Are autos overrated?

Rooftop · 09-28-2023, 10:36 PM

Why pay a premium for some ink?

Never understood it..

jcmel323 · 09-28-2023, 10:43 PM

sticker autos are overrated

Biohazarddfl · 09-28-2023, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooftop

Why pay a premium for some ink?

Never understood it..

No. Creates a personal connection to the card. Sticker autos are overrated. Non rc cards are mostly overrated. But give me a Stan Musial Real One or Century legends epic over just about any of his cards made after 1953. Will Trout or griffey or modern type guys who keep signing year after year be overrated? Maybe? But so will every other card they have too then, so in relation, no they won't be overrated.

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YouTheManNick · 09-28-2023, 10:51 PM

I've never been a fan of autos in general.

But. I like a nice auto card if it's well-designed, on card and has a good signature.

Skipscards · 09-28-2023, 10:57 PM

Depends on the auto.

CCPdro · 09-28-2023, 10:58 PM

They’re easy to sell

Nhi2017 · 09-28-2023, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Depends on the auto.

Yeah. That's nice.

PuddleMonkey · 09-28-2023, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooftop

Why pay a premium for some ink?

Never understood it..

Enemies, you and I.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 09-28-2023, 11:23 PM

No, they are not overrated. Collect what you like.

hermanotarjeta · 09-28-2023, 11:31 PM

On-card autographs provide good evidence that the athlete touched the same card you own, it provides a more personal connection to the athlete.

Yes, they are worth the premium.

lemmer · 09-29-2023, 02:46 AM

Not to me. i think it’s pretty cool to have a hard signed auto of a player I like.

rnocards · 09-29-2023, 02:48 AM

IP are not overated, especially IP autos of Hall of Famers.

Now, the facsimile autos, those I don't really care for.

awz50 · 09-29-2023, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooftop

Why pay a premium for some ink?

Never understood it..

The ink on my postcards, cards, 8x10s and note cards connect me to 100s years of history. So no I don't think they are over-rated

Chicosbailbonds · 09-29-2023, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcmel323

sticker autos are overrated

This.

Raleigh504 · 09-29-2023, 04:48 AM

On card or IP autos are pretty cool.

I almost like IP autos more since its a nice addition to the card that is from the athlete on it. Plus it gives it a very unique feature that another one may not have (different pen color, auto location, additions to the actual auto, quotes, personalized, etc).

I like how some guys are now doing that with on-card autos too, adding a message and putting more time into it vs scribbling two letters as their signature.

Drew3000 · 09-29-2023, 04:49 AM

Never been an autograph collector myself but I appreciate those that do, they’re cool to see

fulltritty · 09-29-2023, 05:15 AM

Obviously, my IP autos mean much more to me than autograph cards I pull from a box of cards or purchase as singles.

Twalk1975 · 09-29-2023, 05:16 AM

They're not really my PC thing, but I do own a few in the instances where there is an auto version of a card that I really like.. They would probably mean more to me if I collected the autos myself, but that's difficult because anytime I've actually run into an athlete I've never had a card on me, and haven't been willing to interrupt them having dinner or whatever to sign something.

KhalDrogo · 09-29-2023, 05:42 AM

Generally speaking, yes.

Guys like Griffey, Trout, Acuna, and Soto will have 100k+ pack issued autos by time they are dead.

chris_ac · 09-29-2023, 06:11 AM

Funny topic imho. I've had conversations with my father and he asks from time to time why non-auto/patch etc like SPs and chase inserts are worth so much without a sig. I can convince him in regards to RC designation but unless it's a fairly unique card in design, he would think a sig on it or highly coveted patch would be preferred.

I've pointed out the change in memorabilia swatches and where they come from and even the faked patch issues. He agrees on the sticker autos being eye sores many times. I try to only buy sticker sigs at this point if the card also has a patch as well.

And as mentioned above, they generally are easier to resell if need be. Parallels can be an enigma unless jersey #'d or really low like < /10. Inserts without s/n better be visually low on population as in when you go to sell you someone can only find 1 other. Case hits have been abused atrociously across all sports imho.

As for the true heart of the OP, as in the signature itself applies a premium over the counterpart of the same card? Like several cards have the non-auto and the auto version/parallels. Depends a ton on the card design and if the card is hard-signed. If the design is fairly accepted as cool then the non-auto may very well be highly coveted. But a hard-signed copy where the sig has good spot on the design, then it will absolutely outsell the non 10 out of 10 times imho.

TheGZA · 09-29-2023, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Depends on the auto.

This is incredible. What's the story behind it?

rfgilles · 09-29-2023, 07:14 AM

I personally don't do autos. I feel like it is vandalization of the card.

TheGZA · 09-29-2023, 07:15 AM

I'm a big fan of autos, even stickers. Something fun about pulling one, even if it's a chump

NotGoSportsBall · 09-29-2023, 07:19 AM

Autographs in general are weird. If I met someone famous that I admired, the last thing I would do is whip out a cocktail napkin and have them scribble their name on it. Having pack-issued autos on cards is even less attractive to me because you weren’t even the one to get it in person. For cards, give me a SSP numbered parallel any day.

pewe · 09-29-2023, 07:25 AM

I like them, but not at the current premium

I’m willing to pay maybe 2x for one…

…they seem to be at 4x or more now…

…given they aren’t rare I’m passing (mostly) for now, and will wait for the eventual downward revision in pricing

…plus it’s made collecting classic parallels much easier as the “investor” crowd seems too focused on autos

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09-28-2023, 10:36 PM	#1
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09-28-2023, 10:51 PM	#4
YouTheManNick Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2,628 trapjaw73 YTMN	I've never been a fan of autos in general. But. I like a nice auto card if it's well-designed, on card and has a good signature. __________________ They're = they are. Their = possession. There = "I went there." Two = 2. Too = "Me too." To = "He went to the card show." Your = "your cards." You're = "you're welcome."

