PSA Certifying Trimmed Cards Again

SpecOpsVet · 06-28-2023, 08:50 PM

I’ll make this brief. Sold a 2018 Topps Update #285 Shohei Ohtani Independence Day /76 in April raw. Auction ended at $785. It had some light edging. The Light hits in listing pic but looked like grade 7/8. I set up notification for that card to see what they sell for and when they get listed. I see mine listed again last week (#64/76) as a PSA grade 9 and lost my mind. I registered for the forum to post about it but the next day it got pulled. The card has been trimmed along the right hand edge and the top edge. My only hope was someone caught it. But my biggest aggravation is PSA certifying a trimmed card as a 9. It’s undersize now I measured it before I sold it even tho I was original owner. Well my deceased uncle was. PSA is always going to get away with grading and certifying trimmed cards it seems.
Here’s the links:
Original.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/23496361901...mis&media=COPY
New listing.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/27591286354...mis&media=COPY

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shrevecity · 06-28-2023, 08:54 PM

Nothing new here. There are literally hundreds or thousands of trimmed cards in all the major companies cases

SpecOpsVet · 06-28-2023, 10:36 PM

I don’t see why ppl keep playing the game especially with it clearly being undersize now. Maybe ppl need to just get burned one good time. At any rate I wouldn’t recommend purchasing 64/76 for this particular Independence Day card.

3124508 on COMC · 06-29-2023, 04:26 PM

will you PM me you you sold the untrimmed card to? (Name, location, eBay ID)

Odds are that it’s the trimmer.

auburn35 · 06-30-2023, 12:13 AM

Same seller that was moving the trimmed pitching version early in the year. Maybe the same consignor (trimmer)?

3124508 on COMC · 06-30-2023, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by auburn35

Same seller that was moving the trimmed pitching version early in the year. Maybe the same consignor (trimmer)?

Almost certainly. I suspect many of that consigners high end graded items are from a single source.

DragonWagon · 07-01-2023, 12:16 PM

Added to the Altered Card Database
Altered 2018 Shohei Ohtani US285 Topps Update Independence Day 64/76 PSA 9 cert# 75598538

SpecOpsVet · 07-01-2023, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Almost certainly. I suspect many of that consigners high end graded items are from a single source.

Standby I’ll PM you

SpecOpsVet · 07-01-2023, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonWagon

Added to the Altered Card Database
Altered 2018 Shohei Ohtani US285 Topps Update Independence Day 64/76 PSA 9 cert# 75598538

So they did trim the top too. Thought so.

corndog · 07-01-2023, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SpecOpsVet

So they did trim the top too. Thought so.

Left edge too.

auburn35 · 07-01-2023, 04:08 PM

Video on this copy.

3124508 on COMC · 07-01-2023, 05:05 PM

Confirmed: Card was purchased by known trimmers Richard Rosino, Greg Rosino, and/or Shaun Modisette.

They are best known from this thread: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1516697

Buyer beware of quickconsignment802, who is moving lots of cards from these trimmers.

The image below is from January 2023.

Jjbecker · 07-01-2023, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Confirmed: Card was purchased by known trimmers Richard Rosino, Greg Rosino, and/or Shaun Modisette.

They are best known from this thread: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1516697

Buyer beware of quickconsignment802, who is moving lots of cards from these trimmers.

The image below is from January 2023.

I wa the buyer of the first Ohtani Independence Day (PSA 10 that sold for $11.1k), as shown in the video above. Happy to see that perhaps the trimmers have been identified.

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auburn35 · 07-01-2023, 05:36 PM

Very interesting.

SpecOpsVet · 07-01-2023, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by corndog

Left edge too.

Oh wow, 3/4 sides😱. My thing is that card is undersize now. Should be easy catch for PSA. Unless they don’t want to….

3124508 on COMC · 07-01-2023, 08:11 PM

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1561070

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Known trimmers Richard Rosino, Greg Rosino, and Shaun Modisette AKA sleepyjoandtheho on eBay AKA kongscards53 on Instagam AKA neweracards on eBay and formerly known as kong53 on eBay have been and continue to sell numerous trimmed cards on consignment via quickconsignment802 on eBay.

They have been trimming cards for years, particularly Panini Contenders and Panini Next Day autographs. They are best known for trimming copious 2021 Contenders Football autographs. See here for additional info: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1516697

Recently, it has been identified that they have moved their trimmed card sales over to quickconsignment802 on eBay. This includes the sale of many trimmed Topps baseball flagship rookie parallels. See here for additional info: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1560846

This also includes the sale of trimmed soccer cards such as the Haaland Revolution Auto identified below. It was sold raw and untrimmed to Greg Rosino AKA eBay ID sleepyjoandtheho on April 7, 2023 and resold trimmed and graded a PSA 9 by quickconsignment802 on June 22, 2023.

