anyone watch the chasing cardboard episodes?

[kobemagee29]

Just watched the most recent one and still can't figure it out. The guy who is selling his collection says he wants 24k for it. Ty says he agrees and put it at 24k-25k. Ty then says he will have 350 hrs into selling these cards so he needs to be at 50%. At the end they do the deal for $13,500. My issue is with the 350 hrs iswhere do you come up with this number and what does it have to do with buying?

[RKH916]

No idea where he comes up with the number but, as the old saying goes... time is money.

[Unblind]

Ty has sold over 61k cards on ebay. He has a good grip on how much time it takes to list cards. The 350 hours comes from the large amount of cards being purchased. Most sellers do not want to take the time to list. Time is money, and if you value your time, you should always factor that into huge purchases like this. Most off the sellers know the hassle and amount of time it takes to resell. That is why they call CC. Plus, in this market... most sellers are having a hard time selling, and the number of buyers is dwindling since the pandemic boom. That is where most of the sellers derived from. They bought too much in the boom, and have regrets.

[RAV2773]

50% is wild though

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[kobemagee29]

Originally Posted by Unblind

Ty has sold over 61k cards on ebay. He has a good grip on how much time it takes to list cards. The 350 hours comes from the large amount of cards being purchased. Most sellers do not want to take the time to list. Time is money, and if you value your time, you should always factor that into huge purchases like this. Most off the sellers know the hassle and amount of time it takes to resell. That is why they call CC. Plus, in this market... most sellers are having a hard time selling, and the number of buyers is dwindling since the pandemic boom. That is where most of the sellers derived from. They bought too much in the boom, and have regrets.

Sorry but I've been buying/ selling for 30+ years and I've never heard of anyone bringing up how many hrs it's going to take to sell what there buying. Has nothing to do with doing a deal. If your looking to buy cards, whether it's 10 or 500 is on you.

[RKH916]

Originally Posted by kobemagee29

Sorry but I've been buying/ selling for 30+ years and I've never heard of anyone bringing up how many hrs it's going to take to sell what there buying. Has nothing to do with doing a deal. If your looking to buy cards, whether it's 10 or 500 is on you.

If you ever go into real business, you'll be in for a rude shock.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Unblind

Ty has sold over 61k cards on ebay. He has a good grip on how much time it takes to list cards. The 350 hours comes from the large amount of cards being purchased. Most sellers do not want to take the time to list. Time is money, and if you value your time, you should always factor that into huge purchases like this. Most off the sellers know the hassle and amount of time it takes to resell. That is why they call CC. Plus, in this market... most sellers are having a hard time selling, and the number of buyers is dwindling since the pandemic boom. That is where most of the sellers derived from. They bought too much in the boom, and have regrets.

4 posts in 13 years. All about Chasing cardboard?

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[Duke1992]

Originally Posted by kobemagee29

Sorry but I've been buying/ selling for 30+ years and I've never heard of anyone bringing up how many hrs it's going to take to sell what there buying. Has nothing to do with doing a deal. If your looking to buy cards, whether it's 10 or 500 is on you.

You do understand how basic business works, right? He is looking to flip a large collection/volume. Its not like he's flipping a single card here. Sure, it seems like "wow, he's going to make $9,500! He took advantage of that seller!" But if his 350 hours is accurate and he profits $9,500 ....he stands to make about $30 an hour . Anyone who is involved in flipping collections factors in the hours it will take to move / sell the collection.

[RKH916]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

4 posts in 13 years. All about Chasing cardboard?

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lol, I think you found Ty.

[Unblind]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

4 posts in 13 years. All about Chasing cardboard?

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Ha. You’ve reminded why I don’t interact with this forum.

[Unblind]

Originally Posted by kobemagee29

Sorry but I've been buying/ selling for 30+ years and I've never heard of anyone bringing up how many hrs it's going to take to sell what there buying. Has nothing to do with doing a deal. If your looking to buy cards, whether it's 10 or 500 is on you.

Nothing wrong with a buyer being transparent and explaining his reasons for the offer. At the end of the day, the seller doesn’t have to accept. Often the seller knows the harsh reality of trying to sell his own cards individually. That is why buying bulk is cheaper.

