One and One Vs National Treasures

Hobbyboxer · 03-31-2023, 02:04 PM

Do you think One and One has a shot of taking over National treasures in high end? National treasures has been around a lot longer, but other than Logomen and true RPA’s the cards suck and don’t have much value. The Base cards and inserts in One and One are a lot more fun to collect. What say the brain pool?

Do you think RPAs from One and One will ever hold the distinction of a National Treasures RPA?

eastbayak · 03-31-2023, 02:17 PM

I love One & One but it'll always be NT.

That doesn't mean One & One cards aren't nice but NT will remain GOAT.

90skid · 03-31-2023, 02:30 PM

They will not.

tjforce · 03-31-2023, 02:43 PM

I don't even see how you compare these two.

One and One has great base cards and parallels, NT is all about the RPA and Logomen.

How would a base rookie take over the hobby's flagship RPA?

Hobbyboxer · 03-31-2023, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

I don't even see how you compare these two.

One and One has great base cards and parallels, NT is all about the RPA and Logomen.

How would a base rookie take over the hobby's flagship RPA?

One and One has similar RPA’s. Including true vertical RPAs. They just don’t have Logomen. They have laundry tags, which.. 👎🏻

drobfan8 · 03-31-2023, 03:24 PM

The NT RPA is going to be hard to top.

One and One is a nicer product overall though.

Ra3 · 03-31-2023, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

The NT RPA is going to be hard to top.

One and One is a nicer product overall though.

I agree with this…I don’t love NT and it’s terrible value for the price. one and one is probably a lot better from a value standpoint but it would need some sort of chase RC or insert to compete with NT rpa’s.

tjforce · 03-31-2023, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hobbyboxer

One and One has similar RPA’s. Including true vertical RPAs. They just don’t have Logomen. They have laundry tags, which.. 👎🏻

Not similar in the fact that they are inserts and not rookie cards that are part of the main set.

I've actually been able to find 3 RPA insert sets. Not at all the same.

hermanotarjeta · 03-31-2023, 03:58 PM

No, the one and one rpa patch windows are too small and nobody likes multiple patch windows.

imbluestreak23 · 03-31-2023, 04:04 PM

I always thought NT and Flawless were too vanilla.

Like that One and One introduces a dash of Ebony to mix things up

regularp · 03-31-2023, 04:13 PM

I love One & One but RPAs have been the standard for two decades. Tough to see that changing and I say that as someone with a few One & One Golds.

cardsin47 · 03-31-2023, 04:55 PM

NT is the Bees Knees!

tjforce · 03-31-2023, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by regularp

I love One & One but RPAs have been the standard for two decades. Tough to see that changing and I say that as someone with a few One & One Golds.

A more relevant discussion would be where One and One Golds and Blacks rank compared to Prizm/Select/Optic/Mosaic/All the other Golds/10 (or 1/1s).

It may very well be slotted behind Prizm and in from of Optic, and definitely above Select and Mosaic for me.

I have one of my PC and it's probably my second favorite card of his behind the Prizm Nebula.

mindcycle · 03-31-2023, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hobbyboxer

Do you think RPAsfrom One and One will ever hold the distinction of a National Treasures RPA?

regularp · 04-01-2023, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

A more relevant discussion would be where One and One Golds and Blacks rank compared to Prizm/Select/Optic/Mosaic/All the other Golds/10 (or 1/1s).

It may very well be slotted behind Prizm and in from of Optic, and definitely above Select and Mosaic for me.

I have one of my PC and it's probably my second favorite card of his behind the Prizm Nebula.

Yeah, that's the better discussion. It would probably take a big "influencer" to push O&O above Prizm Golds/Blacks just because of the legacy factor.

The design of O&O is much better since it came out though.

Nomad · 04-01-2023, 03:54 AM

the one last acceptable pump on BO. I'm all in. O & O the new Prizm and NT combined.

NBAicons · 04-01-2023, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nomad

the one last acceptable pump on BO. I'm all in. O & O the new Prizm and NT combined.