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Skipscards Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: In Tribute To The Great Ryno Posts: 30,352 jlankf2 jmp4	Depends on the auto. __________________ Go Royals!! #RoyalsIn2015 <---It Happened!! #TEAMZinck Sometimes it is astounding that we are able to persist in a world so full of morons.

09-29-2023, 02:46 AM	#11
lemmer Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 731	Not to me. i think it’s pretty cool to have a hard signed auto of a player I like. __________________ Collecting sf giants flagship golds / sf giants heritage chrome refractors / minor league sets All offers are good for 24 hours. Trading @ https://bit.ly/jon-trade-hub

09-29-2023, 04:48 AM	#15
Raleigh504 Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: NC Posts: 2,691 ig_bljhsports	On card or IP autos are pretty cool. I almost like IP autos more since its a nice addition to the card that is from the athlete on it. Plus it gives it a very unique feature that another one may not have (different pen color, auto location, additions to the actual auto, quotes, personalized, etc). I like how some guys are now doing that with on-card autos too, adding a message and putting more time into it vs scribbling two letters as their signature. __________________ https://myslabs.to/brasm_sports5 https://www.ebay.com/str/jrbuddysportsandmore

09-28-2023, 10:43 PM	#2
jcmel323 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,950	sticker autos are overrated

09-28-2023, 10:58 PM	#6
CCPdro Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Southern Carolina Posts: 106 sentimentalhogwash	They’re easy to sell

09-28-2023, 11:23 PM	#9
MiamiMarlinsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 14,129	No, they are not overrated. Collect what you like.

09-28-2023, 11:31 PM	#10
hermanotarjeta Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 23,315	On-card autographs provide good evidence that the athlete touched the same card you own, it provides a more personal connection to the athlete. Yes, they are worth the premium.

09-29-2023, 02:48 AM	#12
rnocards Member Join Date: Sep 2023 Posts: 868	IP are not overated, especially IP autos of Hall of Famers. Now, the facsimile autos, those I don't really care for.

09-29-2023, 04:49 AM	#16
Drew3000 Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Kentucky Posts: 867	Never been an autograph collector myself but I appreciate those that do, they’re cool to see __________________ Looking for: 2010 Joey Votto Topps Black /59

09-29-2023, 05:15 AM	#17
fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 79,844	Obviously, my IP autos mean much more to me than autograph cards I pull from a box of cards or purchase as singles.

09-29-2023, 05:16 AM	#18
Twalk1975 Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,136	They're not really my PC thing, but I do own a few in the instances where there is an auto version of a card that I really like.. They would probably mean more to me if I collected the autos myself, but that's difficult because anytime I've actually run into an athlete I've never had a card on me, and haven't been willing to interrupt them having dinner or whatever to sign something.

09-29-2023, 05:42 AM	#19
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,502	Generally speaking, yes. Guys like Griffey, Trout, Acuna, and Soto will have 100k+ pack issued autos by time they are dead. __________________ I love PSA!

09-29-2023, 06:11 AM	#20
chris_ac Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,289	Funny topic imho. I've had conversations with my father and he asks from time to time why non-auto/patch etc like SPs and chase inserts are worth so much without a sig. I can convince him in regards to RC designation but unless it's a fairly unique card in design, he would think a sig on it or highly coveted patch would be preferred. I've pointed out the change in memorabilia swatches and where they come from and even the faked patch issues. He agrees on the sticker autos being eye sores many times. I try to only buy sticker sigs at this point if the card also has a patch as well. And as mentioned above, they generally are easier to resell if need be. Parallels can be an enigma unless jersey #'d or really low like < /10. Inserts without s/n better be visually low on population as in when you go to sell you someone can only find 1 other. Case hits have been abused atrociously across all sports imho. As for the true heart of the OP, as in the signature itself applies a premium over the counterpart of the same card? Like several cards have the non-auto and the auto version/parallels. Depends a ton on the card design and if the card is hard-signed. If the design is fairly accepted as cool then the non-auto may very well be highly coveted. But a hard-signed copy where the sig has good spot on the design, then it will absolutely outsell the non 10 out of 10 times imho. __________________ PC (NFS/NFT): Anze Kopitar/Justin Jefferson/Victor Wembanyama IG: playerclector

09-29-2023, 07:14 AM	#22
rfgilles Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 4,385	I personally don't do autos. I feel like it is vandalization of the card. __________________ BO Resident TAG Grading shill

09-29-2023, 07:15 AM	#23
TheGZA Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 1,172	I'm a big fan of autos, even stickers. Something fun about pulling one, even if it's a chump

09-29-2023, 07:19 AM	#24
NotGoSportsBall Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 1,205	Autographs in general are weird. If I met someone famous that I admired, the last thing I would do is whip out a cocktail napkin and have them scribble their name on it. Having pack-issued autos on cards is even less attractive to me because you weren’t even the one to get it in person. For cards, give me a SSP numbered parallel any day.

09-29-2023, 07:25 AM	#25
pewe Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 26,646	I like them, but not at the current premium I’m willing to pay maybe 2x for one… …they seem to be at 4x or more now… …given they aren’t rare I’m passing (mostly) for now, and will wait for the eventual downward revision in pricing …plus it’s made collecting classic parallels much easier as the “investor” crowd seems too focused on autos Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk