Just how rare are the Home Field Advantage?

[4LifeSteelers]

Just for starters I like them and have almost complete set but got to thinking are they really that rare? Will they be compatible to the downtown cards? I am not the guy that looks at pack odds and works all that math but I am hoping that someone on here is. I just want honest feedback and thoughts? These have a shot at being valuable later down the road? There is also a Legendary version. The regular HTA has checklist of 10 and Legendary is 5.

[atomic619jd]

Home Field Advantage (10 card set) - 9,152 copies
Legendary HFA (5 card set) - 105 copies

edit - per ToppsProductionBB X

[atk825]

The modern day HFAs I think are case hits in a product where there's endless cases printed. They are condition sensitive, so in gem mint, they get a nice price. But I don't think they are anywhere near as sought after as Downtowns and it's hard to see anything but the biggest names or rookies being much more than like $20-25.

[4LifeSteelers]

I been out this card game for a while, Thanks for the info.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Trying to chase what will be valuable in the future will leave you feeling exhausted in the present and you’ll most likely end up with worthless stacks of cardboard in the future. I’m not saying that to be a bummer, I’m just recommending that you try to see what really interests you, and collect that. You’ll have more fun that way.

[atomic619jd]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Trying to chase what will be valuable in the future will leave you feeling exhausted in the present and you’ll most likely end up with worthless stacks of cardboard in the future. I’m not saying that to be a bummer, I’m just recommending that you try to see what really interests you, and collect that. You’ll have more fun that way.

This. However I will say they HFAs feel the most like the Kaboom or Color Blast or pick your panini case hit card when it comes to licensed Topps products. I can see these holding some value over the years and likely adding parallel versions similar to the gold and green Kabooms in the future.

[Bcr]

They are the nicest insert that Topps has made in a long while. While not super hard to hit, you can always chase the legendaries which are very short print. The design is better than last years as well. Topps nailed it with these IMO.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by Bcr

They are the nicest insert that Topps has made in a long while. While not super hard to hit, you can always chase the legendaries which are very short print. The design is better than last years as well. Topps nailed it with these IMO.

Yeah, I like the ‘24 HFA’s way more than the previous years.

[4LifeSteelers]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Trying to chase what will be valuable in the future will leave you feeling exhausted in the present and you’ll most likely end up with worthless stacks of cardboard in the future. I’m not saying that to be a bummer, I’m just recommending that you try to see what really interests you, and collect that. You’ll have more fun that way.

I do I meant would it be worth the prices of them now rather or that there not going to tank so to speak.

[4LifeSteelers]

Originally Posted by Bcr

They are the nicest insert that Topps has made in a long while. While not super hard to hit, you can always chase the legendaries which are very short print. The design is better than last years as well. Topps nailed it with these IMO.

Yeah I really like them a lot. I have darn near complete 1-10 think I am going chase the Legendary as well.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by 4LifeSteelers

I do I meant would it be worth the prices of them now rather or that there not going to tank so to speak.

I think you’ll see prices come down as more cases/boxes are ripped and more product hits eBay. Case hits are more medium-rare than rare.



(…and now I want a steak, dang it.)

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by 4LifeSteelers

Yeah I really like them a lot. I have darn near complete 1-10 think I am going chase the Legendary as well.

In case you weren't aware, they've been doing HFAs for a few years now. Each team gets an HFA card each year, 10 in Series 1, 10 in Series 2, and 10 in Update. So there will be another 20 cards to chase once you finish with the 10 in Series 1. Happy hunting!

[mrchipz]

Originally Posted by atomic619jd

Home Field Advantage (10 card set) - 9,152 copies
Legendary HFA (5 card set) - 105 copies

edit - per ToppsProductionBB X

Man this seems kinda high to me.
At least for the guy i collect.
Are the Rookie ones more sp?

The guy i collect has only 28 currently listed and 132 in sold listing on ebay and im sure some of those have sold multiple times.

Not saying they are super rare but for a card with a supposed print run of over 9,000+ to only see 160 total on ebay since the product came out is weird.

I know that ebay doesnt have all of them but still only 160 for sale and sold is very low for a card with a print run that high.

I wonder if the HFA's that are in products that many do not rip anymore or many did not rip much of will gain more value cause of the scarcity of them.
Could that be the case or are the Rookie Card HFA's just more short printed....

[4LifeSteelers]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

In case you weren't aware, they've been doing HFAs for a few years now. Each team gets an HFA card each year, 10 in Series 1, 10 in Series 2, and 10 in Update. So there will be another 20 cards to chase once you finish with the 10 in Series 1. Happy hunting!

I don't mind the chase. Thought this was the first year for these. Now I gotta back track some. Thanks for info.

[atk825]

Originally Posted by mrchipz

Man this seems kinda high to me.
At least for the guy i collect.
Are the Rookie ones more sp?

The guy i collect has only 28 currently listed and 132 in sold listing on ebay and im sure some of those have sold multiple times.

Not saying they are super rare but for a card with a supposed print run of over 9,000+ to only see 160 total on ebay since the product came out is weird.

I know that ebay doesnt have all of them but still only 160 for sale and sold is very low for a card with a print run that high.

I wonder if the HFA's that are in products that many do not rip anymore or many did not rip much of will gain more value cause of the scarcity of them.
Could that be the case or are the Rookie Card HFA's just more short printed....

Just given how often I have seen the Mookie Betts from 2022 Series 1, I would guess 9000 copies is about right. And it's a card raw that just has settled in the $20 range and hasn't really moved the whole time. And I still see them pop up basically all the time.

[4LifeSteelers]

I have went back found checklist for 22, 23 and that's all I have found. Is 22 the first year?

