BGS or PSA

[Duncancollector]

Hi folks,

I just want to know when and why do you choose BGS or PSA for grading and no the other company. What are the hard facts?

Thanks

[rhigh2390]

BGS for me

1. Slabs are better
2. Subgrades
3. Card is sleeved inside holder (better protection)
4. No upcharges

[Duncancollector]

Thanks for your answer.

Is there a qualitiy difference in the grading between both? Forgot to ask this as well.

[asujbl]

PSA

BGS might as well fold at this point. They are irrelevant

If you just want a fatter slab than go for it… I actually hate how thick the slabs are… but I understand why others like them… but BGS is a joke at this point in 2024 if you want to actually retain value

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by asujbl

PSA

BGS might as well fold at this point. They are irrelevant

If you just want a fatter slab than go for it… I actually hate how thick the slabs are… but I understand why others like them… but BGS is a joke at this point in 2024 if you want to actually retain value

This ^^^

[bradjames12]

I'll give you an opinion and charge you much less than either....

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

BGS for me

1. Slabs are better
2. Subgrades
3. Card is sleeved inside holder (better protection)
4. No upcharges

Seconded for all that

PSA has the market share and popularity though. Or at leas the cult following. Every time I hear the reasons why people like PSA they say resale value.

I will say the asujbl reason given above is consistent from him. He’s a collector and doesn’t like the bigger slabs and doesn’t need the extra protection. But a lot of people like it.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

Seconded for all that

PSA has the market share and popularity though. Or at leas the cult following. Every time I hear the reasons why people like PSA they say resale value.

I will say the asujbl reason given above is consistent from him. He’s a collector and doesn’t like the bigger slabs and doesn’t need the extra protection. But a lot of people like it.

100%

And OP definitely needs to clarify what he wants out of this

If he just wants the better slab? BGS might win the vote even though I don’t like them

I totally get the rationale for all 4 reasons above. Also cheaper to slab if you just want the protection. It makes sense

But if his post is saying “I want to slab cards to sell down the road” then it’s PSA

That’s just reality

[Makakilo Cards]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

BGS for me

1. Slabs are better
2. Subgrades
3. Card is sleeved inside holder (better protection)
4. No upcharges

This is how I would feel if resale value didn't matter

[Duncancollector]

I am a pure collector. I just want to understand why PSA cards sell for more than BGS cards and a way to do it, is to listen to your point of views.

I like BGS more because of the subgrades and I think it is harder to get really good grades in comparison to BGS. This is what I observe. I don't care about thicker or thinner slabs.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Duncancollector

I am a pure collector. I just want to understand why PSA cards sell for more than BGS cards and a way to do it, is to listen to your point of views.

I like BGS more because of the subgrades and I think it is harder to get really good grades in comparison to BGS. This is what I observe. I don't care about thicker or thinner slabs.

it’s as simple as PSA has better brand power

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Duncancollector

I am a pure collector. I just want to understand why PSA cards sell for more than BGS cards and a way to do it, is to listen to your point of views.

I like BGS more because of the subgrades and I think it is harder to get really good grades in comparison to BGS. This is what I observe. I don't care about thicker or thinner slabs.

There are 25 years of posts in the grading forum

The simple fact is no one cares about BGS anymore outside of the 4 items listed above. It can be argued to death but PSA is light years ahead of everyone else for resale and it won’t change

Registry is a big one. Beckett being mismanaged into the ground is another

It’s not going to change

So pick the slab you like best or get on the PSA train if you ever want to sell (and yes I’m a collector not an investor… I’m also a realist)

[NBAicons]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

BGS for me

1. Slabs are better
2. Subgrades
3. Card is sleeved inside holder (better protection)
4. No upcharges

Well said. I'm another vote for BGS.

[Makakilo Cards]

I might add that basketball collectors, specifically 90s and early 00s collectors, are more accepting of BGS than other communities

[Duncancollector]

Originally Posted by asujbl

There are 25 years of posts in the grading forum

The simple fact is no one cares about BGS anymore outside of the 4 items listed above. It can be argued to death but PSA is light years ahead of everyone else for resale and it won’t change

Registry is a big one. Beckett being mismanaged into the ground is another

It’s not going to change

So pick the slab you like best or get on the PSA train if you ever want to sell (and yes I’m a collector not an investor… I’m also a realist)

I get the point.

So I guess resale for a reasonable price affects more modern cards like junk cards from panini than 90's or high end cards from 00's. Am I right?
I

[Duncancollector]

Originally Posted by Makakilo Cards

I might add that basketball collectors, specifically 90s and early 00s collectors, are more accepting of BGS than other communities

^^ this.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Makakilo Cards

I might add that basketball collectors, specifically 90s and early 00s collectors, are more accepting of BGS than other communities

What does this mean? I’d love to see some examples

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Duncancollector

I get the point.

So I guess resale for a reasonable price affects more modern cards like junk cards from panini than 90's or high end cards from 00's. Am I right?
I

I honestly don’t understand your question

PSA sells better across the board. Every single card

If you like BGS slabs better than buy them

For someone that’s started this thread you’re quickly showing your bias and you don’t want PSA to be the answer

So I’m out

[Duncancollector]

Originally Posted by asujbl

I honestly don’t understand your question

PSA sells better across the board. Every single card

If you like BGS slabs better than buy them

For someone that’s started this thread you’re quickly showing your bias and you don’t want PSA to be the answer

So I’m out

I have PSA cards too. This is not my point to be bias.

[Makakilo Cards]

Originally Posted by asujbl

What does this mean? I’d love to see some examples

It's pretty straightforward what it means. Feel free to disagree.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by Makakilo Cards

I might add that basketball collectors, specifically 90s and early 00s collectors, are more accepting of BGS than other communities

Thats because back then BGS was likely much more respected in the hobby. If collectors were submitting more cards to Beckett back then its logical to assume the pop disparity favors BGS. Prices would still favor PSA.

PSA started to distance itself from BGS about a decade ago. Maybe a little bit before then.

[JustRachel]

BGS is the past. PSA is the future.

Plenty of people enjoy the past, plenty want the future. Sales numbers tell us how many.

[Makakilo Cards]

Originally Posted by mc1

Thats because back then BGS was likely much more respected in the hobby. If collectors were submitting more cards to Beckett back then its logical to assume the pop disparity favors BGS. Prices would still favor PSA.

PSA started to distance itself from BGS about a decade ago. Maybe a little bit before then.

Not saying PSA doesn't sell for more. But if you have a BGS 8.5 that's from the 90s, someone will actually want it for a similar price to a PSA 8.

[6celtics33]

Originally Posted by Makakilo Cards

I might add that basketball collectors, specifically 90s and early 00s collectors, are more accepting of BGS than other communities

This is majority of my pc. I like bgs. A lot of the people I follow and have similar collections as me are the same minded. Again, I realize we are the minority. But we don’t believe they should close shop.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by Makakilo Cards

Not saying PSA doesn't sell for more. But if you have a BGS 8.5 that's from the 90s, someone will actually want it for a similar price to a PSA 8.

This might be somewhat true. Especially if it is a rarer insert, auto or jersey/patch. Ive had some 15-20 year old football cards in BGS slabs sell for decent amounts. There actually werent many in total in either PSA or BGS slabs.