7 month on an SGC submission?

[Artiodactyla]

Issue resolved. Delete.

[JoefromMO]

Unfortunately, it sounds like you were scammed by your LCS. No chance it’s been with SGC that long.

[TXRunner]

For a card that big, can’t be too many floating around. Did you check the pop report to see if it’s in there?

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by JoefromMO

Unfortunately, it sounds like you were scammed by your LCS. No chance it’s been with SGC that long.

That would be my guess. Or lost in transit. I would ask for some tracking verification. Looking at pop reports is a good idea as well. If it is numbered, you might be able to find it.

[dbodbodbo]

SGC has great customer service. I would reach out to them directly. Even a month with SGC would be too long.

[collective]

Please, stop using group submitters. Reach out to SGC, but you paid your LCS to submit on your behalf, they should be doing the legwork.

These group submitters receive bulk/dealer discounts that are below their advertised submission fee, so yes, you paid for the service.

[Artiodactyla]

Originally Posted by JoefromMO

Unfortunately, it sounds like you were scammed by your LCS. No chance it’s been with SGC that long.

I hope not; I've given them the benefit of the doubt for a long time now.

The card isn't on the POP report.

I emailed SGC today so I'll see what they say.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Artiodactyla

I hope not; I've given them the benefit of the doubt for a long time now.

The card isn't on the POP report.

I emailed SGC today so I'll see what they say.

SGC is literally the easiest and quickest company. Why anyone would trust someone else to send their cards......ugh

Sorry to hear about this. I've sent MANY direct submissions to SGC.

2 to 3 weeks tops is turnaround and sometimes less! NEVER more than 3 weeks total turnaround from shipping to opening them at my house.

Good luck!

[LondonGames]

Originally Posted by Artiodactyla

I hope not; I've given them the benefit of the doubt for a long time now.

The card isn't on the POP report.

I emailed SGC today so I'll see what they say.

Sadly I agree with the previous poster that it sounds like your LCS is scamming.

Quite alarming that you say they aren't responsive.

Doesn't even sound like you're using a LCS to be honest... as you could just go there and meet them face to face any time?

Wishing you the best.

Either way none of this makes any sense.

[rentz]

i've been noticing a trend of more shops and breakers doing group submissions for sgc which doesnt make much sense when they dont have membership requirements or minimum orders.

I hate to say but the others might be right about your LCS.
Happen to know anyone else who used them in this submission?

[LondonGames]

Originally Posted by rentz

i've been noticing a trend of more shops and breakers doing group submissions for sgc which doesnt make much sense when they dont have membership requirements or minimum orders.

I hate to say but the others might be right about your LCS.
Happen to know anyone else who used them in this submission?

Can't imagine sending in such a high dollar card with a group submitter. Not before verifying the liability they have... how they are insured...

It is no different than just a random person sending in items on your behalf. In the case of your item getting lost or damaged or mishandled you're at the mercy of someone else to be able make you whole. With the added risk of getting scammed.

That being said, I understand most people are novices in regards to cards and grading, and don't fault anyone for making a choice they feel works best for them. Especially if it requires a membership.

Really praying for the OP that this is just a simple mix up and nothing more than that. That isn't a small loss to incur. Scamming as a group submitter is the slimeist ever. Couldn't even imagine taking in someones card on their behalf, and not being responsive to that person. Especially on a nearly 10k card as it sounds.

[Sonnys88]

No way SGC has had a submission that long. They were completing most Bowman Chrome promotion submissions within a month (including shipping to and from).

You should ask to see proof that SGC has had the submission in their possession. They can easily show you email confirmations from SGC or their SGC dashboard showing the submission as received.

And hopefully you have some sort of receipt from the LCS stating that they took your cards for submission. If not, you may be out of luck if the cards are missing.

SGC may not respond to your inquiry as you are not the submitter / customer. They won't be able to give you info on other people's submissions.

[towerymt]

I don't know if SGC has approved submitters like PSA, but I would ask SGC if they have any agreement or relationship with that LCS.

https://www.gosgc.com/terms

24. If any items are being submitted on behalf of a third party, Customer represents and warrants that such third party has agreed and accepted this Agreement and has signed a duplicate copy hereof where indicated. Customer agrees to provide that third party signed copy to SGC at any time upon its request. SGC shall not be required to complete any work until Customer provides a copy of the executed third party Agreement.

I would consider the LCS as the customer and you as the third party.

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by Artiodactyla

Unfortunately, one of the cards submitted is probably a 4-5 figure card and I'm a bit concerned.

A card of that value might best be graded in person at whatever event should you have the ability to attend.

[rentz]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

A card of that value might best be graded in person at whatever event should you have the ability to attend.

does SGC do in person ? i've seen them at shows but its just drop off.
I know Beckett does in person same day grading.

[tmoore_25]

I too think that something doesn't add up here. You've been a member of blowout for about 13 years with over a thousand posts, which would indicate to me that you most likely know about grading and timeframes, etc. that comes along with it. Everybody knows SGC is the fastest with turnaround times at a month or less.

You chose to use a group submitter that is supposedly local to submit your four figure card and after 7 months, you are just concerned. What is the name of the LCS and where is it located at? I would be in there demanding proof of submission and proof that SGC still possesses the cards or threatening legal action. Someone is not telling the truth.

[Artiodactyla]

Originally Posted by tmoore_25

I too think that something doesn't add up here. You've been a member of blowout for about 13 years with over a thousand posts, which would indicate to me that you most likely know about grading and timeframes, etc. that comes along with it. Everybody knows SGC is the fastest with turnaround times at a month or less.

