2003 SP Authentic LeBron James AUTO Question

HeyRelaxGuy · 07-18-2022, 12:44 PM

It's pretty weird how some of these cards were signed all the way on the right edge and then he would just go back and sign the middle area again. Was he watching TV while signing these? lol Anyhow, I consider this card to be LeBron's 3rd best (behind Ultimate, and of course, the Exquisite) and I do have an opportunity to pick-up a second copy, however, this one has been signed all the way on the right edge. Do you think that these examples should be worth less compared to the ones that were signed in the middle?

And one more thing: the card posted above is an example of what I'm being offered. It is NOT the same card. If this card belongs to you and you want it taken down, then kindly let me know! Thanks

GOATMJ · 07-18-2022, 12:53 PM

Yes, it would bother me that the auto is not centered.

asujbl · 07-18-2022, 12:56 PM

It wouldn't bother me personally... but it would bother a whole lot of OCD collectors willing to spend that kind of money

I realize /500 makes being picky less possible (I've owned almost a dozen of these over the last 20 years... I get how hard they are to find)

But I'd wait for a different one if I was dropping that coin currently

Which I know it's necessarily possible... so if you've got the FU money? Just buy it

JimCa · 07-18-2022, 12:59 PM

Not sure if it was by accident or by design, but all the ones I've seen where the auto is to the right are numbered below 100.

98pmgs · 07-18-2022, 01:18 PM

There are only 500 of those cards.
Don't let something small like that bother you.

I would be happy to own that card, period.

HeyRelaxGuy · 07-18-2022, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JimCa

Not sure if it was by accident or by design, but all the ones I've seen where the auto is to the right are numbered below 100.

Interesting observation. So maybe about ten - twenty percent of them have signatures on the right edge? And like asujbl pointed out, this card is only #'ed to 500, and so it doesn't leave many nice ones available. We could break it down even more here. Some of them were chopped up and are now either in raw state or sitting inside AUTHENTIC holders. And finally, maybe a few are still in wax packs?

And I LOL'ed when asujbl wrote "FU money." I just love the terms that you guys throw around on this forum! I think I need to send a private message to pcptrade and maybe he can teach me how I can get "FU money!"

HeyRelaxGuy · 07-18-2022, 01:35 PM

Here is the one I currently own. I got it in a trade!

I would like another one, but I want to make sure I don't overpay considering the one I'm being offered has an AUTO that is way off!

asujbl · 07-18-2022, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HeyRelaxGuy

Here is the one I currently own. I got it in a trade!

I would like another one, but I want to make sure I don't overpay considering the AUTO is way off!

As I mentioned I've owned probably 10-12 copies over the last 20 years... and none of them were off center for the signature

I am interested to see if the less than 100 is correct

The side autograph bothers me. It just does. If I was spending $$$

If you're truly (not you specifically... but a high end buyer) willing to spend this much you should be picky. I totally disagree with the "I would be happy to own that card. Period" sentiment from above

As a PSA 10 collector? I'm not dropping 5 figures on something like all 10's are the same. They aren't

Now it simply comes down to whether you're willing to wait on something that is /500 when a lot of people have them stashed in their PC's

That's a personal decision

Deadshot · 07-18-2022, 02:12 PM

I'd be more worried about the trimmed copies than the signature being toward the side.

zack88 · 07-18-2022, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

As I mentioned I've owned probably 10-12 copies over the last 20 years... and none of them were off center for the signature

I am interested to see if the less than 100 is correct

The side autograph bothers me. It just does. If I was spending $$$

If you're truly (not you specifically... but a high end buyer) willing to spend this much you should be picky. I totally disagree with the "I would be happy to own that card. Period" sentiment from above

As a PSA 10 collector? I'm not dropping 5 figures on something like all 10's are the same. They aren't

Now it simply comes down to whether you're willing to wait on something that is /500 when a lot of people have them stashed in their PC's

That's a personal decision

The pic above shows a /500 with the auto to the right. So the /100 being the ones to the right probably isnt the case.

Ericc5Bears · 07-18-2022, 02:18 PM

I know you can't really be picky when it comes to high-end grails but that would annoy the hell out of me, I think it looks terrible.

bradyvick · 07-18-2022, 02:22 PM

yea thatd bother me tbh but im ocd
Esp if youre spending big $$$

Id trade up the one you have for an ultimate 250

HeyRelaxGuy · 07-18-2022, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zack88

The pic above shows a /500 with the auto to the right. So the /100 being the ones to the right probably isnt the case.

They're talking about the first hundred copies of this /500 card. For example, 032/500, 066/500, 091/500, etc.

HeyRelaxGuy · 07-18-2022, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bradyvick

Id trade up the one you have for an ultimate 250

That one is out of my league!

advan24r · 07-18-2022, 03:09 PM

I'll be more into being able to own it than letting that bother me. On the other hand, why are Anthony Edward autos so off centered too.

bradyvick · 07-18-2022, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HeyRelaxGuy

That one is out of my league!

Me too lol

recently got a chris bosh ultimate 250 they really are beauties in person

gameissued · 07-18-2022, 04:04 PM

If only it was back in the day when these were worth only a few hundred I'd try and get a "King James" inscription in the middle!

AbraCalabro · 07-18-2022, 05:01 PM

That actually looks dope, you can see the player's full image.

asujbl · 07-18-2022, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

That actually looks dope, you can see the player's full image.

Big calf guy?

AbraCalabro · 07-18-2022, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Big calf guy?

At least I'm not a CHUD

asujbl · 07-18-2022, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

At least I'm not a CHUD

I don’t know what this means

Is that a name? Why the capital letters?

AbraCalabro · 07-18-2022, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

I don’t know what this means

Is that a name? Why the capital letters?

omg

GET WITH THE TIMES

asujbl · 07-18-2022, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

omg

GET WITH THE TIMES

Why the capital letters again?

bmf · 07-18-2022, 07:56 PM

Centered or not, what a pathetic excuse for a signature. LeBron really rushed through this issue, basically just his initials. Compare this to his Exquisite 2003 rookies, night and day difference.

dapro · 07-18-2022, 08:15 PM

Mine is not centered too, but I'll hold on to it. I only have 5 LBJ cards now.

07-18-2022, 12:44 PM	#1
HeyRelaxGuy Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: Toronto Posts: 670	2003 SP Authentic LeBron James AUTO Question It's pretty weird how some of these cards were signed all the way on the right edge and then he would just go back and sign the middle area again. Was he watching TV while signing these? lol Anyhow, I consider this card to be LeBron's 3rd best (behind Ultimate, and of course, the Exquisite) and I do have an opportunity to pick-up a second copy, however, this one has been signed all the way on the right edge. Do you think that these examples should be worth less compared to the ones that were signed in the middle? And one more thing: the card posted above is an example of what I'm being offered. It is NOT the same card. If this card belongs to you and you want it taken down, then kindly let me know! Thanks

07-18-2022, 12:56 PM	#3
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 63,072 ohiosundevils	It wouldn't bother me personally... but it would bother a whole lot of OCD collectors willing to spend that kind of money I realize /500 makes being picky less possible (I've owned almost a dozen of these over the last 20 years... I get how hard they are to find) But I'd wait for a different one if I was dropping that coin currently Which I know it's necessarily possible... so if you've got the FU money? Just buy it __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

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HeyRelaxGuy Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: Toronto Posts: 670	Here is the one I currently own. I got it in a trade! I would like another one, but I want to make sure I don't overpay considering the one I'm being offered has an AUTO that is way off! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by HeyRelaxGuy; 07-18-2022 at 01:55 PM. Reason: Spelling

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Deadshot Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 7,694	I'd be more worried about the trimmed copies than the signature being toward the side. __________________ He said he name was “E”, so I introduced myself as “G”...The license plate said “IMNBITZ” or “IMNBISZ” or something. - G YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPuD3WYJ0rkpLqDdyavC2WA

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AbraCalabro Temporarily Suspended Join Date: May 2013 Location: Believe in Saint Abra. Posts: 10,748	That actually looks dope, you can see the player's full image. __________________ -FREE TRISTAN- LeBron Exquisite /99 - altered & damaged - A master class in corruption. NEVER FORGET: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1255123

07-18-2022, 12:53 PM	#2
GOATMJ Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 425	Yes, it would bother me that the auto is not centered.

07-18-2022, 12:59 PM	#4
JimCa Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Granite Bay, Ca Posts: 695	Not sure if it was by accident or by design, but all the ones I've seen where the auto is to the right are numbered below 100.

07-18-2022, 01:18 PM	#5
98pmgs Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 94	There are only 500 of those cards. Don't let something small like that bother you. I would be happy to own that card, period.

07-18-2022, 02:18 PM	#11
Ericc5Bears Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 1,264	I know you can't really be picky when it comes to high-end grails but that would annoy the hell out of me, I think it looks terrible.

07-18-2022, 02:22 PM	#12
bradyvick Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 138	yea thatd bother me tbh but im ocd Esp if youre spending big $$$ Id trade up the one you have for an ultimate 250

07-18-2022, 03:09 PM	#15
advan24r Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,143 advan24r	I'll be more into being able to own it than letting that bother me. On the other hand, why are Anthony Edward autos so off centered too.

07-18-2022, 04:04 PM	#17
gameissued Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,468 gameissued	If only it was back in the day when these were worth only a few hundred I'd try and get a "King James" inscription in the middle!

07-18-2022, 07:56 PM	#24
bmf Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,195	Centered or not, what a pathetic excuse for a signature. LeBron really rushed through this issue, basically just his initials. Compare this to his Exquisite 2003 rookies, night and day difference.

07-18-2022, 08:15 PM	#25
dapro Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,892 Dragonshop007	Mine is not centered too, but I'll hold on to it. I only have 5 LBJ cards now. __________________ Collecting rookie and auto of HOFer's and future HOFer's. PC: Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Anthony Davis,Mike Trout, John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins https://www.flickr.com/photos/156455278@N06/collections/72157666436269628/