Aroldis Chapman A&G Autograph - No Grade?

Wisztradamous · 02-28-2024, 06:31 AM

What's up guys, does anyone know why PSA wouldn't grade this A&G Aroldis Chapman auto?

Thank you

Gkozsportscards · 02-28-2024, 08:41 AM

Was this inside one of the "framed" cards and maybe it was broken out of the frame? There are A&G cards with these "mini" cards framed inside the full size card if that makes sense.

Wisztradamous · 02-28-2024, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Gkozsportscards

Was this inside one of the "framed" cards and maybe it was broken out of the frame? There are A&G cards with these "mini" cards framed inside the full size card if that makes sense.

Thank you for the insight. However, I do not know the origin of the Chapman.

towerymt · 02-28-2024, 01:19 PM

Need more info. Did you submit it? Did you get a result from PSA? Was there a code or description? Was it generic and not helpful, like N9 NO GRADE DO NOT HOLDER?

Did you submit it under the dual service (card + auto authentication, with the option to have a number grade for one or both of the card / auto)?

Or did you submit it without auto authentication, so just asking for a card grade?

Good guess that PSA doesn't grade it if removed from the frame.

Found one BGS graded example out of the frame:

towerymt · 02-28-2024, 01:22 PM

https://ebay.com/itm/134921476769

Cert: https://www.psacard.com/cert/18505420

Links to this pop report: https://www.psacard.com/pop/baseball...tographs/99501

2011 Topps Allen & Ginter Autographs

Doesn't mention frame or no frame in the description of the card in the pop report, but it's on the label.

I'm no Ginter expert, just adding some data.

mjohnatgt · 02-28-2024, 06:08 PM

2011 Topps Allen & Ginter's - Framed Mini Autographs #AGA-AC - Aroldis Chapman
Courtesy of COMC.com

Yep, likely not graded because it's not in original pack-released format.

Wisztradamous · 02-28-2024, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

Need more info. Did you submit it? Did you get a result from PSA? Was there a code or description? Was it generic and not helpful, like N9 NO GRADE DO NOT HOLDER?

Did you submit it under the dual service (card + auto authentication, with the option to have a number grade for one or both of the card / auto)?

Or did you submit it without auto authentication, so just asking for a card grade?

Good guess that PSA doesn't grade it if removed from the frame.

Found one BGS graded example out of the frame:

It was just submitted under the January special as a normal grade. I didn’t get it back yet, so I am unsure what the non holder label says, but it should be back this week.

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Originally Posted by towerymt

https://ebay.com/itm/134921476769

Cert: https://www.psacard.com/cert/18505420

Links to this pop report: https://www.psacard.com/pop/baseball...tographs/99501

2011 Topps Allen & Ginter Autographs

Doesn't mention frame or no frame in the description of the card in the pop report, but it's on the label.

I'm no Ginter expert, just adding some data.

Thank you, it seems like it had a gram at some point.

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Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

2011 Topps Allen & Ginter's - Framed Mini Autographs #AGA-AC - Aroldis Chapman
Courtesy of COMC.com

Yep, likely not graded because it's not in original pack-released format.

Thank you for finding that, now it makes sene.. I guess. I don’t know why they still couldn’t just grade the mini.

Thanks everyone

dictoresno · 03-02-2024, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisztradamous

Thank you for finding that, now it makes sene.. I guess. I don’t know why they still couldn’t just grade the mini.

Thanks everyone

well, because half the card is missing and its now modified from its original factory frame.

honestly ive seen PSA grade framed cards before without their frames, but that's likely because the person submitted it as an incorrect similar auto from that set and PSA's research didn't catch it.

honestly I hate the frame and would want to remove it also.

Wisztradamous · 03-03-2024, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dictoresno

well, because half the card is missing and its now modified from its original factory frame.

honestly ive seen PSA grade framed cards before without their frames, but that's likely because the person submitted it as an incorrect similar auto from that set and PSA's research didn't catch it.

honestly I hate the frame and would want to remove it also.

Yeah, that pic the other guy provided is pretty horrendous. I like the mini card autograph; it's really clean.

Oh well, I just wanted it slabbed.

Thanks everyone

mjohnatgt · 03-03-2024, 02:20 PM

You can send it in for autograph authentication. Or you can buy one of the copies with frame for sale and then send that one in for grading.

Many of the ones they slab with no frame came that way. Most of the year, the only way to get a red auto /10 is that they are found in the rip cards.

02-28-2024, 06:31 AM	#1
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02-28-2024, 01:19 PM	#4
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,882	Need more info. Did you submit it? Did you get a result from PSA? Was there a code or description? Was it generic and not helpful, like N9 NO GRADE DO NOT HOLDER? Did you submit it under the dual service (card + auto authentication, with the option to have a number grade for one or both of the card / auto)? Or did you submit it without auto authentication, so just asking for a card grade? Good guess that PSA doesn't grade it if removed from the frame. Found one BGS graded example out of the frame: __________________ In search of... 2018 Topps Chrome Update Max Scherzer #HMT77: Superfractor 2019 Topps Update Carter Kieboom #US109: Platinum

02-28-2024, 08:41 AM	#2
Gkozsportscards Member Join Date: Apr 2023 Posts: 31	Was this inside one of the "framed" cards and maybe it was broken out of the frame? There are A&G cards with these "mini" cards framed inside the full size card if that makes sense.

02-28-2024, 01:22 PM	#5
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,882	https://ebay.com/itm/134921476769 Cert: https://www.psacard.com/cert/18505420 Links to this pop report: https://www.psacard.com/pop/baseball...tographs/99501 2011 Topps Allen & Ginter Autographs Doesn't mention frame or no frame in the description of the card in the pop report, but it's on the label. I'm no Ginter expert, just adding some data.

02-28-2024, 06:08 PM	#6
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,770 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	2011 Topps Allen & Ginter's - Framed Mini Autographs #AGA-AC - Aroldis Chapman Courtesy of COMC.com Yep, likely not graded because it's not in original pack-released format.

03-03-2024, 02:20 PM	#10
mjohnatgt Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Niceville, FL Posts: 14,770 mjohnatgt mjohnatgt	You can send it in for autograph authentication. Or you can buy one of the copies with frame for sale and then send that one in for grading. Many of the ones they slab with no frame came that way. Most of the year, the only way to get a red auto /10 is that they are found in the rip cards.