Corey Seager: HOF bound?

oldgoldy97 · 11-02-2023, 08:23 AM

Any chance he ends up in the hall as a player (not a visitor)? Two WS MVPs, room for more with that team and manager, decent stats and counting.

itsbaytime · 11-02-2023, 08:26 AM

170 HRs and 32 War going into his age 30 season. I am sure he has a shot that is much greater than Schwarber. Injuries will probably dictate it for him.

fulltritty · 11-02-2023, 08:27 AM

Add in ROY and 2 time All Star so far to his current accolades. He looks good with batting average, 32 WAR, and good doubles hitter. I'm going to say probably yes if he keeps doing what he's doing.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 11-02-2023, 08:28 AM

What does his WAR say? Apparently that’s the only stat we’re allowed to consider these days.

Putting that aside, I think if he can play at a top level into his late 30’s he’ll have a shot.

oldgoldy97 · 11-02-2023, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

You forgot the poll.

Add in ROY and 2 time All Star so far to his current accolades. He looks good with batting average, 32 WAR, and good doubles hitter. I'm going to say probably yes if he keeps doing what he's doing.

Boo · 11-02-2023, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

You forgot the poll.

Add in ROY and 2 time All Star so far to his current accolades. He looks good with batting average, 32 WAR, and good doubles hitter. I'm going to say probably yes if he keeps doing what he's doing.

oldgoldy97 · 11-02-2023, 08:29 AM

Too quick for the edit!

I’m like Boo that way.

fulltritty · 11-02-2023, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Too quick for the edit!

I’m like Boo that way.

Well, there was no poll up when I started the post.

Biohazarddfl · 11-02-2023, 08:34 AM

If you asked me to gamble on it, I'd be betting that he will. 2 WS MVP is a much bigger deal than the WAR crowd will ever admit. He also has a huge frame and I expect him to age well. He really just has to get to 60 WAR with the WS heroics.

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bankdawg · 11-02-2023, 08:44 AM

5 more years like the previous and he's in. If he plays until hes 40 and gets to 400 HRs he is first ballot.

whitmm · 11-02-2023, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

If you asked me to gamble on it, I'd be betting that he will. 2 WS MVP is a much bigger deal than the WAR crowd will ever admit. He also has a huge frame and I expect him to age well. He really just has to get to 60 WAR with the WS heroics.

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People are trying to say Kyle Schwarber is a HOF worthy because of his postseason numbers. Maybe it's not the WAR crowd that is delusional with their thinking.

The WS MVPs are nice, but you still have to have the regular season numbers. Sorry, but 11 games (the 2 WS MVPs) is not enough to get you in.

msink28 · 11-02-2023, 08:53 AM

Yeah, he'll be inducted barring injury.

smanzari · 11-02-2023, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by whitmm

People are trying to say Kyle Schwarber is a HOF worthy because of his postseason numbers. Maybe it's not the WAR crowd that is delusional with their thinking.

The WS MVPs are nice, but you still have to have the regular season numbers. Sorry, but 11 games (the 2 WS MVPs) is not enough to get you in.

IDK man, there's literally a Dude in it for basically one hit. I mean Maz was good, but without that Game 7 HR he'd be like Ted K, Billy Pierce, etc. sitting in the "Hall of Very Good" and not the "Hall of Fame"

BigSlim16 · 11-02-2023, 08:53 AM

Hall of Very Good for sure. I think there's too much recency bias in this thread IMHO. He's had one great year and a couple good years, but the rest of his career has been pretty okay. Plus, I'm not convinced he'll stay on the field enough to accumulate

Biohazarddfl · 11-02-2023, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by whitmm

People are trying to say Kyle Schwarber is a HOF worthy because of his postseason numbers. Maybe it's not the WAR crowd that is delusional with their thinking.

The WS MVPs are nice, but you still have to have the regular season numbers. Sorry, but 11 games (the 2 WS MVPs) is not enough to get you in.

Schwarber has two WS MVPs?

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gododgersfan · 11-02-2023, 08:57 AM

Now he just needs to pile up some stats, like 2k hits and 400 HRs.

JRX · 11-02-2023, 08:57 AM

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Hall of Very Good for sure. I think there's too much recency bias in this thread IMHO. He's had one great year and a couple good years, but the rest of his career has been pretty okay. Plus, I'm not convinced he'll stay on the field enough to accumulate

If Scott Rolen and Todd Helton are and are going to be hall of famers, Seager will get in as long as he doesn't completely fall apart.

msink28 · 11-02-2023, 09:01 AM

He'll have two top-3 MVP finishes after this year, two World Series MVPs, and four All-Star appearances. Of course, if he flames out and is hurt half the time of his contract, he won't get in, but he has an eight-year contract, should be doable for him to get to, say, 300 HRs and 2000 hits which I think would do it.

whitmm · 11-02-2023, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

Schwarber has two WS MVPs?

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The point is that World Series MVPs alone don't make you worthy of the HOF.

Steve Pearce has one WS MVP, did he get any HOF votes?

Biohazarddfl · 11-02-2023, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by whitmm

The point is that World Series MVPs alone don't make you worthy of the HOF.

Steve Pearce has one WS MVP, did he get any HOF votes?

Two of them will.

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whitmm · 11-02-2023, 09:12 AM

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IDK man, there's literally a Dude in it for basically one hit. I mean Maz was good, but without that Game 7 HR he'd be like Ted K, Billy Pierce, etc. sitting in the "Hall of Very Good" and not the "Hall of Fame"

Maz also was a 10 time all-star and 8 time gold glover, and was selected by the Veterans Committee, but sure. He also had 3 game winning hits in that World Series. His OPS was in line with other defense first players already in the hall.

The home run was his signature moment, not the only reason he is in the hall.

jplarson · 11-02-2023, 09:16 AM

Anyone can rack up regular season numbers. Everyone has that chance. How many can say they've capture TWO WS MVPs? Most valuable player on the team that wins it all? HoF bound.

Seager > Baines

rats60 · 11-02-2023, 09:17 AM

He has a long ways to go. He has played 9 seasons and really isn't close to HOF yet. His OPS+ of 135 as a SS is really good, but his counting stats of 1019 hits and 543 RBIs are low because he has only 5 seasons of 100+ games. He is going to have to put up a really good back half of his career to do it. If his production declines in his early 30s, no.

JRX · 11-02-2023, 09:19 AM

And keep his political views private since that can negate postseason heroics.

Bunny Hop · 11-02-2023, 09:20 AM

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And keep his political views private since that can negate postseason heroics.

only if they're vile.

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11-02-2023, 08:23 AM	#1
oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50,380	Corey Seager: HOF bound? Any chance he ends up in the hall as a player (not a visitor)? Two WS MVPs, room for more with that team and manager, decent stats and counting. __________________ Truly riveting discussion: that’s what your wife/girlfriend/sheep said.

11-02-2023, 08:29 AM	#7
oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50,380	Too quick for the edit! I’m like Boo that way. __________________ Truly riveting discussion: that’s what your wife/girlfriend/sheep said.

11-02-2023, 08:26 AM	#2
itsbaytime Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 728	170 HRs and 32 War going into his age 30 season. I am sure he has a shot that is much greater than Schwarber. Injuries will probably dictate it for him.

11-02-2023, 08:27 AM	#3
fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 77,627	Add in ROY and 2 time All Star so far to his current accolades. He looks good with batting average, 32 WAR, and good doubles hitter. I'm going to say probably yes if he keeps doing what he's doing.

11-02-2023, 08:28 AM	#4
MiamiMarlinsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 13,539	What does his WAR say? Apparently that’s the only stat we’re allowed to consider these days. Putting that aside, I think if he can play at a top level into his late 30’s he’ll have a shot.

11-02-2023, 08:34 AM	#9
Biohazarddfl Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 2,294 chrisfl_cards_on_ig ChrisinFlorida	If you asked me to gamble on it, I'd be betting that he will. 2 WS MVP is a much bigger deal than the WAR crowd will ever admit. He also has a huge frame and I expect him to age well. He really just has to get to 60 WAR with the WS heroics. Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk

11-02-2023, 08:44 AM	#10
bankdawg Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: South Georgia Posts: 2,736 KryptonFanfare bankdawg	5 more years like the previous and he's in. If he plays until hes 40 and gets to 400 HRs he is first ballot.

11-02-2023, 08:53 AM	#12
msink28 Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,321	Yeah, he'll be inducted barring injury.

11-02-2023, 08:53 AM	#14
BigSlim16 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 4,332	Hall of Very Good for sure. I think there's too much recency bias in this thread IMHO. He's had one great year and a couple good years, but the rest of his career has been pretty okay. Plus, I'm not convinced he'll stay on the field enough to accumulate

11-02-2023, 08:57 AM	#16
gododgersfan Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 450 goarmynco	Now he just needs to pile up some stats, like 2k hits and 400 HRs.

11-02-2023, 09:01 AM	#18
msink28 Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,321	He'll have two top-3 MVP finishes after this year, two World Series MVPs, and four All-Star appearances. Of course, if he flames out and is hurt half the time of his contract, he won't get in, but he has an eight-year contract, should be doable for him to get to, say, 300 HRs and 2000 hits which I think would do it.

11-02-2023, 09:16 AM	#22
jplarson Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 15,578	Anyone can rack up regular season numbers. Everyone has that chance. How many can say they've capture TWO WS MVPs? Most valuable player on the team that wins it all? HoF bound. Seager > Baines

11-02-2023, 09:17 AM	#23
rats60 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9,965	He has a long ways to go. He has played 9 seasons and really isn't close to HOF yet. His OPS+ of 135 as a SS is really good, but his counting stats of 1019 hits and 543 RBIs are low because he has only 5 seasons of 100+ games. He is going to have to put up a really good back half of his career to do it. If his production declines in his early 30s, no.

11-02-2023, 09:19 AM	#24
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,677	And keep his political views private since that can negate postseason heroics.