[zworykin]

Yes it was

[mrchipz]

Originally Posted by atk825

Just given how often I have seen the Mookie Betts from 2022 Series 1, I would guess 9000 copies is about right. And it's a card raw that just has settled in the $20 range and hasn't really moved the whole time. And I still see them pop up basically all the time.

There are currently 67 Betts HFA for sale on ebay and 63 sold in the last 3 months on ebay for a total of 130 that are currently for sale and sold since november.
That just doesnt scream to me like a card that has over 9,100 produced.

The card i was referring to in particular in my post was the Anthony Volpe Home field advantage from 2023 topps update.

There are currently only 28 listed of his and only 132 sold since November.

His 2023 Topps update gold border /2023 there are currently 29 for sale listed right now on ebay.

So a card Numbered out of /2023 currently has 29 for sale on ebay right now but a card with over 9,100 printed only has 28 currently listed for sale on ebay right now.

Doesnt make sense to me.

Im not saying they are super scarce and i believe the numbers from that person as he is reputable but to me something does not add up.
Just does not seem to me just looking at sales and what is listed that there are over 9,100+ of these cards. Maybe a few thousand is what the numbers tell.


Maybe there is just a ton of this product still sealed and way more still sealed then was ever opened and tons of these are still sitting in packs.
Who knows though.

[zworykin]

Those are the calculated print runs for 2024 Series 1. Not any other previous series. They weren't even in the pack odds in most of the previous series, as I recall, so there was no way to calculate them in the first place. I want to say they only showed up once or twice.

[4LifeSteelers]

Originally Posted by zworykin

Yes it was

Good looks like I got some work to do.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by mrchipz

There are currently 67 Betts HFA for sale on ebay and 63 sold in the last 3 months on ebay for a total of 130 that are currently for sale and sold since november.
That just doesnt scream to me like a card that has over 9,100 produced.

The card i was referring to in particular in my post was the Anthony Volpe Home field advantage from 2023 topps update.

There are currently only 28 listed of his and only 132 sold since November.

His 2023 Topps update gold border /2023 there are currently 29 for sale listed right now on ebay.

So a card Numbered out of /2023 currently has 29 for sale on ebay right now but a card with over 9,100 printed only has 28 currently listed for sale on ebay right now.

Doesnt make sense to me.

Im not saying they are super scarce and i believe the numbers from that person as he is reputable but to me something does not add up.
Just does not seem to me just looking at sales and what is listed that there are over 9,100+ of these cards. Maybe a few thousand is what the numbers tell.


Maybe there is just a ton of this product still sealed and way more still sealed then was ever opened and tons of these are still sitting in packs.
Who knows though.

Series 1 is printed to the moon -- cards trickle out over time.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by mrchipz

There are currently 67 Betts HFA for sale on ebay and 63 sold in the last 3 months on ebay for a total of 130 that are currently for sale and sold since november.
That just doesnt scream to me like a card that has over 9,100 produced.

The card i was referring to in particular in my post was the Anthony Volpe Home field advantage from 2023 topps update.

There are currently only 28 listed of his and only 132 sold since November.

His 2023 Topps update gold border /2023 there are currently 29 for sale listed right now on ebay.

So a card Numbered out of /2023 currently has 29 for sale on ebay right now but a card with over 9,100 printed only has 28 currently listed for sale on ebay right now.

Doesnt make sense to me.

Im not saying they are super scarce and i believe the numbers from that person as he is reputable but to me something does not add up.
Just does not seem to me just looking at sales and what is listed that there are over 9,100+ of these cards. Maybe a few thousand is what the numbers tell.


Maybe there is just a ton of this product still sealed and way more still sealed then was ever opened and tons of these are still sitting in packs.
Who knows though.

No one opened nearly the same amount of 2023 topps update as other releases, it was terrible. There is so much product from previous Series yet to be opened sitting collecting dust.

The 2022 Topps Chrome Julio super auto just got pulled two years after release.

[timmyX]

I’ve noticed the 24 HFAs seem to be going for way less than the 22/23s. I admittedly don’t really understand pack odds too well but is the assumption that the ones from the last few years are probably way more prevalent than originally expected or are they just printing way more of these this year? Was just trying to understand the prices since they seem much more reasonable than prior years.

Sadly I love the look of this years but I already have 22/23 in cases on the wall and the wife says no more

[Rbradleigh]

I’ve opened 3 maybe 4 Jumbos of 2022 update and one Hobby box. I’ve pulled one HFA, Kris Bryant.

I also really like the HFA insert so have picked up JRod Rookie, Witt, Carroll, Gorman, Acuña, Soto and Ohtani. Ohtani’s is a nice lil bonus as it has pics of him both pitching & hitting.
And now thinking of getting Seiya Suzuki

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[nowiamsad]

Originally Posted by mrchipz

Man this seems kinda high to me.
At least for the guy i collect.
Are the Rookie ones more sp?

The guy i collect has only 28 currently listed and 132 in sold listing on ebay and im sure some of those have sold multiple times.

Not saying they are super rare but for a card with a supposed print run of over 9,000+ to only see 160 total on ebay since the product came out is weird.

I know that ebay doesnt have all of them but still only 160 for sale and sold is very low for a card with a print run that high.

I wonder if the HFA's that are in products that many do not rip anymore or many did not rip much of will gain more value cause of the scarcity of them.
Could that be the case or are the Rookie Card HFA's just more short printed....

Follow some of the sub /100 serial cards from Topps 2024 and you will see that it's not far off. I can only think of a couple of the cards that I'm targeting where 5-6% of the run has been listed. Most are 2-3% and some haven't popped up at all.

A lot to learn from this thread about what rarity actually means in this hobby.