[kobemagee29]

Originally Posted by Unblind

Nothing wrong with a buyer being transparent and explaining his reasons for the offer. At the end of the day, the seller doesn’t have to accept. Often the seller knows the harsh reality of trying to sell his own cards individually. That is why buying bulk is cheaper.

How many people would buy collections for 50% off, guessing maybe what 99% of us

[redauto5]

Originally Posted by kobemagee29

How many people would buy collections for 50% off, guessing maybe what 99% of us

I'm not buying a collection at 50% if it's all $5 and less cards. Time to list, cost to ship, ebay fees, no thank you. It all depends on the inventory purchased, my man. You wanna buy 1k of my $5 cards for $2,500? Let's set that up, DM me.

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[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Unblind

Ha. You’ve reminded why I don’t interact with this forum.

Ha, do us a favour and log off then.

You've added so much this past decade.

[RKH916]

Originally Posted by redauto5

I'm not buying a collection at 50% if it's all $5 and less cards. Time to list, cost to ship, ebay fees, no thank you. It all depends on the inventory purchased, my man. You wanna buy 1k of my $5 cards for $2,500? Let's set that up, DM me.

lol, this.

[kingofsnake]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

4 posts in 13 years. All about Chasing cardboard?

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For real. This guy stinks.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by kobemagee29

How many people would buy collections for 50% off, guessing maybe what 99% of us

Depends on what it is and the volume. Era and players make a big impact.

Originally Posted by redauto5

I'm not buying a collection at 50% if it's all $5 and less cards. Time to list, cost to ship, ebay fees, no thank you. It all depends on the inventory purchased, my man. You wanna buy 1k of my $5 cards for $2,500? Let's set that up, DM me.

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Same as above, depends on what it is and your strategy. A vintage collector that's selling 50's and early 60s common cards for $5 that look pack fresh is getting a higher percentage than someone selling $5 modern inserts from sets pulled this year. To the latter point, for modern inserts it's wise to pay a higher percentage for Ohtani Dodgers inserts than say Trout.

[Scottish Punk]

He's is making a TV show as well. I assume all the negotiations and money were agreed to well in advance. I stopped watching after the first handful of episodes. It is all way to prestaged and choregraphed for me. Some may like the antique roadshow, pawn stars type stuff but it just isn't for me. Seeing some collections is cool, but there isn't enough of that, imo.

[Promethius88]

Originally Posted by redauto5

I'm not buying a collection at 50% if it's all $5 and less cards. Time to list, cost to ship, ebay fees, no thank you. It all depends on the inventory purchased, my man. You wanna buy 1k of my $5 cards for $2,500? Let's set that up, DM me.

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Sure, if they are all $5 cards and not cards you "value" at $5 but may only sell for $1-2. If I can sell 50 $5 cards a day and double my money before fees, that's a great deal and doesn't take that much time to list then ship and package. Up that to 100 cards a day and that turns into really decent money.

[kobemagee29]

Originally Posted by Promethius88

Sure, if they are all $5 cards and not cards you "value" at $5 but may only sell for $1-2. If I can sell 50 $5 cards a day and double my money before fees, that's a great deal and doesn't take that much time to list then ship and package. Up that to 100 cards a day and that turns into really decent money.

I'd say the average card was $5

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by redauto5

I'm not buying a collection at 50% if it's all $5 and less cards. Time to list, cost to ship, ebay fees, no thank you. It all depends on the inventory purchased, my man. You wanna buy 1k of my $5 cards for $2,500? Let's set that up, DM me.

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Neither will I, even if it's an average of $5.

Originally Posted by Promethius88

Sure, if they are all $5 cards and not cards you "value" at $5 but may only sell for $1-2. If I can sell 50 $5 cards a day and double my money before fees, that's a great deal and doesn't take that much time to list then ship and package. Up that to 100 cards a day and that turns into really decent money.

So selling 100 cards per day, that'll be $250 profit before fees, after, say 20% fees, you'll make $150 a day, while dealing with lost packages, chargebacks, fake cards, incorrect estimates, and daily changes in card values?

