Sports Cards Radio reports that it's confirmed that Fanatics will purchase Panini Ame

[hoi_ming]

https://youtu.be/aIN5AefEanY

They say it's confirmed that it will happen based on their industry sources.

[kingofsnake]

If true, I hope they allocate more resources to improve their abysmal customer service.

[gomiamigo]

Originally Posted by kingofsnake

If true, I hope they allocate more resources to improve their abysmal customer service.

'I'll take "Things that probably will never Happen," for $300, Alex.'

[Archangel1775]

Assuming this happens, I'm curious what they do with Prizm and Topps Chrome. The Topps base set in all sports works. National Treasures in all sports works as well. Flawless also.

[dunkindutchmen]

Fanatics saw the 400 Prizm parallels this year and said enough is enough.

[k13]

Originally Posted by dunkindutchmen

Fanatics saw the 400 Prizm parallels this year and said enough is enough.

No.
They'll make 4000 now.

[SoccerRCs]

Originally Posted by dunkindutchmen

Fanatics saw the 400 Prizm parallels this year and said enough is enough.

Yeah, I mean Panini basically held them hostage by printing a ton. Like ok, you can take the license but we gonna print to the mooon and destroy your market before you ever get your hands on it.

Textbook poison pill.

[AbraCalabro]

I have high hopes, but sounds like it's going to be just as bad with Fanatics if not worse.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by kingofsnake

If true, I hope they allocate more resources to improve their abysmal customer service.

They bought Topps and let them run as an independent company. They will most likely do the same thing with Panini America.

Fanatics has taken a very hands off approach in regards to actual management of the companies.

[Kopetkai]

Originally Posted by whitmm

They bought Topps and let them run as an independent company. They will most likely do the same thing with Panini America.

Fanatics has taken a very hands off approach in regards to actual management of the companies.

There's no way they do that long term. They are going to have to change things because the whole market is in flux. It would make sense for them not to rock the boat when they only owned Topps. But if they own both Topps and Panini they can get to work pushing the industry in the direction they want it to go. Probably no noticable changes in the first year or so. They want people to think it's business as usual.

[TimBuckTwo]

This is the end.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by Kopetkai

There's no way they do that long term. They are going to have to change things because the whole market is in flux. It would make sense for them not to rock the boat when they only owned Topps. But if they own both Topps and Panini they can get to work pushing the industry in the direction they want it to go. Probably no noticable changes in the first year or so. They want people to think it's business as usual.

Why not? It's worked in other industries. You can still control the direction of the industry and still allow the two companies to exist. And they already owned the next round of licenses. If Fanatics truly wanted to take control start running Topps how they wanted it, they would have. GM has done just fine owning 4 different car companies.

[AbraCalabro]

Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

This is the end.

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, just curious as to what makes you think that? Things could very well get even worse, but just want to get your take on it.

[RogerGodahell]

They should have bought UD instead.

[AbraCalabro]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

They should have bought UD instead.

I can get on board with this.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

They should have bought UD instead.

Except UD will never sell.

People need to let go of that pipe dream. I'm sure many have already thrown the kitchen sink at them. It would have happened by now.




Chrome > Prizm and all other Guangdong Panini clones.


This news is buns.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Except UD will never sell.

People need to let go of that pipe dream. I'm sure many have already thrown the kitchen sink at them. It would have happened by now.




Chrome > Prizm and all other Guangdong Panini clones.


This news is buns.

Until Fanatics finds that sweet spot number to offer to the NHL or their players association that Upper Deck determines they can't match. Just like they did to Topps, they were given the opportunity to match Fanatics' offer and couldn't/wouldn't. Guessing it might have been the offering equity in the company to the PA

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Until Fanatics finds that sweet spot number to offer to the NHL or their players association that Upper Deck determines they can't match. Just like they did to Topps, they were given the opportunity to match Fanatics' offer and couldn't/wouldn't. Guessing it might have been the offering equity in the company to the PA

Nobody outside of k-trece cares about violent figure skating tho.


The only thing the 'hobby' wants UD for is MJ and Bron autos. And even in the unlikely event someone does acquire UD, those two will not be included in the deal. They demand complete likeness control, which is the exact reason why they signed exclusives with UD, because they're the only ones that would ever offer the flexibility.

[coltsfan23]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

They should have bought UD instead.

I've heard Michael Jordan has a poison pill clause where his agreement with Upper Deck disappears if ownership changes hands.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Nobody outside of k-trece cares about violent figure skating tho.


The only thing the 'hobby' wants UD for is MJ and Bron autos. And even in the unlikely event someone does acquire UD, those two will not be included in the deal. They demand complete likeness control, which is the exact reason why they signed exclusives with UD, because they're the only ones that would ever offer the flexibility.

I don't know, those Young Guns seem to sell for some good money.

And Fanatics has thrown a ton of money around to get these licenses, I could see them agreeing to meet the demands of MJ or LeBron

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by whitmm

I don't know, those Young Guns seem to sell for some good money.

And Fanatics has thrown a ton of money around to get these licenses, I could see them agreeing to meet the demands of MJ or LeBron

Do you honestly think MJ and Bron are about dollar figures at this stage in their careers when it comes to memorabilia, or that they haven't been offered more?

At that level of success, life becomes a game of time optimization, not monetary gain. They do not want to spend 8 hours on sitdowns signing thousands of Hoops bass and Mosaic sticker dumps.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Do you honestly think MJ and Bron are about dollar figures at this stage in their careers when it comes to memorabilia, or that they haven't been offered more?

At that level of success, life becomes a game of time optimization, not monetary gain. They do not want to spend 8 hours on sitdowns signing thousands of Hoops bass and Mosaic sticker dumps.

Must have completely ignored the part where I said that Fanatics could easily decide to meet their demands.

And those two aren't the only reason Fanatics would be motivated to buy Upper Deck.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Must have completely ignored the part where I said that Fanatics could easily decide to meet their demands.

And those two aren't the only reason Fanatics would be motivated to buy Upper Deck.

Easily? Well that settles it. Should be a slam dunk.





The 'hobby' at large doesn't care about any aspect of an UD acquisition save for MJ and Bron autos. Hockey will remain hockey, so that seems like a moot point.

[mikejones]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Must have completely ignored the part where I said that Fanatics could easily decide to meet their demands.

And those two aren't the only reason Fanatics would be motivated to buy Upper Deck.

Pretty sure Jordan and upper deck aren't making any demands in order for fanatics to buy them. It's not for sale.

[AbraCalabro]

Originally Posted by coltsfan23

I've heard Michael Jordan has a poison pill clause where his agreement with Upper Deck disappears if ownership changes hands.

Never heard that, but that's interesting. I wonder if it has always been that way.

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Do you honestly think MJ and Bron are about dollar figures at this stage in their careers when it comes to memorabilia, or that they haven't been offered more?

At that level of success, life becomes a game of time optimization, not monetary gain. They do not want to spend 8 hours on sitdowns signing thousands of Hoops bass and Mosaic sticker dumps.

Would be hilarious if they did sign a ton more though. Just so I could see the high end squirm over value and the ensuing damage control.