Buyer beware.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145017083193
https://www.ebay.com/usr/sleepyjoandtheho
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275903222132

Cardboard Dawg · 07-01-2023, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1561070

Thanks for all that you do. Really on top of your stuff.

3124508 on COMC · 07-02-2023, 06:15 AM

Here's a second trimmed Haaland Revolution auto from the same trimmer(s) that was also sold via quickconsignment802.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234962475689
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275903153277

3124508 on COMC · 07-02-2023, 06:41 AM

Here's a third trimmed Haaland Revolution auto from the same trimmer(s) that was also sold via quickconsignment802.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266213042983
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275865062518

SpecOpsVet · 07-11-2023, 11:58 AM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/35490550275...mis&media=COPY

It’s listed again…

mjohnatgt · 07-11-2023, 08:51 PM

Well, this gives Nat a chance to buy it and then sell it through Goldin. Profit!

Bosoxfan5990 · 07-11-2023, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecOpsVet

https://www.ebay.com/itm/35490550275...mis&media=COPY

It’s listed again…

Any surprise it's ALT listing it now?

SpecOpsVet · 07-12-2023, 07:23 AM

How do we get PSA to decertify this card?

SpecOpsVet · 07-12-2023, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Any surprise it's ALT listing it now?

Do they sell lot of trimmed stuff?

Bosoxfan5990 · 07-12-2023, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecOpsVet

Do they sell lot of trimmed stuff?

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...ight=%22alt%22

06-28-2023, 08:50 PM	#1
SpecOpsVet Member Join Date: Jun 2023 Posts: 9	PSA Certifying Trimmed Cards Again I’ll make this brief. Sold a 2018 Topps Update #285 Shohei Ohtani Independence Day /76 in April raw. Auction ended at $785. It had some light edging. The Light hits in listing pic but looked like grade 7/8. I set up notification for that card to see what they sell for and when they get listed. I see mine listed again last week (#64/76) as a PSA grade 9 and lost my mind. I registered for the forum to post about it but the next day it got pulled. The card has been trimmed along the right hand edge and the top edge. My only hope was someone caught it. But my biggest aggravation is PSA certifying a trimmed card as a 9. It’s undersize now I measured it before I sold it even tho I was original owner. Well my deceased uncle was. PSA is always going to get away with grading and certifying trimmed cards it seems. Here’s the links: Original. https://www.ebay.com/itm/23496361901...mis&media=COPY New listing. https://www.ebay.com/itm/27591286354...mis&media=COPY Pics:

06-29-2023, 04:26 PM	#4
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,370	will you PM me you you sold the untrimmed card to? (Name, location, eBay ID) Odds are that it’s the trimmer. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

06-30-2023, 12:13 AM	#5
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,308	Same seller that was moving the trimmed pitching version early in the year. Maybe the same consignor (trimmer)? __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

07-01-2023, 04:08 PM	#11
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,308	Video on this copy. __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

07-01-2023, 05:05 PM	#12
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,370	Confirmed: Card was purchased by known trimmers Richard Rosino, Greg Rosino, and/or Shaun Modisette. They are best known from this thread: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1516697 Buyer beware of quickconsignment802, who is moving lots of cards from these trimmers. The image below is from January 2023. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

06-28-2023, 08:54 PM	#2
shrevecity Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 28,059	Nothing new here. There are literally hundreds or thousands of trimmed cards in all the major companies cases

06-28-2023, 10:36 PM	#3
SpecOpsVet Member Join Date: Jun 2023 Posts: 9	I don’t see why ppl keep playing the game especially with it clearly being undersize now. Maybe ppl need to just get burned one good time. At any rate I wouldn’t recommend purchasing 64/76 for this particular Independence Day card.

07-01-2023, 12:16 PM	#7
DragonWagon Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 904	Added to the Altered Card Database Altered 2018 Shohei Ohtani US285 Topps Update Independence Day 64/76 PSA 9 cert# 75598538

07-01-2023, 05:36 PM	#14
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,308	Very interesting. __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

07-02-2023, 06:15 AM	#18
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,370	Here's a second trimmed Haaland Revolution auto from the same trimmer(s) that was also sold via quickconsignment802. https://www.ebay.com/itm/234962475689 https://www.ebay.com/itm/275903153277 __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

07-02-2023, 06:41 AM	#19
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,370	Here's a third trimmed Haaland Revolution auto from the same trimmer(s) that was also sold via quickconsignment802. https://www.ebay.com/itm/266213042983 https://www.ebay.com/itm/275865062518 __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

07-11-2023, 11:58 AM	#20
SpecOpsVet Member Join Date: Jun 2023 Posts: 9	https://www.ebay.com/itm/35490550275...mis&media=COPY It’s listed again…

07-11-2023, 08:51 PM	#21
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,574 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	Well, this gives Nat a chance to buy it and then sell it through Goldin. Profit!

07-12-2023, 07:23 AM	#23
SpecOpsVet Member Join Date: Jun 2023 Posts: 9	How do we get PSA to decertify this card?