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

He's is making a TV show as well. I assume all the negotiations and money were agreed to well in advance. I stopped watching after the first handful of episodes. It is all way to prestaged and choregraphed for me. Some may like the antique roadshow, pawn stars type stuff but it just isn't for me. Seeing some collections is cool, but there isn't enough of that, imo.

It's not a TV show, but are you sure it's fully staged like Pawn Stars? He seems to be sprinkling in many non-collection buying episodes cause of the difficulty in finding enough sellers for his show. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if some of the collection buying is staged, cause the most entertaining part of the collection buying episodes are about the sellers talking about their history with the hobby and certain cards, not the transaction itself.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

He's is making a TV show as well. I assume all the negotiations and money were agreed to well in advance. I stopped watching after the first handful of episodes. It is all way to prestaged and choregraphed for me. Some may like the antique roadshow, pawn stars type stuff but it just isn't for me. Seeing some collections is cool, but there isn't enough of that, imo.

I dont know, there was that one who literally had literally tears streaming down his face as he accepted 63k for a collection he valued at $110k or whatever.

One assumes though that sellers also cherry pick what they sell. It works both ways.

The show would bear a repeat watch if they did get into the nitty gritty of how they are valuing which cards and why. At least a few examples with every lot.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by kobemagee29

Sorry but I've been buying/ selling for 30+ years and I've never heard of anyone bringing up how many hrs it's going to take to sell what there buying. Has nothing to do with doing a deal. If your looking to buy cards, whether it's 10 or 500 is on you.

Uhhh… it’s called running a business. Even if your time is free, that doesn’t mean someone else who sells cards for a living doesn’t want to get paid for their work

[mutigers77]

What's up guys. This is Ty (from CC)...took me awhile to figure out my log-in again. Sorry.

Let me say 3 things.

1. Love the hobby, been in it essentially my entire life...been in/out of this forum for many of those years. The show was formed out of excitement for the hobby and telling the stories within it....

2. I'm a collector...but have been a reseller for many years. I look at collections through the lens of reselling...and profit. Time is the biggest enemy of profit, especially of larger collection purchases. Anyone who's been around the block understands the importance of valuing their time. It's probably the single biggest reason most 'sellers' want to sell.... it's because they either don't have the time or capacity to do all of the work it requires.

3. These episodes are NOT staged. Never have been...never will be. The only component that is ever "staged" is the initial knock on the door. We have to go get a microphone and a camera inside the sellers house, so every so often I meet the seller a few minutes before I open the door.

After that door opens, it's all recorded without ANY of it being staged. Real reactions, real moments, and real negotiations. This is what makes the show so fun to record...and why we've been able to record 60+ episodes. It's not fake.

Anyways... appreciate any of you that watch the show. We put a lot of effort into doing it right, and while some of your may disagree with certain things we do (which is fine)... ultimately I'm confident our show has been a positive influence on the hobby.

Take care!

Ty

[Unblind]

This is Matt from Unblind, one of the producers of the show with Ty.

The show is definitely not staged. But as the guy who films and edits, I can say that there is a lot of moments and conversations that don’t make it into the episodes final edit. The goal is to keep the episodes 20 to 40 minutes long. So sometimes I edit the episodes so they flow smoother.

We do vet the collectors that we visit. But we only have to do that so we’re not wasting our money traveling somewhere to buy junk wax. In those conversations with the collectors, often, I am the only one talking to them in order for the surprise to be on Ty. But there are also times that Ty jumps in on those conversations.

At the end of the day, we’re doing our best to grind out some great Hobby content for everyone. We understand that everyone doesn’t like our show, and we’re OK with that.

We spent thousands of dollars just to produce one episode. From car rentals, flights, gas, food, lodging, and extra hired film crew… it adds up. We are not able to pay for an episode just by YouTube revenue. We have to make money on deals and hunt down sponsorships.

If anyone on this thread has a YouTube show, or podcast, we are always welcome to come on and hang out and chat. Heck, we even think it would be fun to bring one of you guys on a road trips with us!

I love the interaction, keep chasing.