How special can this Scoot XRC eventually be?

[dream34]

There is going to be a mega onslaught of 2023-24 RC Logo cards of Wembanyama & Co - All of them will start with the PSA Label reading: "2023 Panini xxxx"

Meanwhile, this is an actual NBA Trading Card (not G-League, OTE, College, McDonalds, etc) with a "2021 Panini xxx" PSA Label. I think this is the first time something like this has ever happened for an NBA player.

Before anyone asks, Yes I have a lot of them. Of course I do, would be crazy not to. Still, I think it has a chance to be his best card and if he's special a pretty landmark NBA card.

Any thoughts? Or am I looking too deep into this one?

[boxbuster7]

I say no. print run is too high to ever be desirable.

[Braswell10]

No disrespect, but nobody takes panini instant cards seriously.

[KhalDrogo]

His best card? Come on man. You are way too knowledgeable to actually believe that.

[mc1]

[asujbl]

No one cares about these instant cards

That’s across the board

Literally no one

[dream34]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

I say no. print run is too high to ever be desirable.

Total Banchero #'d Prizm #249 Made: 2158
Total Cade Cunningham NT RC Cards Made: 1843
Total Made of this Scoot XRC: 960 (/855 Base, /99 Target Red, /5 Versicolor, /1 Black)

(Scoot will probably have the same amount as these guys if not more in these sets also)
I think under 1k print run for his 1st NBA card shouldn't be that bad in the long run

Originally Posted by Braswell10

No disrespect, but nobody takes panini instant cards seriously.

Originally Posted by asujbl

No one cares about these instant cards

That’s across the board

Literally no one

Yup, this will definitely be a thing. Still, there's a first for everything and there are some massively valuable & significant Instant cards that exist if anyone does any research. This one I think will have a chance to join them if he is special.

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

His best card? Come on man. You are way too knowledgeable to actually believe that.

Thanks Khal, appreciate the respect You remember the other card I called out a few years ago that turned out pretty well? This card reminds me of that one. I think when it was around 150-200 I said something similar and had pretty similar responses at the time also. This is not an Acuna Sapphire by any means, but it's just as unique/unprecedented. And fwiw, I actually do believe in him and the card as much.

[dream34]

Also, I think the back is pretty cool where you get to see the proper copyright with the "2021-22 Panini" & NBA Logo again a few times:

[duron]

No Clorox joke yet? I thought Chatgpt was a BO plugin at this point.

[Braswell10]

Originally Posted by dream34

Total Banchero #'d Prizm #249 Made: 2158
Total Cade Cunningham NT RC Cards Made: 1843
Total Made of this Scoot XRC: 960 (/855 Base, /99 Target Red, /5 Versicolor, /1 Black)

(Scoot will probably have the same amount as these guys if not more in these sets also)
I think under 1k print run for his 1st NBA card shouldn't be that bad in the long run





Yup, this will definitely be a thing. Still, there's a first for everything and there are some massively valuable & significant Instant cards that exist if anyone does any research. This one I think will have a chance to join them if he is special.



Thanks Khal, appreciate the respect You remember the other card I called out a few years ago that turned out pretty well? This card reminds me of that one. I think when it was around 150-200 I said something similar and had pretty similar responses at the time also. This is not an Acuna Sapphire by any means, but it's just as unique/unprecedented. And fwiw, I actually do believe in him and the card as much.

Just because YOU think it will be valuable doesn’t mean everyone else does. I mean you own the card, so of course you want it to be valuable.

It’s panini instant, how those cards are worth more than $0 is a mystery to me. He will have much better cards released - people will be using this card for light if their power ever goes out.

[RAV2773]

Yeah it's Panini Instant, it's horizontal and it's not in an NBA uniform. 3 strikes and you're out. I can't see it being more desirable than his rc logo cards that will be coming out. No matter what the year says or manufactured scarcity. I see it being just a pre-rookie card that not many will care about once all his actual rookie cards come out.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by dream34

Total Banchero #'d Prizm #249 Made: 2158
Total Cade Cunningham NT RC Cards Made: 1843
Total Made of this Scoot XRC: 960 (/855 Base, /99 Target Red, /5 Versicolor, /1 Black)

(Scoot will probably have the same amount as these guys if not more in these sets also)
I think under 1k print run for his 1st NBA card shouldn't be that bad in the long run





Yup, this will definitely be a thing. Still, there's a first for everything and there are some massively valuable & significant Instant cards that exist if anyone does any research. This one I think will have a chance to join them if he is special.



Thanks Khal, appreciate the respect You remember the other card I called out a few years ago that turned out pretty well? This card reminds me of that one. I think when it was around 150-200 I said something similar and had pretty similar responses at the time also. This is not an Acuna Sapphire by any means, but it's just as unique/unprecedented. And fwiw, I actually do believe in him and the card as much.

You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried. You could try… but you would not be successful

Literally no one will ever care about this card except for you

Literally. That’s the appropriate word

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by RAV2773

Yeah it's Panini Instant, it's horizontal and it's not in an NBA uniform. 3 strikes and you're out. I can't see it being more desirable than his rc logo cards that will be coming out. No matter what the year says or manufactured scarcity. I see it being just a pre-rookie card that not many will care about once all his actual rookie cards come out.

We only have like 100+ years of backup for this post

[messier2]

Panini Instant cards are one step above garbage cards. Poor/cheap quality and high print runs = low value.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by messier2

Panini Instant cards are one step above garbage cards. Poor/cheap quality and high print runs = low value.

It might as well be a broder

[cms11]

Originally Posted by dream34

Yup, this will definitely be a thing. Still, there's a first for everything and there are some massively valuable & significant Instant cards that exist if anyone does any research. This one I think will have a chance to join them if he is special.

I think it's his Panini G-League #180 that is his best unsigned pre-NBA card.

I expect you'll make some money on his Instant cards, I just don't see them being highly valued.

[dream34]

Haha, gotcha all around to everyone who doesn't like Instant. Nobody likes Instant and I totally get why also. Not really an Instant is great thread, more just about this particular card.

So I take it that you all are saying that if there were a 1994 NBA Fleer Kobe XRC, 1996 NBA UD Vince Carter XRC, 1987 NBA Fleer David Robinson XRC, 2001 NBA Skybox Lebron XRC or 2010 NBA Panini Anthony Davis XRC all made in the same style the opinion would still be the same? Preference would be the RC Season card no matter the amount of sets released? Mass PR NBA RC Card Over the XRC NBA Card with 960 Total Made?

[al3xmac10]

That is a very nice looking card.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by dream34

Haha, gotcha all around to everyone who doesn't like Instant. Nobody likes Instant and I totally get why also. Not really an Instant is great thread, more just about this particular card.

So I take it that you all are saying that if there were a 1994 NBA Fleer Kobe XRC, 1996 NBA UD Vince Carter XRC, 1987 NBA Fleer David Robinson XRC, 2001 NBA Skybox Lebron XRC or 2010 NBA Panini Anthony Davis XRC all made in the same style the opinion would still be the same? Preference would be the RC Season card no matter the amount of sets released? Mass PR NBA RC Card Over the XRC NBA Card with 960 Total Made?

Dude

You act like you just joined yesterday

Stop being psychotic

You know no one cares about this stupid card

Is this Punk’d?

[codered]

Originally Posted by dream34

Haha, gotcha all around to everyone who doesn't like Instant. Nobody likes Instant and I totally get why also. Not really an Instant is great thread, more just about this particular card.

So I take it that you all are saying that if there were a 1994 NBA Fleer Kobe XRC, 1996 NBA UD Vince Carter XRC, 1987 NBA Fleer David Robinson XRC, 2001 NBA Skybox Lebron XRC or 2010 NBA Panini Anthony Davis XRC all made in the same style the opinion would still be the same? Preference would be the RC Season card no matter the amount of sets released? Mass PR NBA RC Card Over the XRC NBA Card with 960 Total Made?

Well it’s not 2001 and it’s not skybox but I don’t think either of these cards crack the top 5 (or even top 10) of lebrons most desirable rookies. Both are XRC’s and from sets a year before he was officially in the league. Cool cards but I don’t think they get extra love for being XRC’s from 2002 licensed sets


2002-03 Upper Deck Inspirations - [Base] #156 - 2003 Draft - LeBron James /499
Courtesy of COMC.com


2002-03 Topps Finest - [Base] #178 - 2003-04 Rookie - LeBron James
Courtesy of COMC.com

[rifleman69]

Break that out of the holder and use it as a coaster.

[JeffG1954]

Is this Friday the 13th, or April 1st?

[RetroZ]

Eh.... I see it a bit differently. It's a cool card. Will it ever be spectacularly valuable? Probably not. But if you bought them in bulk from Panini and can sell them for $15-20 ungraded and $75+ graded a PSA 10, you can't really go wrong. That's a better return than 99% of standard Panini NBA retail & hobby cases/boxes/packs. Cards like this are cool... way cooler than some NBA Hoops base cards that had millions printed. Talk about literal trash.

There are many examples of Topps Now and Panini Instant cards that aren't worthless. Some can be surprisingly valuable. But yes, most... probably not.

I certainly wouldn't bank on any "print on demand" card being "special", at least until the featured player has a distinguished GOAT/HOF career and collectors start being interested in their earliest cards. In other words... don't count on it.

[dream34]

Originally Posted by RetroZ

Eh.... I see it a bit differently. It's a cool card. Will it ever be spectacularly valuable? Probably not. But if you bought them in bulk from Panini and can sell them for $15-20 ungraded and $75+ graded a PSA 10, you can't really go wrong. That's a better return than 99% of standard Panini NBA retail & hobby cases/boxes/packs. Cards like this are cool... way cooler than some NBA Hoops base cards that had millions printed. Talk about literal trash.

There are many examples of Topps Now and Panini Instant cards that aren't worthless. Some can be surprisingly valuable. But yes, most... probably not.

I certainly wouldn't bank on any "print on demand" card being "special", at least until the featured player has a distinguished GOAT/HOF career and collectors start being interested in their earliest cards. In other words... don't count on it.

So these weren't actually available in their normal bundles for individual single card orders. You had to buy the whole Rising Stars Set to get 1 Scoot. I'm sure if they were available for individual order the Print run would have been much much higher.

[dream34]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Dude

You act like you just joined yesterday

Stop being psychotic

You know no one cares about this stupid card

Is this Punk’d?

Haha, maybe just don't prefer to post like you do? You do you, but I kinda like being a little more friendly (even if it is a message board) and like to help people figure things out (give good advice).

To put it in as simple terms as I can, I know my cards fairly well. I have a very strong feeling this will eventually be up there with his best cards and will always have a chance to be the best way to play Scoot cards. If anyone believes in Scoot long term and doesn't want to get caught in the mega wave that is coming, this is probably the way to go. Fits the supply/demand model as well as a modern card can.