You chose to use a group submitter that is supposedly local to submit your four figure card and after 7 months, you are just concerned. What is the name of the LCS and where is it located at? I would be in there demanding proof of submission and proof that SGC still possesses the cards or threatening legal action. Someone is not telling the truth.

Thanks to everyone for the comments, I reached out to SGC directly and customer service states there are no outstanding submissions for the LCS that submitted the cards, and the specific high-dollar card that I was looking for hasn't been seen by SGC. I reached out to the store owner, and they insist that the grades are pending and they'll be calling SGC today. So, I'm not really sure how to proceed at the moment.

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by Artiodactyla

Thanks to everyone for the comments, I reached out to SGC directly and customer service states there are no outstanding submissions for the LCS that submitted the cards, and the specific high-dollar card that I was looking for hasn't been seen by SGC. I reached out to the store owner, and they insist that the grades are pending and they'll be calling SGC today. So, I'm not really sure how to proceed at the moment.

I would tend to side with SGC with both of these are the statements. SGC doesn't have any incentive to lie to you about a card coming through. If you LCS made a mistake willingly or not, they have the incentive to stall you out. Your LCS should be able to show you the card from the account in SGC if it really is pending. They can print out the submission listing and prove it.

[LondonGames]

Originally Posted by Artiodactyla

Thanks to everyone for the comments, I reached out to SGC directly and customer service states there are no outstanding submissions for the LCS that submitted the cards, and the specific high-dollar card that I was looking for hasn't been seen by SGC. I reached out to the store owner, and they insist that the grades are pending and they'll be calling SGC today. So, I'm not really sure how to proceed at the moment.

I think the way to proceed is pretty clear... You trust SGC and go to the LCS. You demand to see proof in person. The fact that you spoke to the store owner and didn't demand proof is rather alarming.

Is this a LCS, or just a card store? LCS stands for "local card store" and this is sounding more and more like something that isn't near you at all.

[Sonnys88]

Originally Posted by Artiodactyla

Thanks to everyone for the comments, I reached out to SGC directly and customer service states there are no outstanding submissions for the LCS that submitted the cards, and the specific high-dollar card that I was looking for hasn't been seen by SGC. I reached out to the store owner, and they insist that the grades are pending and they'll be calling SGC today. So, I'm not really sure how to proceed at the moment.

Might not be under the store name if they're not an authorized SGC group submitter.

But, at any rate your LCS can easily show proof of when they shipped to SGC, the confirmation email from SGC that they received it, and the pending order on their SGC dashboard.

It is very strange that they have not offered to show you any proof that SGC has the order. You'd think that would be the first and easiest thing to do to clear things up.

[glen87]

Originally Posted by Artiodactyla

Thanks to everyone for the comments, I reached out to SGC directly and customer service states there are no outstanding submissions for the LCS that submitted the cards, and the specific high-dollar card that I was looking for hasn't been seen by SGC. I reached out to the store owner, and they insist that the grades are pending and they'll be calling SGC today. So, I'm not really sure how to proceed at the moment.

at the moment you proceed by letting us know exactly what the card is.

you can get a lot of eyes from here looking for it.

[LondonGames]

Originally Posted by glen87

at the moment you proceed by letting us know exactly what the card is.

you can get a lot of eyes from here looking for it.

This ^

The more time you wait and let stories be fed to you, the closer your card is to being gone forever

Letting us know what card it is, is the bare minimum. Saying the name of the LCS wouldn't hurt either. You aren't outing them in any way at this point. But it could trigger an alert that could be helpful to you in the meantime.

But the way you are saying you "spoke to the owner" and "they said" etc etc isn't really adding up much and also seems that you are buying what they are feeding you. Not to mention, I'm not sure what speaking to the "owner" over someone else makes a difference. You purely speak to people who can give you information, being the owner or a clerk or whatever makes zero difference. If the owner is the person with the submission details and him only, just refer to that person as the submitter. It's much more concise language and easier to keep track.

But again, demand to get the proof from ANYONE at the LCS that has it.

[glen87]

Originally Posted by LondonGames

This ^

The more time you wait and let stories be fed to you, the closer your card is to being gone forever

Letting us know what card it is, is the bare minimum. Saying the name of the LCS wouldn't hurt either. You aren't outing them in any way at this point. But it could trigger an alert that could be helpful to you in the meantime.

But the way you are saying you "spoke to the owner" and "they said" etc etc isn't really adding up much and also seems that you are buying what they are feeding you. Not to mention, I'm not sure what speaking to the "owner" over someone else makes a difference. You purely speak to people who can give you information, being the owner or a clerk or whatever makes zero difference. If the owner is the person with the submission details and him only, just refer to that person as the submitter. It's much more concise language and easier to keep track.

But again, demand to get the proof from ANYONE at the LCS that has it.

time to play nice is over. you need to start naming names and giving details.

either the lcs is lying or sgc is lying, and money is on sgc not lying since they have the least to gain.

[oddstuff]

Your LCS may be piggybacking onto another bigger submitter so the card may be under a different submitter's name than your LCS. Good luck.

[glen87]

Originally Posted by Artiodactyla

Thanks to everyone for the comments, I reached out to SGC directly and customer service states there are no outstanding submissions for the LCS that submitted the cards, and the specific high-dollar card that I was looking for hasn't been seen by SGC. I reached out to the store owner, and they insist that the grades are pending and they'll be calling SGC today. So, I'm not really sure how to proceed at the moment.

Originally Posted by oddstuff

Your LCS may be piggybacking onto another bigger submitter so the card may be under a different submitter's name than your LCS. Good luck.

i thought that as well, but this part is contradictory to that.