and they are PSA slabs with a 90000000+ Cert #. However, the slabs don't have the shiny, silver PSA label in the lower, center portion of the paper tab. Do they not add the label to reslabs?

inaka · 05-20-2024, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sluggerrr

I was looking at some cards for sale on another forum and they are PSA slabs with a 90000000+ Cert #. However, the slabs don't have the shiny, silver PSA label in the lower, center portion of the paper tab. Do they not add the label to reslabs?

All reholders will have a brand new slab/plastic along with a new label with the current modern label design, just keeping the same cert number.

towerymt · 05-20-2024, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sluggerrr

I was looking at some cards for sale on another forum and they are PSA slabs with a 90000000+ Cert #. However, the slabs don't have the shiny, silver PSA label in the lower, center portion of the paper tab. Do they not add the label to reslabs?

There were '8' and '9' cert numbers from a long time ago. I don't recall the reasons, but there are some out there.

Here's one. This card was sold in 2018:

https://www.psacard.com/cert/81000010

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...94314350549561

Here's a '9' cert number that was sold in 2017:
https://www.psacard.com/cert/90000005

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...48992457462311

These cards may have been graded 20+ yr ago.

dictoresno · 05-21-2024, 12:20 AM

[QUOTE=towerymt;19463410]There were '8' and '9' cert numbers from a long time ago. I don't recall the reasons, but there are some out there.

they weren't exactly going in order over the years. in the past 5 years they have been and have been using up a lot of the unused serial numbers starting in the low 2XXXXXXX range, then switched to the new label around 278XXXXX or so.

Sluggerrr · 05-21-2024, 06:55 AM

Thanks for the help, everyone. The slab looks just like the one of the Nicklaus card that towerymt provided. I didn't realize they used 80000000 and 90000000 cert numbers way back when. They're vintage cards so it's not surprising that they were graded a while ago.

inaka · 05-21-2024, 02:20 PM

This is another reason I prefer SGC. When you lookup a cert number on SGC's site, it tells you the exact month/year of when the card was graded.

PSA could easily display this as well, as they must have the date of when the card was originally graded. Seems like such an easy update to the cert database on the web site if they displayed this, especially now that certs are starting with an "8" and "9", and if you get a reholder on a card graded ages ago, one might think that it was "newly graded" to the newer more strict PSA standards when it really wasn't.

prospectorgems · 02-17-2025, 09:21 AM

I wanted to bring this back to attention to see if anyone has any experiences lately with PSA regrading cards in older slabs for reholders? I looked over both of the cards I want to send in and they both look like 10's but with PSA's crazy high standards lately I want to be certain I am not sending something in for a potential regrade.

04-29-2022, 11:29 PM	#1
jbettis32 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: HK Posts: 725 jbettis32	PSA old slab reholder Just bought a PSA old label and want to reslab to new PSA lighthouse label. The PSA holder is in good condition, no crack, no damage; if so, will PSA regrade the card again or just simply reslab without grading it? Also will it carry the same cert no. or issue a new cert. no? Many thanks for the help...

05-21-2024, 12:20 AM	#10
dictoresno Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: NJ Posts: 4,268 smzcards	[QUOTE=towerymt;19463410]There were '8' and '9' cert numbers from a long time ago. I don't recall the reasons, but there are some out there. they weren't exactly going in order over the years. in the past 5 years they have been and have been using up a lot of the unused serial numbers starting in the low 2XXXXXXX range, then switched to the new label around 278XXXXX or so. __________________ myslabs.to/smzcards

05-21-2024, 02:20 PM	#12
inaka Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 1,125	This is another reason I prefer SGC. When you lookup a cert number on SGC's site, it tells you the exact month/year of when the card was graded. PSA could easily display this as well, as they must have the date of when the card was originally graded. Seems like such an easy update to the cert database on the web site if they displayed this, especially now that certs are starting with an "8" and "9", and if you get a reholder on a card graded ages ago, one might think that it was "newly graded" to the newer more strict PSA standards when it really wasn't. __________________ Sports Card Organizer Software for Mac & Windows www.InakaSoftware.com/SportsCardDatabase

04-30-2022, 06:52 AM	#2
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,666 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	>99% of the time: Same grade, same cert #. <1% either the card has been reported to them to be altered and they might look again, or someone spots a grade that would be considered "egregious" and they would regrade if necessary.

04-30-2022, 09:30 AM	#5
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,796	I got a check from PSA recently for a "review" I sent in. PSA-9, but card was clearly damaged and I didn't feel good about selling it as-is. PSA regraded it a 6 and paid me the difference in value. Again, this was a "review", not a "reholder". This shouldnt be typical for a re-holder, but goes to demonstrate what to expect IF they decide to review/regrade and drop the grade.

04-30-2022, 09:40 AM	#6
jbettis32 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: HK Posts: 725 jbettis32	Many thanks for all the info.... found the original slab is normal, and don't see it as trimmed especially it ahd the oldest label and should be graded in long... Anyway, will send it to reholder for a lighthouse label, and it sounds good that PSA will even pay me back the difference if the grade is under though.

05-20-2024, 10:05 PM	#7
Sluggerrr Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Posts: 213	I was looking at some cards for sale on another forum and they are PSA slabs with a 90000000+ Cert #. However, the slabs don't have the shiny, silver PSA label in the lower, center portion of the paper tab. Do they not add the label to reslabs?

05-21-2024, 06:55 AM	#11
Sluggerrr Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Posts: 213	Thanks for the help, everyone. The slab looks just like the one of the Nicklaus card that towerymt provided. I didn't realize they used 80000000 and 90000000 cert numbers way back when. They're vintage cards so it's not surprising that they were graded a while ago.

02-17-2025, 09:21 AM	#13
prospectorgems Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,219 hobbygems	I wanted to bring this back to attention to see if anyone has any experiences lately with PSA regrading cards in older slabs for reholders? I looked over both of the cards I want to send in and they both look like 10's but with PSA's crazy high standards lately I want to be certain I am not sending something in for a potential regrade.