This ^^^

What a joke. You seldom even hear collectors talking about One and One. Most of these brands will fall out of the collector consciousness over time. The only ones sure to be remembered are Prizm, NT, Flawless ——— then maybe a few others like Select and Immac. But one and one? No and no.

rifleman69 · 04-01-2023, 08:37 AM

Hell no.

tjforce · 04-01-2023, 11:28 AM

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This ^^^

What a joke. You seldom even hear collectors talking about One and One. Most of these brands will fall out of the collector consciousness over time. The only ones sure to be remembered are Prizm, NT, Flawless ——— then maybe a few others like Select and Immac. But one and one? No and no.

I actually know a few big time collectors (not investors) who collect the One and One Base/Gold/Black, including myself.

The inserts? Not so much.

tjforce · 04-01-2023, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by regularp

Yeah, that's the better discussion. It would probably take a big "influencer" to push O&O above Prizm Golds/Blacks just because of the legacy factor.

The design of O&O is much better since it came out though.

Even then, it would just be a quick pump and dump.

I do feel that the base (and it's parallels) will be collectable the way that 00's Exquisite base is, the way that Galactics are, the way that Gala base are.

Something doesn't have to be the #1 chase of the generation to still be collectable (think PMGs vs other great 90s cards like Rubies, Credentials, etc.)

HeyRelaxGuy · 04-01-2023, 01:28 PM

This thread should've been titled EXQUISITE vs. NT !!! That's a much better match-up!

tjforce · 04-01-2023, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HeyRelaxGuy

This thread should've been titled EXQUISITE vs. NT !!! That's a much better match-up!

I think that's pretty much been established.

NT has carried the torch where Exquisite left off.

You can't have a discussion of whether you'd like to have a LeBron/Giannis/Luka/Zion Exquisite or NT because there is no choice.

Archangel1775 · 04-01-2023, 02:33 PM

Not a chance

bmf · 04-01-2023, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HeyRelaxGuy

This thread should've been titled EXQUISITE vs. NT !!! That's a much better match-up!

That would be just as lopsided. NT is way better than one and one but NOTHING comes close to Exquisite.

tjforce · 04-01-2023, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bmf

That would be just as lopsided. NT is way better than one and one but NOTHING comes close to Exquisite.

What are Curry and Giannis Exquisites going for these days compared to their NT's?

View Poll Results: National Treasures vs One and One
National Treasures	40	72.73%
One and One	15	27.27%
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03-31-2023, 02:43 PM	#4
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03-31-2023, 03:24 PM	#6
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03-31-2023, 02:04 PM	#1
Hobbyboxer Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Washington and Arizona Posts: 242 hobby_boxer Hobbyboxer	One and One Vs National Treasures Do you think One and One has a shot of taking over National treasures in high end? National treasures has been around a lot longer, but other than Logomen and true RPA’s the cards suck and don’t have much value. The Base cards and inserts in One and One are a lot more fun to collect. What say the brain pool? Do you think RPAs from One and One will ever hold the distinction of a National Treasures RPA?

03-31-2023, 02:17 PM	#2
eastbayak Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 15,485 eastbayak	I love One & One but it'll always be NT. That doesn't mean One & One cards aren't nice but NT will remain GOAT.

03-31-2023, 02:30 PM	#3
90skid Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,786	They will not.

03-31-2023, 03:58 PM	#9
hermanotarjeta Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 20,443	No, the one and one rpa patch windows are too small and nobody likes multiple patch windows.

03-31-2023, 04:13 PM	#11
regularp Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,118	I love One & One but RPAs have been the standard for two decades. Tough to see that changing and I say that as someone with a few One & One Golds.

04-01-2023, 03:54 AM	#16
Nomad Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 7,942	the one last acceptable pump on BO. I'm all in. O & O the new Prizm and NT combined.

04-01-2023, 08:37 AM	#18
rifleman69 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Space Mountain Posts: 3,534	Hell no.

04-01-2023, 01:28 PM	#21
HeyRelaxGuy Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: Toronto Posts: 670	This thread should've been titled EXQUISITE vs. NT !!! That's a much better match-up!

04-01-2023, 02:33 PM	#23
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,617	Not a chance __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*